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leitmotiv
10-05-2006, 11:02 AM
http://tinyurl.com/p297k

bazzaah2
10-05-2006, 11:41 AM
bloody Thought Police.

The attitides shown by the po-faced PC Nazis in that piece align themselves very neatly with some of Orwell's ideas, such as the attempt to control thought through the manipulation of language.

Dismal.

BSS_Goat
10-05-2006, 12:29 PM
I like this quote:

"He added that he was not homophobic and got on with gay people"

Type error or does he get "it" on with gay people?

DuxCorvan
10-05-2006, 03:33 PM
Who will put a stop to heterophobia? Some days ago, a female friend presented me a group of friends of her, most of the guys were gays. No problem for my part, but somehow it looked to some of them like I had to justify myself for not liking other men, as if it couldn't be true. They almost made me feel ashamed of being completely heterosexual.

The homophobia hunting has become a witch-hunting, true heterophobia, IMHO.

leitmotiv
10-05-2006, 03:41 PM
Agree, DC. In '76 I went into a Castro district (completely gay area of San Francisco) restaurant with my female-type girlfriend (these days you have to specify). The guy behind the cash register pointed at me and "He's OK" and at her "She goes."

slappedsilly
10-05-2006, 04:04 PM
Is there such a thing as homosexual animals? I pity the male lion that attempts that kind of relationship with another male lion. That'd make some good footage for the Animal Planet!

georgeo76
10-05-2006, 04:06 PM
That would never happen here in the US. Not the part about the joke, but the part where it's forwarded to liberals. When it comes to homosexuality and electronic communications, our conservative law-makers are all on the same page.

DuxCorvan
10-05-2006, 04:11 PM
Well, looks like some mammal species really fake 'mating' as a game with other members of their same sex while young, as a kind of training for the 'real' intersexual thing. And some monkeys, including the sex-obsessed bonobos, do mutual masturbation and other homoerotic practices. (Well, they do anything, those dirty chimps). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

But there's no animal I know which rejects heterosexual relations to dedicate itself only to homosexual ones. Only humans are 'complete' homosexuals.

leitmotiv
10-05-2006, 04:13 PM
Uh, re animals, believe it or not, there was a story in the press two years ago about hyper-aggressive homosexual male mallards buggering the heck out of other male mallards. Not kidding, really, swear.

georgeo76
10-05-2006, 04:20 PM
Actually, the research into human sexuality suggests that there orientation isn't a polarity, it's a bell curve. With some being really straight, some being really gay, but most, somewhere in the middle.

I must point out that sexuality is so rarely studied, and so poorly understood, that it's dishonest to speak authoritatively about it.



Only humans are 'complete' homosexuals.

SeaFireLIV
10-05-2006, 04:26 PM
Screwed up world.

stanford-ukded
10-05-2006, 04:29 PM
Political correctness is gay.

MEGILE
10-05-2006, 04:31 PM
Complete believe no one has said it yet

Nowt as Queer as Folk

DuxCorvan
10-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by georgeo76:
With some being really straight, some being really gay, but most, somewhere in the middle.

Bad news, guys. We have real tough machos in front of us, real gays behind, and we are in the *middle*. (Gasp!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Philipscdrw
10-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Hmm. The Lib Dems found a Tory councillor who said something that is best considered to be a dry joke, and they leap at the chance to stir up some bad press about the evil bigoted stuck-in-the-past Tories...

Most disturbing thing about that article is this:

"Although I don't go to church I hold strong Christian beliefs and still find it's an abomination as far as I'm concerned." - Tory councillor.

The church is the body of Jesus, a surrogate for him to interact with the world with, until he returns personally to Bring This World To The End Of Its Time-Limited Trial Period. Speaking from personal experience, one can't live as a Christian outside of the church (at least, not very effectively). One need to be planted in a church to grow and mature in one's relationship with Jesus. To hold 'Christian beliefs' without holding Christ is to completely and horribly miss the point.

Speaking as a Christian, I believe that God created all life, created us to be His/his companions, and that to be seperated from God (like we all are/were) is the ultimate perversion of life. Perversion of sex is much less important than this. In other words, this Tory guy's an 'abomination' for not being a companion of God, which thanks to Jesus he could be, if he wanted to.

Mr Tory Councillor is a blind hypocrite. He's about to drive off a cliff but he thinks he's a good driver because he frequently renews his engine oil. He's shouting out the window 'Everyone who doesn't signal before turning is an abominable driver!' but doesn't notice the road he's on ends at a cliff-top... It's true that you should keep fresh engine oil in your car, and anyone who doesn't signal before turning IS an abominable driver, but it's far more important to not drive off the tops of cliffs!

RCAF_Irish_403
10-05-2006, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by georgeo76:
That would never happen here in the US. Not the part about the joke, but the part where it's forwarded to liberals. When it comes to homosexuality and electronic communications, our conservative law-makers are all on the same page.

I don't thik the Euro's will get that comment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

horseback
10-05-2006, 06:02 PM
I've always felt that the real intent of the 'politically correct' crowd was to 'politically correct' the rest of us.

You know the drill: a tiny minority sets up a profoundly phony standard of behavior & beliefs, and then demands that others adhere to those standards after loudly feigning hurt and insulted feelings when the uninitiated 'oppressors' violate their silly rules by mocking them.

I suppose telling these boobs to bugger off would be taken as an invitation...

cheers

horseback

flakwagen
10-05-2006, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by slappedsilly:
Is there such a thing as homosexual animals? I pity the male lion that attempts that kind of relationship with another male lion. That'd make some good footage for the Animal Planet!

Now and then a confused animal will try to mate with the same sex. But animals are also known to eat feces and attack their own reflection in a mirror. It isn't a big surprise that they engage in homosexual behavior.

Flak

tagTaken2
10-05-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
But there's no animal I know which rejects heterosexual relations to dedicate itself only to homosexual ones. Only humans are 'complete' homosexuals.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1275591.html

I know it's a small example, but this was priceless.

leitmotiv
10-05-2006, 08:33 PM
Priapic homosexual male mallards and now penguins become Eurotrash in Germany---what next? Gay hens refuse to lay eggs?

leitmotiv
10-05-2006, 10:48 PM
Eurotrash Dutch mallard buggers croaked Dutch mallard; the scientific evidence:

http://www.nmr.nl/deins815.htm

WTE_Ibis
10-06-2006, 02:43 AM
I like this:
""I urge if we are truly going to embrace diversity all members should have compulsory equality training."

Ahh, "re-education", Orwell was only wrong in his timing it wasn't 1984, it is upon us now.
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BiscuitKnight
10-06-2006, 04:10 AM
The whole bell curve thing just enlightened me, about myself.

But Philipscdrw, I feel you're quite off centre with the comments about the Church - the Church exists to guide your faith, not be it. Do you think God is angry at Missionaries who don't go to Church because none exist where they're working, or that he cares more whether you attend church than if you practice Christian values? It reminds me of the eldery Methodists in an anecdote, who told a young minister in training, of sorts, that they didn't like his sermon about helping the poor because there was no comfort in it for them...

stanford-ukded
10-06-2006, 04:57 AM
Is anyone gay here who can actually tell us how you feel about the joke?

I reckon that the only people who actually care about this are the Lib Dems, I bet homosexuals are thicker skinned than that. No doubt much worse has been said about them.

danjama
10-06-2006, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by georgeo76:
With some being really straight, some being really gay, but most, somewhere in the middle.

Bad news, guys. We have real tough machos in front of us, real gays behind, and we are in the *middle*. (Gasp!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Luckily where i live it's not normal to be gay. I'm not homophobic but i dont like to think about that sort of thing, to me its just not pleasent. If i ever went to a club or whatever and i was looked down on for being strait, i would feel disgusted.

CHDT
10-06-2006, 05:13 AM
The once great country that was England is now turning in a sad Orwell's joke.

Grue_
10-06-2006, 06:14 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

If the Lib Dems get voted in next election I'm leaving the country http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

SeaFireLIV
10-06-2006, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by georgeo76:
With some being really straight, some being really gay, but most, somewhere in the middle.

Bad news, guys. We have real tough machos in front of us, real gays behind, and we are in the *middle*. (Gasp!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Luckily where i live it's not normal to be gay. I'm not homophobic but i dont like to think about that sort of thing, to me its just not pleasent. If i ever went to a club or whatever and i was looked down on for being strait, i would feel disgusted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I don`t agree with being gay (does that make me homophobic?), but that doesn`t mean that I would persecute a guy for being gay as long as he doesn`t persecute me for being Heterosexual!

leitmotiv
10-06-2006, 06:33 AM
There are places in California where one is expected to apologize for not being a member of an "oppressed" minority and for being of European descent. Gets a bit old, believe me.

Lucius_Esox
10-06-2006, 06:58 AM
Just got in from work and am tired.. I read this and think, these people actually have some influence on how I live my life.... Oh no.

After much deep thought I conclude that people who are capable of finding offence in this are a load of ******s..

Lucius_Esox
10-06-2006, 07:00 AM
Hmm, W*A*N*K*E*R*S I say, where's my flamethrower

Jester_159th
10-06-2006, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Grue_:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

If the Lib Dems get voted in next election I'm leaving the country http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

You'll not need to pack then. From what I see at the moment there's more chance of the BNP replacing the Lib-Dems as the country's 3rd largest political party than there is of the Lib-Dems actually getting into power.

x6BL_Brando
10-06-2006, 08:10 AM
When it comes to po-faced Nazis - you can't beat the real thing. (http://www.mtsu.edu/%7Ebaustin/homobg.html)

That awfulness is why people get so tetchy about homophobic remarks - not "political correctness". Maybe Mr Self-righteous Tory councillor should take a read. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

B