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Locutis_NJG88
08-27-2005, 06:24 PM
I have never posted about the defeat of the many skilled and honorable pilots in this game in such an unsporting, unkind and potentially inflammable way. I almost feel bad...(ok I'm over it) Here it goes....

I decided to take a quick flight over to the enemy base we had recently attacked with devastating accuracy, relentless tenacity and lots of laughs too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I had the base in sight when I looked to my 4 o€clock and realized I had attracted something rare, Hristo in his clown cart (no offence to the other skilled Dora Pilots you rock guys)was tracking me. This is rare because Hristo has never actually been seen engaging a fight. Usually Hristo is seen dropping down from an alt advantage of 6,000 meters to drop a couple rounds and then run away to his AA. (This is how he managed the nick name Yellow tail on the red side) This time was different. We had already killed his AA so he had nothing accept his skills to keep him alive. On my first pass with Hristo in tow I identified anHE-111 on landing approach. I felt bad looking at the enemy planes signaling with their lights to clear the way...I too wanted to communicate so I signaled back to them (LOL) After the HE-111 turned right off the runway I dropped 4 37 mm shells into the cockpit for good measure. Ragnar my friend, I'm sorry, war is hell. I hope I didn€t cost you too many points. Nice landing though. Anyways, Hristo was slowly trying to "sneak" up on me so I lead him right over the water away from anyone who could help him out. "Come closer" I said under my breath "please let this be yellow tail" I whispered and when I felt like he was close enough I pulled a secret maneuver that I knew would make him follow and bleed off his speed. Chopping throttle and hitting combats I pulled up and performed an immelman , over and up to the right. I learned that move when I was 8 and Hristo followed me up like a lamb to the slaughter. Remember HE is on my 6 and no one else is with us. Hristo in a Dora at 500 meters and probably 300K was obviously out of his yellow tailed mind cause I quickly had turned inside his plane and sprayed him with 303's, saving my 37€ for just the right moment. He pulled his typical overshoot maneuver and I stayed with him continuing to spray when he cross my sights. About every third turn Hristo would fall into a spin and spray bullets in a circle. It reminded me of quake that move... Anyways in a few more short turns Hristo was beside himself and just as I was coming around to shoot his silly S#*T talking **** out of existence he flew into the deck. I cursed myself for not recording this. I radioed to my team members about maneuver killing Hristo and they all cheered hooted and offered to buy me a round at the Officers club. At that point I was going to disconnect so I could go over to the blue coms and say to Hristo€¦€heeeeeeeeey I kirred you€ like he always does when he runs away like a girl and his AA shoots me up but I could hear another Pilot on my 6 and since I knew ANYONE else had 10 times more class I decided to stay and fight to the end with him. We were back over their base again and on my way out I saw one 109 starting his engine guess who that was????? Hristo took a 37 MM to the head and his plane went up like a gas soaked rag. Thank you Hristo oh and by the way €œ I kirrred you€ twice.

To the blue pilots who down me with skill, respect and honor I salute you. Chivas, Kananboot, Vonhide, Heinzbar you guys kill me and or stay and fight like warriors and I respect you for it. Hristo you could learn from your comrads in arms.

Locutis

John_Wayne_
08-27-2005, 06:34 PM
Hell,I just gotta bump this one!

Kuna15
08-27-2005, 06:39 PM
Nice story. BTW what airplane did you flew against Hristo's Dora? P-39N?

fordfan25
08-27-2005, 07:13 PM
i killed crazyivan one time ..... to bad we wre on the same team http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif .

Locutis_NJG88
08-27-2005, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Kuna15:
Nice story. BTW what airplane did you flew against Hristo's Dora? P-39N?
I was flying the P-63 HOnestly If I was in a P-39 there would likely have been two outcomes.

1) Hristo would have sprayed me and ran away before I hit the base or
2) During the turn fight I would have been able to get more rounds off on MR Yellow tail cause the 39 rocks!!!

Kuna15
08-27-2005, 09:39 PM
I asked because only earlier P-39s were fitted with .303s. P-39Qs and P-63 are iirc fitted only with .50cal machine gun type.

So that was kinda weird because I figured that would be extremely unfair fight P-39N vs. FW-190D.

P-39 is oftenly underestimated aircraft. I have seen many Bf-109 flyers that are tnbing with me but that last very shortly.
And once the player becomes used to M4 cannon (37mm), it is very rewarding plane.

ElAurens
08-27-2005, 09:59 PM
Good story and good kill sir!

One minor correction, the wing guns on a P39N are not .303 British calibre, but rather .30-06 Springfield. They have about 200 to 300fps greater muzzle velocity.

S!

spitzfiya
08-27-2005, 10:50 PM
What server?

NonWonderDog
08-27-2005, 11:35 PM
Bah, the P-63 is obviously overmodelled.

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http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Good job!

Badsight.
08-28-2005, 01:40 AM
gay thread

nice way to bring what happens in the DF room outwards

warclouds has a forum for circle jerking , i suggest you & hristo get a room together over there

btw , bragging about what you do in the P-63 , talk about an overmoddeled plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif your a riot

neural_dream
08-28-2005, 05:45 AM
No need to comment on that thread.


Originally posted by John_Wayne_:
Hell,I just gotta bump this one!

hehehe smarta$$ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SeaFireLIV
08-28-2005, 06:41 AM
Normally I would not support such threads, but Hristo-Goering asked for it the day he posted `Congratulations to the Blue Heroes on Warclouds`. It was coming to him.

Good kill, Locutis_NJG88, good kill.

BSS_CUDA
08-28-2005, 07:52 AM
DANG IT!!! OF ALL THE DAYS I HAD TO WORK!!!

good job Locutis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I hope to hear more war stories of this nature. didnt Disney make a movie about Hristo? I think they called it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Old Yeller

Diablo310th
08-28-2005, 10:23 AM
LOL Cuda....dang it all...see waht I ahve been missing since my computer went down???

Locutis_NJG88
08-28-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Good story and good kill sir!

One minor correction, the wing guns on a P39N are not .303 British calibre, but rather .30-06 Springfield. They have about 200 to 300fps greater muzzle velocity.

S!


Thank you for the correction. I really would love to learn more about that aircraft I really enjoy flying it in fact the whole p-39 /63 variants are tons of fun.

pourshot
08-29-2005, 01:10 AM
Good one Locutis, I got a giggle from that story http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BSS_CUDA
08-31-2005, 08:47 AM
ROFL turns out Old Yellers been banned from WarClouds, seems he'd log into TS with 2 aliases and sit on red comms and listen in so he could get the jump the Red pilots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Old Yeller (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/4141001153) read down a little and you'll start to understand, in most books thats called being a LOSER among other definitions

SlickStick
08-31-2005, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
ROFL turns out Old Yellers been banned from WarClouds, seems he'd log into TS with 2 aliases and sit on red comms and listen in so he could get the jump the Red pilots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Old Yeller (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/4141001153) read down a little and you'll start to understand, in most books thats called being a LOSER among other definitions

Will await confirmation from WC admins before I wet my pants laughing so hard, but...

A. It doesn't surprise me.

B. There are far more shenanigans going on with the supposed "Aces" over there than you can shake a stick at. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Locutis_NJG88
08-31-2005, 10:18 AM
Confirmed Hristo, the self promoted ACE used red coms to find his targets. It makes a lot of sense now that he had no ability to fly once he was caught by me as exemplified in the first story of this thread. The guy has no skill. Every time I chased his yellow tailed Dora back to his AA he flew worse than my 8 year old then bragged that he got the kill when the log shows his aa or other blues actually did the work.

Hristo, your ego and your lack of social remorse for cheating in the community you took part in for so long is only a sign of your lack of morals but it's a sign of a potential Sociopath.

neural_dream
08-31-2005, 10:46 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif lol, Hristo became a celeb. Even "cheat scandals" with his name. What next? A cover story with Locutis and Hristo kissing each other somewhere in Ibiza and a title saying "Pathetic thread just a publicity stunt to make both known (see inside, article by John Wayne)" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Jumoschwanz
08-31-2005, 10:52 AM
I don't know anything about anyone's personal quarrels.

But historically, and in this sim, a GOOD and SUCCESSFUL pilot, not to mention one who is ALIVE, will use an altitude advantage every chance he gets to attack with.

Also historically, any pilot who got into hot water would run for home every-time. All the great WWII books, like Johnson's Thunderbolt, or Johnson's Wing Leader, among others, is chock full of pilots who either by thier own or their commanders discretion, dove away and ran for home, so they could save their plane and life for another day and better position.

Also historically, there was not an airforce since the inception of radio that did not use the enemies frequencies to help gain an edge. You can also read many accounts of this in all the most famous books from WWII.

I applaud any use of tactics that were succesful in WWII and are applied to this sim to make it more realistic.

There are many social norms that have sprung up around online combat flight sim servers that have nothing to do with the way things actually were in WWII. Those who can do nothing but "turn-fight, when shot down by those using energy tactics whine like little girls. The cry of "vulching" is ridiculous, as it was in WWII, there is no tougher mission than to fly to an enemies airbase, face enemy aircraft and aaa while you are on the deck, and get home alive.

WWII airforces even used enemy planes and insignias to sneak into the foes territory and wreak havoc. Maybe we can grow up and take insignia requirments out of server rules?

Pilot losses from friendly fire, both from aircraft and aaa was high in WWII, so don't sweat it if you shoot someone on your team, especially if you are on a real server with no icons. No, in WWII there were no icons!

There is something stupid and petty about this thread. You don't get a good feeling reading it, it brings out the worst the community has to offer doesn't it?

Jumoswchwanz

neural_dream
08-31-2005, 10:54 AM
what he said http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

John_Wayne_
08-31-2005, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by neural_dream:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif lol, Hristo became a celeb. Even "cheat scandals" with his name. What next? A cover story with Locutis and Hristo kissing each other somewhere in Ibiza and a title saying "Pathetic thread just a publicity stunt to make both known (see inside, article by John Wayne)" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LMAO

BSS_Goat
08-31-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
Also historically, there was not an airforce since the inception of radio that did not use the enemies frequencies to help gain an edge.
I applaud any use of tactics that were succesful in WWII and are applied to this sim to make it more realistic.

Jumoswchwanz

The hit and run tactic is valid, but how can anyone justify cheating by using the TS of the other team? It's not historical when you can read the address off the briefing page.

lowfighter
08-31-2005, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:

There is something stupid and petty about this thread. You don't get a good feeling reading it, it brings out the worst the community has to offer doesn't it?

Jumoswchwanz

I agree BUT this thread is a reaction to another stupid thread originated by hristo. It stirred some feelings... Moreover here not all people play this game for getting the feeling of how it was in reality, are you a little arrogant against people who play it like a sport competition, or whatever? I play it for immersion in the wwii airwar atmosphere but it doesn't bother me much about other 'visions' of il2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

neural_dream
08-31-2005, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
It's not historical when you can read the address off the briefing page.
So, it must have been used a lot and by many http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

Hoarmurath
08-31-2005, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:

There is something stupid and petty about this thread. You don't get a good feeling reading it, it brings out the worst the community has to offer doesn't it?


Warclouds is where belong the worst of the community.

neural_dream
08-31-2005, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Hoarmurath:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:

There is something stupid and petty about this thread. You don't get a good <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">feeling</span> reading it, it brings out the worst the community has to offer doesn't it?


Warclouds is where belong the worst of the community. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You know that doesn't really improve that feeling. Don't you?

BSS_Goat
08-31-2005, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by neural_dream:
So, it must have been used a lot and by many http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.


Yeah, if they cheat.....

Hoarmurath
08-31-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by neural_dream:
You know that doesn't really improve that feeling. Don't you?

Let face it, all whining threads are full of warclouds references. And full of warclouds users.

LeadSpitter_
09-01-2005, 01:25 AM
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WOLFMondo
09-01-2005, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jumoschwanz:
Also historically, there was not an airforce since the inception of radio that did not use the enemies frequencies to help gain an edge.
I applaud any use of tactics that were succesful in WWII and are applied to this sim to make it more realistic.

Jumoswchwanz

The hit and run tactic is valid, but how can anyone justify cheating by using the TS of the other team? It's not historical when you can read the address off the briefing page. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Luftwaffe didn't sit there listning to fighter commands intranet between C&C, radar, obeserver and fighter stations working out exactly where the RAF would be, at what height and how many. Cause they couldn't.

Basically I hate to say it but hristo was cheating.

ElAurens
09-01-2005, 05:14 AM
Why am I not shocked to learn of this?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

BigKahuna_GS
09-01-2005, 05:48 AM
S!

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SeaFireLIV Posted Sun August 28 2005 05:41
Normally I would not support such threads, but Hristo-Goering asked for it the day he posted `Congratulations to the Blue Heroes on Warclouds`. It was coming to him.

Good kill, Locutis_NJG88, good kill.
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Rgr that !

The only thing that would of been better Locutis, you had been flying a P38L Late http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



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BSS_CUDA Posted Wed August 31 2005 07:47
ROFL turns out Old Yellers been banned from WarClouds, seems he'd log into TS with 2 aliases and sit on red comms and listen in so he could get the jump the Red pilots.

Old Yeller read down a little and you'll start to understand, in most books thats called being a LOSER among other definitions

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BSS_CUDA
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Wow after all the trash talk and chest thumping by Hristo, talk about having to EAT CROW, HUMBLE PIE -the Whole Pie, Foot in Mouth--the Whole Foot !

But it looks more like Hristo got a foot in a _ _ and out the door.


Main Entry: cheat
Part of Speech: noun 2
Definition: trick
Synonyms: artifice, baloney, bamboozlement, banana oil, bunco, chicanery, con, con game, cover up, cozening, deceit, deception, dirty pool, dirty trick, dodge, double-dealing, fake, fast one, fast shuffle, fix, flimflam, frame, fraud, gyp, hanky-panky, hoax, hoaxing, hogwash, hokum, humbug, hustle, imposture, jazz, jive, plant, put-on, racket, rip-off, run around, sell, shady deal, sham, shell game, skin game, snow job, spoof, sting, stunt, swindle, total shuck, trickery, whitewash


pick one or all



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Locutis_NJG88
09-01-2005, 09:00 AM
I think I would like to clarify a few things to those who have commented on this thread and the nature of the players at warclouds.

1) This was a warclouds scenario. I posted the situation here in a more public forum because Hristo was noted for completely altering the facts on almost every air to air exchange touting his superior skills when in fact 95% of the time his AA did all the work. I have never engaged in this forum before but I was just sick of Hristo dropping on to blue coms saying how he killed someone or me when all he ever typically got was 2 rounds before he ran off. That might be tacitly relevant from WWII but it€s a far cry from a skilled attack. So after months of Hristo talking trash on our coms I posted the 2 kill experience. It wasn't meant to do anything accept give anyone with a distaste for Hristo a laugh at his expense. Hoarmurath and Neutral dream, you guys seems to have a lot to say about warclouds players considering I NEVER see you on that server.... (If you have alternate nicks let me know who you are please) note none of us at warclouds are ****ging the rest of the players here.

2) Hristo was very proud of his stats on the server. He cheated to get those stats. His view was basically if the game offeres an avenue for a potential advantage or exploit then it should be taken....so tactically speaking on those terms then it would be perfectly acceptable to cause lag spikes to potentially force a player into the deck. Let€s face it the game offers that potential by pressing print screen. Or maybe we should be setting up attacks on the IP of our opponents to cause packet drops thereby simulating sabotaging their machinery in the game....That would ruin a great simulator wouldn't it? Hristo's actions were calculated and without any honor in a server that values the rules. That€s why he is and always will be an outcast.

To the rest of you who spent the energy to **** Warclouds I say come and join the fight and have some fun. I fly most of the servers and I find warclouds has the best emersion thats why I fly it.

HayateAce
09-01-2005, 11:28 AM
Great stuff Locutis.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Seems my sig needs some editing to include this cheater routine. This one's fo you ~risto:

http://www.dpent.ca/Images/airplane%20300.gif

neural_dream
09-01-2005, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Locutis_NJG88:
... Neural dream, you guys seems to have a lot to say about warclouds players considering I NEVER see you on that server.... (If you have alternate nicks let me know who you are please)
i don't remember saying anything about warclouds. Rephrase plz.

As for the whole topic, i think you should apologise. If you think that hristo acts dishonorably then don't commit the same sin and you will be respected http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BSS_CUDA
09-01-2005, 03:23 PM
normally I would agree with you about this kind of thread, but seeing as how Hristo has consistantly gone out of his way to slap at red pilots specifically those that fly Warclouds, and now having been caught and convicted as a cheater he is getting what he deserves. its good to that with really only 1 exception the Blue's are not coming to his defense

neural_dream
09-01-2005, 04:52 PM
lol, i hope u don't mean me as either blue or supporter of Hristo's. lol
it seems that the guy has outraged quite a few people in here. Still, good manners is irrelevant to others' attitude, and what i like in this game is that it has well-behaving people. Let's not spoil that.

BSS_CUDA
09-01-2005, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by neural_dream:
lol, i hope u don't mean me as either blue or supporter of Hristo's. lol

NOPE http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

John_Wayne_
09-01-2005, 06:07 PM
Well we've all had some fun here, but it might be time to move on. Like you-know-who-stro, this whole thread has beome a bad advertisment for this comunity.

Aw, what the hell - just one more before I saddle up and ride off into the sunset
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/Last_Laugh_sml.jpg

Help yourselves if you want a new sig. My work here is done. Adios amigos!

BSS_Goat
09-02-2005, 06:07 AM
LOL, see ya pilgrim.