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Belemrys
12-20-2008, 10:08 PM
And I bought a Saitek Aviator as I heard it was a good starter stick (till i can afford a HOTAS)...now I am having problems deciding what MUST be keybinded to it and how should i do it, with the Saitek program or in game...anyone have a link to an effective binding scheme for the Aviator? I plan to mostly dogfight than Bomb...and would like avoid using the Keyboard as much as possible! Thanks!

crucislancer
12-21-2008, 07:47 AM
Welcome! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I don't have any experience with the Aviator stick, but it's really up to you how you want to program it. If you want to do any advanced macros, for instance a single button for communicating with your AI wingman, then you should use the Saitek software.

What should you have programed? That's entirely up to you. I suggest at least the following:

Machine Guns
Cannons
Rockets
Bombs
view (on the hat switch on the top of the stick)
Throttle

Everything else is up to you. You can also switch around keyboard assignments in game, in order to make things a bit more comfortable. With the Aviator, you don't have a lot of buttons to work with, but the game is quite playable with it.

SlyBelle
12-21-2008, 08:05 AM
Quick question. Does the profile you setup via the Saitek software take precendence over anything you have setup for the joystick within the game? I'm just wondering how conflicts don't happen if you setup things differently within the game versus the controller software.

Belemrys
12-21-2008, 08:14 AM
usually the game will just recognize multiple commands...so ur macro will be hitting lots of different "keys"

i am having a hell of a time with getting off the ground as i have never played a flight sim...and when i play from the air already it is really hard to trim properly so i will have to use joycontrol...anyone have good settings for joycontrol with an Aviator?

SlyBelle
12-21-2008, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Belemrys:
usually the game will just recognize multiple commands...so ur macro will be hitting lots of different "keys"

i am having a hell of a time with getting off the ground as i have never played a flight sim...and when i play from the air already it is really hard to trim properly so i will have to use joycontrol...anyone have good settings for joycontrol with an Aviator?

You and me both. I'm new as well so I'm finding it hard to stabilize the aircraft as well....sure does give me an appreciation on what real life pilots had to dohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

crucislancer
12-21-2008, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by SlyBelle:
Quick question. Does the profile you setup via the Saitek software take precendence over anything you have setup for the joystick within the game? I'm just wondering how conflicts don't happen if you setup things differently within the game versus the controller software.

AFAIK, There wouldn't be a conflict per se, you might have two functions happening at the same time. I never tried it, though.

The saitek software uses key presses, so when you program something using the software it needs to be like that in the game. For instance, if "WEP" is the key W in the game, then you would use that key when you use the saitek software to assign that function to a button or switch. It get's pretty crazy when you have something like the X52, but it's worth it.

crucislancer
12-21-2008, 08:30 AM
While it's a good idea to use JoyControl to get you joystick set up properly, you also need to make sure that you use trim effectively in game.

If you guys are having trouble with trim, I suggest putting the trim controls on the arrow keys without any need to hold down shift or control. Trim is really important in this game, and at the very least have elevator trim and rudder trim on the arrow keys.

Belemrys
12-21-2008, 08:35 AM
I have trim set up on one of my buttons and the hat switch...i found someone's set up for the Aviator joystick and thats what they suggested...if i could i would rather never have to use the keyboard unless its landing and taking off...while in a dogfight or in the air in general i would like to use my joystick alone...any suggestions on how i would go about doing that? what MUST be binded in flight? I am partial to the p51 but am considering a Yak or mesh

crucislancer
12-21-2008, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Belemrys:
I have trim set up on one of my buttons and the hat switch...i found someone's set up for the Aviator joystick and thats what they suggested...if i could i would rather never have to use the keyboard unless its landing and taking off...while in a dogfight or in the air in general i would like to use my joystick alone...any suggestions on how i would go about doing that? what MUST be binded in flight? I am partial to the p51 but am considering a Yak or mesh

These are critical for the P-51:

Guns
Trim
Throttle
prop pitch*
views

If you go for the Yak, you will also need:

Cannons
Supercharger*
Mixture*

The ones with the "*" next to them are only needed if you use Complex Engine Management. If you turn it off, the program makes all of those adjustments for you based on altitude and throttle settings.

For the Bf109, you will only need to following, regardless of the Complex Engine Management setting:

Guns
Cannons
Trim
View
Throttle
WEP (from G6 late on, I believe)

Zeus-cat
12-21-2008, 09:05 AM
You guys should download my training campaign -Straight From the Farm. It will help you learn how to takeoff and land the SBD-3; one of the easiest planes to fly in this sim. You start on grass and move on to carriers and finish on escort carriers. I tell you what basic controls to map as you need them. I don't cover everything, but I give you a good start.

Even the noobiest noob can takeoff and land this plane after doing this campaign. The missions are very short; typically just a few minutes. The campaign comes with instructions on how to install it and play it.

I also made other missions you can use for practice after you finish the campaign.

Go grab the campaign and after an hour or two you will be a lot better at takeoffs and landings - I promise.

Bearcat99
12-21-2008, 01:02 PM
I would say that you will definitely want all your weps.. MGs, cannon, rockets & bombs on the stick.. along with your views in the hat.. If I am not mistaken all Saitek sticks allow you to set up the hat switch as a 4 way or 8 way switch.. or as a mouse.. set it up as a mouse.. much smoother and once you get used to it it is gold. use one of the throttle levers for throttle and the other for prop pitch.. You also want flaps and you will probably want a button set to center your view somewhere.. the rest is up to you. For more about other functions that you will need to have mapped to something, either a stick or the keyboard.. see the Nugget's Guide in my sig.