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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 12:39 AM
Here´s a short how-to of setting up the TrackIR so that it works properly in games. Suggestions are welcome. I hope this helps.

http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track1.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track2.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track3.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track4.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track5.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track6.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track7.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track8.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 12:39 AM
Here´s a short how-to of setting up the TrackIR so that it works properly in games. Suggestions are welcome. I hope this helps.

http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track1.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track2.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track3.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track4.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track5.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track6.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track7.jpg


http://www.student.oulu.fi/~ailomaki/track/track8.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 12:43 AM
I find it works great to have multiple dots on the mic of my headset. Just another way to do it.



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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 12:55 AM
Yes, that´s a good technique for avoiding the aspect ratio filter; having more of a "reflective ball" than just a reflective dot.That doesn´t work as well if you want to have the dot on your forehead for example. Personally I think the best place for the reflective dots is a mike boom or something similiar where you can have the dots arranged like one half of a ball. That helps eliminate problems with aspect ratio.

Having several dots on different angles might eliminate problems caused by the circular movement, but I don´t know how the TrackIR would switch between the dots; would it cause jumps and hesitation? I think it would work on one axis (horizontal), but with two axis´ combined I would imagine there would be trouble. That´s something for the TrackIR guys to think about.

I left the more advanced techniques out to keep the original instructions simple. This thread is probably a good place to share all tricks related to TIR so keep them coming.

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 01:52 AM
Ok here is my tip!

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zeliw



Here is one about multi dots in a cloverleaf pattern.


http://forums.naturalpoint.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000029



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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 02:19 AM
Sometime ago I read that the optimal TrackIr setup would be with a LED lamp.
It was suppose to completly eliminate disconnections from the dot as the LED was round,
and emitted more infrared radiation than the dot.
I tested it with the LED on my digicam, and the tracker picks it up strong and clear.

But, the disconnections are not a big problem, and a LED
lamp takes some tinkering, so I have never bothered.

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 04:08 AM
JAAR wrote:
- Sometime ago I read that the optimal TrackIr setup
- would be with a LED lamp.
- It was suppose to completly eliminate disconnections
- from the dot as the LED was round,
- and emitted more infrared radiation than the dot.
-
- I tested it with the LED on my digicam, and the
- tracker picks it up strong and clear.
-
- But, the disconnections are not a big problem, and a
- LED
- lamp takes some tinkering, so I have never bothered.
-
Yep read the same thing like you said why bother.

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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 06:10 AM
I love the pictures!

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 07:31 AM
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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 08:04 AM
JAAR wrote:
- Sometime ago I read that the optimal TrackIr setup
- would be with a LED lamp.
- It was suppose to completly eliminate disconnections
- from the dot as the LED was round,
- and emitted more infrared radiation than the dot.
-
- I tested it with the LED on my digicam, and the
- tracker picks it up strong and clear.
-
- But, the disconnections are not a big problem, and a
- LED
- lamp takes some tinkering, so I have never bothered.
-
-


According to the trackIr people in active mode any IR light source can be tracked, presumably this will include things like laser pointers.

The plans around on the net seem to involve IR LED's in old pen cases.

The only reason i could see for an active source is a high IR noise envronment, say doing a demo at a show with lots of other IR sources and reflective stuff about.

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 12:06 PM
A LED lamp would be optimal for exactly the reasons you gave. The TIR unit has its own emitter you can turn off in the driver in case you have a LED. The problem is that the TIR emitter will light up anything reflective in its range and that potentially produces lots of false reflections and can be a problem for example if the user has metal eyeglasses or headphone supports.

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 03:05 PM
I'm all thumbs, so the effort and time to make a LED cap
or simmilar would be to timeconsuming compared to the problem with TIR losing the dot.
But, if it was for sale I would purchase it.

Maybe somebody already made a LED-cap or something ?
Please, show us the pictures.

XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 09:36 PM
I've toyed with TrackIR a lot and the optimal setup seems to be what dex suggests: multiple dots on the head mike.

I haven't tried em on my forehead but I have on the back of a baseball cap (worn backwards, of course). It isn't as smooth as using the mike. Maybe because the mike boom is easier to track.

I usually gripe about a lack of documentation (as in IL-2/FB) but I think in TIR, there's too much. It's like asking what time it is and they tell you how to build a watch.

Waaaay in the back of the manual there is a step by step example of setting up enhanced TrackIR for a sim. Follow the easy steps. It worked great.

It is a super product. I wouldn't fly a sim that doesn't support it.

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