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Kaleun1961
11-14-2006, 01:32 PM
Apparently the British model company, Airfix, has been bought out or going out of business/in trouble?

BBC Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5301438.stm)

I have an unassembled model of Erich Hartmann's 109, still in the original box. Think I'll leave it that way; might be worth something some day?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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madsarmy
11-14-2006, 01:37 PM
Here's an update for you

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6134988.stm<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Even the Hun makes a pretty poor fighter with his head buried in a handkerchief!
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Kaleun1961
11-14-2006, 01:42 PM
Thanks for the update. Looks like they'll stay afloat, which is good news. They may not make elite kits, but they are affordable and a good start in modelling for kids.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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madsarmy
11-14-2006, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
They may not make elite kits, but they are affordable and a good start in modelling for kids.

I don't think there would be many young boys in blighty that has not had an Airfix kit at some point in his life. It's as British as Carry-on & fish & chips.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Even the Hun makes a pretty poor fighter with his head buried in a handkerchief!
Captain G. Mainwaring
http://www.dadsarmy.co.uk/

Goose_Green
11-14-2006, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
They may not make elite kits, but they are affordable and a good start in modelling for kids.

Very true, I was brought up on airfix kits. My next door neighbor's father had bulit loads of them and my friends bedroom ceiling was jammed full of fantastic models - I was always green with envy whenever I saw them.

My favorite was the 1/24 Spitfire and Me-109 kits I had - they were awesome, both were Airfix kits http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bockholt
11-15-2006, 12:09 AM
Some of their stuff was quite good, but quality varied enormously. For many British people 'Airfix model' = 'plastic kit'. When they went under (again!) lots of journalists started writing stupid articles saying 'Now I'll never know if my little Tom will be able to make a Spitfire 109 like I did in the far off 1980s...' - which irritated the plastic modelling community no end! The best response on the net came from an Arab guy who made kits & said 'If they get paid for nonsense like that about something so close to home, what do you think their knowledge of the Middle East is like?'

Anyway, some Airfix moulds (big machines that take up a lot of space & work worse & worse the longer you use them) have survived, so many of their kits will continue to be available. But old kits, especially with early packaging, might yet be valuable. The irony is that however beautifully you make it, it's still worth more unassembled & unwrapped!

FongFongFong
11-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Bockholt:
'Now I'll never know if my little Tom will be able to make a Spitfire 109 like I did in the far off 1980s...' Wow

I want one of those Spitfire 109s<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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JU88
11-15-2006, 01:44 AM
Used to build load when I was a kid..

They were ok but not as good as Italiari, their wellington model sucked though! the fusalage parts wouldnt join properly - always had a dirty great gap down the middle that you could only get rid off by using filler.

I read Hornby (model trains + train sets) had saved there ***.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bockholt
11-15-2006, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by FongFongFong:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bockholt:
'Now I'll never know if my little Tom will be able to make a Spitfire 109 like I did in the far off 1980s...' Wow

I want one of those Spitfire 109s </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In fact you could almost have one, as the Spanish Hispano HA-1112 Buchon is effectively a Bf-109 with a Merlin engine! The December issue of Aeroplane happens to have a lot about it - cover girl & centrefold in fact.

When The Battle of Britain movie was made in 1969 (released the following year for the 30th anniversary) they used the Spanish Air Force which still had plenty of '109s' flying. They also borrowed their He-111s. These aircraft were, of course, repainted to look more realistic. One weekend Franco borrowed the 111s back for a military parade. Apparently he didn't mind the fact that they flew past him (& visiting South American dictators & their wives) covered in swastikas!

wm4668
11-17-2006, 03:27 PM
When The Battle of Britain movie was made in 1969 (released the following year for the 30th anniversary) they used the Spanish Air Force which still had plenty of '109s' flying. They also borrowed their He-111s. These aircraft were, of course, repainted to look more realistic. One weekend Franco borrowed the 111s back for a military parade. Apparently he didn't mind the fact that they flew past him (& visiting South American dictators & their wives) covered in swastikas!

I was 11 yrs old, living in Rainham, Kent when The Battle of Britain was being filmed, and was fascinated to look up and see Spitfires, Hurricanes and "Me 109s" dogfighting, being filmed by a strangely painted B25 Mitchell, I believe. The "Making of" feature on the anniversary DVD explained that the Mitchell was painted in various colours to allow the fighters to choreograph their dogfights in their designated area of sky - might have been useful in the real thing......<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Goose_Green
11-17-2006, 08:27 PM
In fact that motley bunch of aircraft was rated as the 35th largest airforce in the world at the time of filming. Many of the Spitfires and Hurricanes were taken from the scrap heap.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bockholt
11-17-2006, 11:38 PM
Airfix quality varied a lot. Some of their 1/600 ship models are quite good & they had a fairly impressive range, perhaps based around 'well-known Germans the Royal Navy sunk in films' : Graf Spee, Bismarck, Ajax, Hood, etc. Similarly Tamiya do almost the whole of the IJN + Prince of Wales & Repulse - and almost nothing else from non-Japanese navies. A bit obvious, isn't it? German manufacturer Revell are suspiciously interested in nazi wonder weapons - all Hitler's dreams come true in 1/72nd plastic jets. Like so many British industries Airfix lost it when quality control was forgotten in the 1970s. Now the much better Far Eastern manufacturers are themselves being replaced by better-quality, cheaper East European & former Soviet (e.g. Ukraininan) kit-producers.

As for the Battle of Britain movie...it was one of those WW2 epics with too many big stars with small parts, not enough characterization or plot. Sarah Miles' haircut & makeup are straight out of the King's Road in, um, 1969 - but at least she can smoke a cigarette as she would have done in 1940. (When they show it on TV in 2010 the ciggies will be censored out).

At least the Germans speak German. Back in 1970 people were educated enough to read subtitles.

Aviation sequences are good because it was before the days of computer graphic overkill - already looking as primitive as the special effects from pre-war films. Many of the aircraft on the ground are just cardboard mock-ups. It flopped at the box office, but has done alright as a staple of Christmas & Sunday afternoon television - and anoraks like us buying over-priced DVDs...

Ubernerd alert : Get the recently-released version with William Walton's original score, considered 'too gloomy' for 1970 cinema release. Walton was extremely pissed off when some nonentities re-wrote it!

Messervy
11-18-2006, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Bockholt:
At least the Germans speak German. Back in 1970 people were educated enough to read subtitles.

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