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cawimmer430
12-20-2007, 11:50 AM
Hi guys,

I'm still working on some other World War II aircraft pictures, but I took these today on the way home. All of the shots are HDR, some extreme, some not so.

If you want any of them, let me know. They're taken in a mix of 1504 x 1000 and 2256 x 1496 @ normal quality. I can upload the shot you want on Imageshack, post the link here and hopefully make you happy!

Enjoy the shots! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


The former East German Mig-21...rusting away...
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9528/mig21ahdrid1.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6995/mig21bhdrmg3.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1858/mig21chdrvp8.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7762/mig21dhdrer8.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9408/mig21ehdrpm4.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/663/mig21ghdrbp6.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9530/mig21ihdrfz3.jpg

I love these last two shots. HDR photography is addicting. It gives the picture what I call "magical realism", an expression I ripped off from literature class, the only thing I understood about South American stories! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1208/mig21fhdrvv8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/926/mig21hhdrop2.jpg


The Antonov An-2, also neglected and forgotten by the owner of the castle you see in the background.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8987/an2ahdrdk4.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3382/an2bhdrkc6.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5859/an2chdrhl1.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6167/an2dhdriz2.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6272/an2ehdrcn5.jpg

That little speck you see in the sky is the moon. The original image is considerably larger and will allow you a better glimpse of it. My lens is still too weak though. I'm saving up for a better one which I am hoping to buy on Amazon or eBay.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3884/an2fhdrwd8.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5807/an2ghdrat9.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3733/an2hhdrrp2.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3379/an2ihdrns9.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8913/an2jhdrnh7.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5536/an2khdrjy4.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1718/an2lhdrsu0.jpg

Hope you liked the shots. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Taylortony
12-20-2007, 12:06 PM
They're staggeringly beautifully taken and posed, superb work mate, hope you do not mind but I have linked them to someone else to see :0

GreyFox5
12-20-2007, 12:21 PM
Amazing that they are just there and static...

The MiG looks so fast just sitting still!

Well done on the photos.

Would this be Poland by any chance?

RegRag1977
12-20-2007, 01:08 PM
Nice pics and beautiful winter sun light... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

KG66_Gog
12-20-2007, 01:15 PM
Nice pics.

You have a speck of dust at the high 11 oclock position that appears on several photo's. Make sure to give the lense a clean!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ytareh
12-20-2007, 01:38 PM
I always find these images of not so old (maybe just in my opinion -is the Cold War really 20 years passed almost)jet hardware provoke such a sense of frustration at the sheer waste to me.I suppose you assume -not that incorrectly surely(?), look at the B52!!!- that Mach 2 jet fighters are going to give super long service for the multi million investment.OK so an old VW Beetle of the same vintage probably wouldnt be in near as good shape ....I guess the cost of maintenance and avionics upgrades etc would be crippling and prohibitive .But I cant help consider all the poverty/misery and death that might have been alleviated for the cost of the Mig .
Heck what about that place in the US where they guillotine ...is it B52s or B1s by the dozens/hundreds.I suppose the Cold War worked in so far as nuclear holocaust was avoided for 40 years ....Reminds me of a story which i'll post about in another thread.
Pics are just amazing-second last Mig pic is now desktop
How can fabric be considered a good material to make planes out of !!!???Antonov looks SO frail...

TheGozr
12-20-2007, 01:59 PM
You made my day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

foxyboy1964
12-20-2007, 02:04 PM
Great photos, very poignant. The guys in the model aircraft thread will wet themselves when they see these.

Jaws2002
12-20-2007, 02:15 PM
Are this real pictures?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif


They look more like advertisment images to promote DirectX 25 or something.

Did you really take this photos? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

LEXX_Luthor
12-20-2007, 04:38 PM
Wow, that's amazing. Fantastic winter sky there. The gibbeous moon looks great in one pic. And two pics show the short contrail far beyond the trees...below is what I've done so far with short contrails and some near-sunset sky over the StrikeFighters. We can see that I've much work to do.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/Lexx_Luthor/img00007.jpg

DrHerb
12-20-2007, 04:42 PM
Betcha the mig will still fire up with some ether injected into the intake and some strong batteries lol

Dance
12-20-2007, 04:46 PM
You could have made a christmas calender out of those shots, nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Tbag_13
12-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Awesome, simpy awesome! Thanks Christian! Your pictures really add a lot to these forums! I'd love to see the hr versions of the following shots:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3379/an2ihdrns9.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7762/mig21dhdrer8.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5536/an2khdrjy4.jpg

Thanks again!

Lubcke
12-20-2007, 05:22 PM
very, very, very beautiful

VW-IceFire
12-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Those are absolutely incredible!

I have a question about HDR photography...is that a process on the camera itself or a post processing thing you do after?

R_Target
12-20-2007, 05:29 PM
Excellent shots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Airmail109
12-20-2007, 05:36 PM
Am I the only one thinking cheerleaders in HDR would be amusing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

CUJO_1970
12-20-2007, 05:42 PM
I'd like to see some "magical realism"...Claudia Wimmer style http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Those are some stunning pictures BTW, thanks for posting them.

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
They're staggeringly beautifully taken and posed, superb work mate, hope you do not mind but I have linked them to someone else to see :0

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Don't worry about the linking. In fact, feel free to link any picture threads I post. I don't mind at all. Could you please post the link though, I'd love to see what people are saying. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by GreyFox5:
Amazing that they are just there and static...

The MiG looks so fast just sitting still!

Well done on the photos.

Would this be Poland by any chance?

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nope, this is deep in Bavaria, Germany. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif The Antonov probably came from Poland though.

Here are some interior shots of the An-2 before the entry door was locked (vandalism etc.).

Link: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/628...281007045#6281007045 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/6281007045?r=6281007045#6281007045)

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by RegRag1977:
Nice pics and beautiful winter sun light... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I love photographing in the winter months because the air and backgrounds are so fresh and clear. It makes the backgrounds especially detailed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by KG66_Gog:
Nice pics.

You have a speck of dust at the high 11 oclock position that appears on several photo's. Make sure to give the lense a clean!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Double thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I just got my camera cleaned for free since I had it sent in for three weeks to get it fixed after my red sensor was damaged. This kind of makes me wary of sending it in because it will take three-four weeks for them to send it back - and I can't live without it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by ytareh:
I always find these images of not so old (maybe just in my opinion -is the Cold War really 20 years passed almost)jet hardware provoke such a sense of frustration at the sheer waste to me.I suppose you assume -not that incorrectly surely(?), look at the B52!!!- that Mach 2 jet fighters are going to give super long service for the multi million investment.OK so an old VW Beetle of the same vintage probably wouldnt be in near as good shape ....I guess the cost of maintenance and avionics upgrades etc would be crippling and prohibitive .But I cant help consider all the poverty/misery and death that might have been alleviated for the cost of the Mig .
Heck what about that place in the US where they guillotine ...is it B52s or B1s by the dozens/hundreds.I suppose the Cold War worked in so far as nuclear holocaust was avoided for 40 years ....Reminds me of a story which i'll post about in another thread.
Pics are just amazing-second last Mig pic is now desktop
How can fabric be considered a good material to make planes out of !!!???Antonov looks SO frail...

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here's a higher resolution shot. Use this. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/688/mig21fhdrcopyer0.jpg

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by TheGozr:
You made my day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
Great photos, very poignant. The guys in the model aircraft thread will wet themselves when they see these.

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Jaws2002:
Are this real pictures?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif


They look more like advertisment images to promote DirectX 25 or something.

Did you really take this photos? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yep, these were taken by me. This is HDR Photography, High-Dynamic-Range. I'll explain the process later. Watch my reply to VW Ice Fire. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Wow, that's amazing. Fantastic winter sky there. The gibbeous moon looks great in one pic. And two pics show the short contrail far beyond the trees...below is what I've done so far with short contrails and some near-sunset sky over the StrikeFighters. We can see that I've much work to do.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/Lexx_Luthor/img00007.jpg


Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

About the contrails in my shot, there's a local hobby airport in the area and there are quite a few airplanes at times in the air which I assume is where they come from. They're so high up you don't hear them sometimes. We're talking about Cessna's and Piper's, stuff like that.

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by DrHerb:
Betcha the mig will still fire up with some ether injected into the intake and some strong batteries lol

Nope, the engine is missing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Dance:
You could have made a christmas calender out of those shots, nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Great idea! Now all I need is Santa in the cockpit of the Mig. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'd probably want some variety though, like different airplanes. Sigh, I wish there was an airplane junkyard in my area. I love junkyards. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Tbag_13:
Awesome, simpy awesome! Thanks Christian! Your pictures really add a lot to these forums! I'd love to see the hr versions of the following shots:

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3379/an2ihdrns9.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7762/mig21dhdrer8.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5536/an2khdrjy4.jpg

Thanks again!


Thanks so much. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here you go. If you want any more, JUST ASK. It's no problem. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4973/an2ihdrcopyfx6.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5113/an2khdrcopycs8.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4745/mig21dhdrcopyoi4.jpg

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Lubcke:
very, very, very beautiful

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Those are absolutely incredible!

I have a question about HDR photography...is that a process on the camera itself or a post processing thing you do after?

Thanks, VW Ice Fire. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HDR is actually quite simple. It's a process that takes place once the photos are on your computer. You need a special program that can create HDR photography. I use Photomatix Pro 2.52 which costs about 99 Euros (with Backup CD) but Adobe Photoshop CS can handle it too I hear. Online you won't be able to find any free HDR generating programs, except "FDR Tools", which is pretty weak and just terrible.

Once you have the software, all you need is:

A) Tripod

B) A camera that allows changing of exposure settings.

These two are a must, otherwise it won't work. You need the tripod to keep the camera steady and prevent movement. The exposure settings are the real trick to HDR. I generally use the settings +2, 0 and -2, but you can go as far +5/-5 if your camera allows it. Most digital's don't, but DSLR's do. On most DSLR camera's you'll have an "Auto Bracketing" function. This means the camera will take three quick pictures of the same object with three different exposure settings, normally +2, 0 or -2 (you can program it of course).

Anyway, this is what you do on your HDR editing program.

Combine all three photos:

+2
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/Mig-21F01.jpg

0
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/Mig-21F02.jpg

-2
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/Mig-21F03.jpg

And the outcome is the shot you saw in this thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HDR is a lot of fun. And you can use HDR for a lot of things. Here are some of my best HDR shots. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0BMW118iWaldHDRAcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0AnnabrunCHDRcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/GRAVE04copy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0BMWMosslingHDRcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0GCZFlossingerEHDRcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/PassageHDRAcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0BMWMosslingHDR2copy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/GRAVE02copy.jpg

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by R_Target:
Excellent shots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Thanks buddy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
Am I the only one thinking cheerleaders in HDR would be amusing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

That would be great, but shooting moving objects in HDR is extremely difficult or next to impossible. The thing behind HDR is three different photographs of the same object at different exposure settings - a moving object is impossible to shoot in this fashion. Even the Auto Bracketing function on DSLR's can't cope with that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

cawimmer430
12-21-2007, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by CUJO_1970:
I'd like to see some "magical realism"...Claudia Wimmer style http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Those are some stunning pictures BTW, thanks for posting them.

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The only way to get great HDR shots of Claudia is if she's sleeping! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

GreyFox5
12-21-2007, 12:56 PM
Nice shots. What model bimmer is that?

Dance
12-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Great idea! Now all I need is Santa in the cockpit of the Mig. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Yep, he's the only one (perhaps with the aid of some flying reindeer) that's going to get those birds in the air again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If you make a warbirds calender, I will buy it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Tbag_13
12-21-2007, 03:30 PM
Thanks Christian, I have a new desktop now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The shots of the BMW are unbelievable! Outstanding! Look better than most advertisement pictures!

Phil_C
12-21-2007, 04:24 PM
the mig in the 4th pic just looks so cold. like if you were to touch it your fingers would stick to the skin of the jet...


amazing stuff, and i cant wait to go and try it out myself!

(maybe all those fancy graphic design and digital art classes will come in handy :lol: )

HotelBushranger
12-22-2007, 01:14 AM
Fantastic piccies mate, you've definitely got a future in photography should you choose to go with it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

fabianfred
12-22-2007, 02:10 AM
the light certainly seems excellent for photography there.....

which version of Photoshop do you use?...I have CS2

My first thought when i saw the pics of the abandoned Mig was....I wonder if anyone has got the joystick from it yet.? ... lol

edit.... I tried combining your three sample images in photoshop using the Automate/merge to HDR function...but they do not come close to yours....what other fun did you play with them?

Genie-
12-22-2007, 03:27 AM
oh.. pics are so nice! and PLS if you can upload in high res those pictures?

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9528/mig21ahdrid1.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6995/mig21bhdrmg3.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1858/mig21chdrvp8.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/663/mig21ghdrbp6.jpg

i would really like to do some work of my own on them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

THANK YOU!

AFJ_rsm
12-22-2007, 08:44 AM
Fantastic pictures, you've done an excellent job

I also love the scenery

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by GreyFox5:
Nice shots. What model bimmer is that?

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That BMW is a 1-Series and the specific model is a 118i (143-hp 1.8-l 4-cylinder). The car belongs to my sister. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Dance:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Great idea! Now all I need is Santa in the cockpit of the Mig. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Yep, he's the only one (perhaps with the aid of some flying reindeer) that's going to get those birds in the air again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If you make a warbirds calender, I will buy it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks again for the vote of confidence! I'll give the calender thingy a try, but with cars for now because I can get a lot of good shots with cars (including HDR). It will take me ages to get together airplane HDR shots. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW, I think I accidentally shot down Santa last night in my BF-110. I thought he was a Lancaster / B-17. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Tbag_13:
Thanks Christian, I have a new desktop now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The shots of the BMW are unbelievable! Outstanding! Look better than most advertisement pictures!

Anytime. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And thanks again for the compliments. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Phil_C:
the mig in the 4th pic just looks so cold. like if you were to touch it your fingers would stick to the skin of the jet...


amazing stuff, and i cant wait to go and try it out myself!

(maybe all those fancy graphic design and digital art classes will come in handy :lol: )

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Speaking of cold, it was -4 degrees C when I took these shots. I had to occasionally stop, put on my gloves and warm them up inside my coat to get my fingers warm again.

Today I went out and took some HDR shots at the local Mercedes dealer. It was -7 degrees C here today! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

And yep, go try HDR. Remember, a tripod and a camera that allows exposure changes are all you need. And a software program! I recommend PHOTOMATIX Pro 2.52. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Fantastic piccies mate, you've definitely got a future in photography should you choose to go with it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Thank you buddy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm actually looking for a professional course in photography in Munich at the moment. I really want to get into this whole photography business. It's creative and fun and I enjoy taking pictures of basically anything. It's a challenge to find "that one shot" and the angles that make a picture interesting.

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by fabianfred:
the light certainly seems excellent for photography there.....

which version of Photoshop do you use?...I have CS2

My first thought when i saw the pics of the abandoned Mig was....I wonder if anyone has got the joystick from it yet.? ... lol

edit.... I tried combining your three sample images in photoshop using the Automate/merge to HDR function...but they do not come close to yours....what other fun did you play with them?

Hi FabianFred,

I have Adobe Photoshop 7.0, but I don't use it to create HDR since it can't create them. I am not sure how Adobe Photoshop CS works, but I think if you do a google search you might be able to find plenty of tips. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I think the reason you're outcome might be different than mine probably has to do with the program. Before I paid 99 Euros for Photomatix 2.52, I used "FDR Tools" which is free but a pretty weak HDR generation program. If you use FDR and Photomatix side by side and use roughly the same settings, you'll find that the generated images are still different in color.

Photomatix 2.52 allows you to really edit every aspect of the image' coloring. Temperature, lighting, shadows, flatten lights, saturation etc. and it all works so easily and efficiently in this program. I highly recommend it. There's really nothing like this program on the market. Easy to use, efficient and fun to use to. I would recommend getting it if you're into HDR. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by AFJ_rsm:
Fantastic pictures, you've done an excellent job

I also love the scenery

Many thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Genie-:
oh.. pics are so nice! and PLS if you can upload in high res those pictures?

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9528/mig21ahdrid1.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6995/mig21bhdrmg3.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1858/mig21chdrvp8.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/663/mig21ghdrbp6.jpg

i would really like to do some work of my own on them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

THANK YOU!

Thanks. Here you go! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3668/mig21ahdrcopycb9.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/303/mig21bhdrcopypa9.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/491/mig21chdrcopyzy6.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5043/mig21ghdrcopywy6.jpg

fabianfred
12-22-2007, 12:52 PM
Thanks for your info..... do you use RAW image files or JPEGS with your Nikon F40?
I use an Olympus E-1.... looking at the new E-3 too...

this was a good guide to HDR in photoshop...
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm

but your system maybe easier and have better fine control...I'll have to try it

Dance
12-22-2007, 02:00 PM
BTW, I think I accidentally shot down Santa last night in my BF-110. I thought he was a Lancaster / B-17. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


GDI, I told him to watch out for anti-reindeer
nachtjager http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cars are good for me (primary passion), some Porsche and Mercedes perhaps http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by fabianfred:
Thanks for your info..... do you use RAW image files or JPEGS with your Nikon F40?
I use an Olympus E-1.... looking at the new E-3 too...

this was a good guide to HDR in photoshop...
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm

but your system maybe easier and have better fine control...I'll have to try it

Hi,

I use JPEG's for the sole reason that my computer is very slow when working with RAW files. Once I get a better computer I will be taking all shots in RAW format. I rarely use RAW files because of the slowness of my machine. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Great link. And update your camera! The newer the better! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS: It's Nikon D-40, not F-40. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-22-2007, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Dance:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
BTW, I think I accidentally shot down Santa last night in my BF-110. I thought he was a Lancaster / B-17. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


GDI, I told him to watch out for anti-reindeer
nachtjager http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cars are good for me (primary passion), some Porsche and Mercedes perhaps http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're gonna love the next HDR thread I just created. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VW-IceFire
12-22-2007, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by cawimmer430:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Those are absolutely incredible!

I have a question about HDR photography...is that a process on the camera itself or a post processing thing you do after?

Thanks, VW Ice Fire. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HDR is actually quite simple. It's a process that takes place once the photos are on your computer. You need a special program that can create HDR photography. I use Photomatix Pro 2.52 which costs about 99 Euros (with Backup CD) but Adobe Photoshop CS can handle it too I hear. Online you won't be able to find any free HDR generating programs, except "FDR Tools", which is pretty weak and just terrible.

Once you have the software, all you need is:

A) Tripod

B) A camera that allows changing of exposure settings.

These two are a must, otherwise it won't work. You need the tripod to keep the camera steady and prevent movement. The exposure settings are the real trick to HDR. I generally use the settings +2, 0 and -2, but you can go as far +5/-5 if your camera allows it. Most digital's don't, but DSLR's do. On most DSLR camera's you'll have an "Auto Bracketing" function. This means the camera will take three quick pictures of the same object with three different exposure settings, normally +2, 0 or -2 (you can program it of course).

Anyway, this is what you do on your HDR editing program.

Combine all three photos:

+2
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/Mig-21F01.jpg

0
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/Mig-21F02.jpg

-2
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/Mig-21F03.jpg

And the outcome is the shot you saw in this thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HDR is a lot of fun. And you can use HDR for a lot of things. Here are some of my best HDR shots. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0BMW118iWaldHDRAcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0AnnabrunCHDRcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/GRAVE04copy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0BMWMosslingHDRcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0GCZFlossingerEHDRcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/PassageHDRAcopy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/0BMWMosslingHDR2copy.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/cawimmer431/GRAVE02copy.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks for the explanation!

I have Photoshop CS3 and I know it had something named this but I hadn't really any idea how it was setup or how you do it.

I don't have a DSLR but I do have a good point and shoot...a Canon G7 which has a truckload of modes so I'll need to experiment with some manual exposure settings. I think it goes +2 to -2 and no further but that seems to be good enough.

Thanks again! I'm going to have to try this out!

fabianfred
12-23-2007, 12:38 AM
Icefire...this is a good guide to doing it in CS

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm

but make sure you use aperture priority...and allow the change in stops to alter the shutter speed and not the aperture

Genie-
12-23-2007, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by cawimmer430:

Thanks. Here you go! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



thanks a million!

MEGILE
12-23-2007, 03:57 AM
Christian, get a pair of bavarian babes and go HDR on them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cawimmer430
12-23-2007, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:

Thanks for the explanation!

I have Photoshop CS3 and I know it had something named this but I hadn't really any idea how it was setup or how you do it.

I don't have a DSLR but I do have a good point and shoot...a Canon G7 which has a truckload of modes so I'll need to experiment with some manual exposure settings. I think it goes +2 to -2 and no further but that seems to be good enough.

Thanks again! I'm going to have to try this out!


Anytime. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-2/+2 exposure is perfect. On my Nikon D40 I can go up to -5/+5 but it doesn't really make much of a visual difference I've found out. -2/+2 is all you really need. And you need a tripod for this too, don't forget that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Have fun!

cawimmer430
12-23-2007, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
Christian, get a pair of bavarian babes and go HDR on them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I need to drug them first so they'll keep still! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif j/k

MEGILE
12-23-2007, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by cawimmer430:

I need to drug them first so they'll keep still! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif j/k

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Badsight-
12-23-2007, 12:18 PM
cawimmer430 - awesome shots ~

Jagdgeschwader2
12-23-2007, 12:39 PM
Beautiful shots cawimmer430! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif You have inspired me to experiment with the settings on my Canon EOS.

I really need to get this book. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Digital-Pho...id=1198438703&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Digital-Photography/dp/0789725223/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198438703&sr=8-3)

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

cawimmer430
12-24-2007, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:

I need to drug them first so they'll keep still! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif j/k

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So they keep still!

If the subject you're photographing is in motion, you can forget taking HDR shots of it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oh yeah, here's a Bavarian babe I photographed (secretly) this summer. Those legs are die to for. Too bad she apparently had a kid. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8982/31373679ra8.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7537/61498698zi5.jpg

cawimmer430
12-24-2007, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Badsight-:
cawimmer430 - awesome shots ~

Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cawimmer430
12-24-2007, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Jagdgeschwader2:
Beautiful shots cawimmer430! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif You have inspired me to experiment with the settings on my Canon EOS.

I really need to get this book. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Digital-Pho...id=1198438703&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Digital-Photography/dp/0789725223/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198438703&sr=8-3)

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

Thank you and I am glad I inspired you. I myself was inspired to do HDR after a friend showed me how it's done. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oh, and I never really read a book on how to photograph. I am basically self thought. It all started with a crappy Fujifilm 4700 FinePix digital camera which I had for many years. I simply took pictures without ever placing emphasis on composition, angles, lighting etc. But as time goes by you somehow learn to pay attention to those things. You hear people talk, you see shots in a magazine etc. and you try to do what makes pictures feel and look nice. Basically, just go out and photograph whatever you see. With time your shots will improve and you'll begin to think creatively. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I am still learning a lot! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

rob1bureau2007
12-29-2007, 05:43 PM
Very nice pics, thanks !

Is it possible to get a high-resolution of this one please ?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/926/mig21hhdrop2.jpg

Thank you very much

cawimmer430
12-30-2007, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by rob1bureau2007:
Very nice pics, thanks !

Is it possible to get a high-resolution of this one please ?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/926/mig21hhdrop2.jpg

Thank you very much


Thanks. Here you go! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7747/mig21hhdrcopyfb4.jpg