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UBOSOFT-Gamer
12-03-2011, 07:32 AM
hello everybody,

with the backgorund of a possible setting in medivieval china or feudal japan, i think it is of interest of sahring these two threads i found, so everybody can make his own opinion about asian historical cities. sure these are of course not all chinese/asian cities, but it gives a good view.

Altough the buidlings look nice, in my opinion they doesnt' fit for Assassins Creeed.

But make your own opnion.

Ancient Chinese Architecture and Historical Towns?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/...thread.php?t=1238455 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1238455)


Photos of What Asian Cities Looked Like Before Modern Buildings
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/...chinese+architecture (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1184797&highlight=ancient+chinese+architecture)

I hope the Devs stay out of Asia. Sorry, but thats my opnion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

freddie_1897
12-03-2011, 09:19 AM
I agree, beautiful architecture, but it dosnt fit in an AC game.
I'm backing victorian London for AC4

RzaRecta357
12-03-2011, 09:21 AM
It's not gonna end up going Asian people. It just wouldn't fit with AC.

And if it did, you wouldn't have ninjas or samurais.

Maybe a speial unit like the jannasarie.

rileypoole1234
12-03-2011, 09:42 AM
In the first link, there's basically one building in the middle of some water. Not enough to climb. Everything's too spread out. It wouldn't fit AC. If you notice, in the second link, somebody posted some pictures of London, which would be the perfect place for an AC game.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
12-03-2011, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by rileypoole1234:
In the first link, there's basically one building in the middle of some water. Not enough to climb. Everything's too spread out. It wouldn't fit AC. If you notice, in the second link, somebody posted some pictures of London, which would be the perfect place for an AC game.

i tought excatly the same!!
and if you notice carefully, most asian building showed in those threads aren't very high!

LightRey
12-03-2011, 10:42 AM
Ditto on this thread.

kriegerdesgottes
12-03-2011, 10:46 AM
The more I look at these pictures the more I wonder if they designed these buildings specifically so people couldn't climb on them.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 10:52 AM
I don't think the locations of the AC series should be limited to whether the architecture is easily climbable or not, that is a silly restriction. The assassins are a global organisation. I hope the series does go to the Orient one day, doesn't have to be in 3 but in another game down the line.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Eregost:
I don't think the locations of the AC series should be limited to whether the architecture is easily climbable or not, that is a silly restriction. The assassins are a global organisation. I hope the series does go to the Orient one day, doesn't have to be in 3 but in another game down the line.
They should. Gameplay should always come first.

ProdiGurl
12-03-2011, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
It's not gonna end up going Asian people. It just wouldn't fit with AC.

And if it did, you wouldn't have ninjas or samurais.

Maybe a speial unit like the jannasarie.

Yes exactly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
When they change the title to Ninja's Creed, I'm done w/ the series

Eregost
12-03-2011, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
I don't think the locations of the AC series should be limited to whether the architecture is easily climbable or not, that is a silly restriction. The assassins are a global organisation. I hope the series does go to the Orient one day, doesn't have to be in 3 but in another game down the line.
They should. Gameplay should always come first. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well first of all east asian structures can be climbable. For example Japanese walls were built sloped on purpose so that they could be scaled. Secondly, I wouldn't mind an AC game without running on rooftops. This isn't what makes an AC game, not ever close.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
I don't think the locations of the AC series should be limited to whether the architecture is easily climbable or not, that is a silly restriction. The assassins are a global organisation. I hope the series does go to the Orient one day, doesn't have to be in 3 but in another game down the line.
They should. Gameplay should always come first. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well first of all east asian structures can be climbable. For example Japanese walls were built sloped on purpose so that they could be scaled. Secondly, I wouldn't mind an AC game without running on rooftops. This isn't what makes an AC game, not ever close. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you kidding me? Freerunning is basically half the game. AC without running over rooftops is like minecraft without a pickaxe.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 11:15 AM
Maybe for you. Not for me. But anyway this whole discussion is moot since east asian structures can be scaled.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 11:18 AM
Now personally the setting I'd love the most is a mesoamerican one. Would have a lot of potential given their religion, politics, temples, alien myths, and the general jungle setting and cool architecture.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Eregost:
Maybe for you. Not for me. But anyway this whole discussion is moot since east asian structures can be scaled.
Just because they can be scaled doesn't mean they're appropriate for freerunning. Those rooftops are terrible for freerunning and the buildings are so far apart from each other that you can't even jump from one to the next.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Maybe for you. Not for me. But anyway this whole discussion is moot since east asian structures can be scaled.
Just because they can be scaled doesn't mean they're appropriate for freerunning. Those rooftops are terrible for freerunning and the buildings are so far apart from each other that you can't even jump from one to the next. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If that's true then you go without I guess.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Maybe for you. Not for me. But anyway this whole discussion is moot since east asian structures can be scaled.
Just because they can be scaled doesn't mean they're appropriate for freerunning. Those rooftops are terrible for freerunning and the buildings are so far apart from each other that you can't even jump from one to the next. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If that's true then you go without I guess. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you suggesting they make an AC game without freerunning? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

albertwesker22
12-03-2011, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Maybe for you. Not for me. But anyway this whole discussion is moot since east asian structures can be scaled.
Just because they can be scaled doesn't mean they're appropriate for freerunning. Those rooftops are terrible for freerunning and the buildings are so far apart from each other that you can't even jump from one to the next. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If that's true then you go without I guess. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you suggesting they make an AC game without freerunning? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like we got another Dragon Ball Z fan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Why don't we just make an AC in the north pole while we're at it?

LightRey
12-03-2011, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Looks like we got another Dragon Ball Z fan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Why don't we just make an AC in the north pole while we're at it?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Then we'd get to kill Santa.

albertwesker22
12-03-2011, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Looks like we got another Dragon Ball Z fan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Why don't we just make an AC in the north pole while we're at it?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Then we'd get to kill Santa. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who is clearly an Assassin.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvll6sq4yr1qgtll8o1_500.png

Eregost
12-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
Are you suggesting they make an AC game without freerunning? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

If it can't be made to fit into the setting then yes. I also want to see a modern age AC game and there wouldn't be a lot of free running in that. Free running isn't an important part of what makes an AC game to me personally, why is that hard to understand? I care about the story and characters first and foremost.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Looks like we got another Dragon Ball Z fan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Why don't we just make an AC in the north pole while we're at it?
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Then we'd get to kill Santa. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who is clearly an Assassin.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvll6sq4yr1qgtll8o1_500.png </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
In that case I think we'd get to kill as Santa.


Santa's Creed everybody. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

LightRey
12-03-2011, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Are you suggesting they make an AC game without freerunning? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

If it can't be made to fit into the setting then yes. I also want to see a modern age AC game and there wouldn't be a lot of free running in that. Free running isn't an important part of what makes an AC game to me personally, why is that hard to understand? I care about the story and characters first and foremost. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
They'd never do that with main game. Hell, they didn't even do so with the DS, or even the mobile games. You're asking for an entirely different game. Go play GTA or something.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 12:36 PM
Read my post again. I care about story and characters most of all. The modern age in the AC universe is a very interesting setting. Does GTA have a story like AC's? NO. If you love free running so much, why don't you go play Prince of Persia.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
Read my post again. I care about story and characters most of all. The modern age in the AC universe is a very interesting setting. Does GTA have a story like AC's? NO. If you love free running so much, why don't you go play Prince of Persia.
Freerunning is a central element of the AC games. I absolutely love the story behind AC, but taking away freerunning is just plain stupid. AC isn't just good because of the story, it's also good because of it's amazing gameplay. A game with a good story but bad gameplay is a movie where you annoyingly have to press buttons all the time.

Assassin's Creed has always used freerunning as a central element of their gameplay. They're not just going to take that away just so they could have a game take place in Eastern Asia.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
12-03-2011, 12:41 PM
well, in every AC game now we had story and freeruning, the Ubisoft-developers will not change that, i am sure.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Read my post again. I care about story and characters most of all. The modern age in the AC universe is a very interesting setting. Does GTA have a story like AC's? NO. If you love free running so much, why don't you go play Prince of Persia.
Freerunning is a central element of the AC games. I absolutely love the story behind AC, but taking away freerunning is just plain stupid. AC isn't just good because of the story, it's also good because of it's amazing gameplay. A game with a good story but bad gameplay is a movie where you annoyingly have to press buttons all the time.

Assassin's Creed has always used freerunning as a central element of their gameplay. They're not just going to take that away just so they could have a game take place in Eastern Asia. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can still have good gameplay without free running. Free running =/= good gameplay. You believe free running is a core of the experience but I don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This series has shown it isn't afraid to experiment with gameplay concepts and so I can very much see a title in a setting where free running isn't as easy to do.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Read my post again. I care about story and characters most of all. The modern age in the AC universe is a very interesting setting. Does GTA have a story like AC's? NO. If you love free running so much, why don't you go play Prince of Persia.
Freerunning is a central element of the AC games. I absolutely love the story behind AC, but taking away freerunning is just plain stupid. AC isn't just good because of the story, it's also good because of it's amazing gameplay. A game with a good story but bad gameplay is a movie where you annoyingly have to press buttons all the time.

Assassin's Creed has always used freerunning as a central element of their gameplay. They're not just going to take that away just so they could have a game take place in Eastern Asia. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can still have good gameplay without free running. Free running =/= good gameplay. You believe free running is a core of the experience but I don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This series has shown it isn't afraid to experiment with gameplay concepts and so I can very much see a title in a setting where free running isn't as easy to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not saying you can't have good gameplay without freerunning, I'm saying that taking it away just won't, and shouldn't happen. Freerunning is a big part of the Assassin's Creed "experience". If you want to play a game with different gameplay, play a different game.

albertwesker22
12-03-2011, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Read my post again. I care about story and characters most of all. The modern age in the AC universe is a very interesting setting. Does GTA have a story like AC's? NO. If you love free running so much, why don't you go play Prince of Persia.
Freerunning is a central element of the AC games. I absolutely love the story behind AC, but taking away freerunning is just plain stupid. AC isn't just good because of the story, it's also good because of it's amazing gameplay. A game with a good story but bad gameplay is a movie where you annoyingly have to press buttons all the time.

Assassin's Creed has always used freerunning as a central element of their gameplay. They're not just going to take that away just so they could have a game take place in Eastern Asia. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can still have good gameplay without free running. Free running =/= good gameplay. You believe free running is a core of the experience but I don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This series has shown it isn't afraid to experiment with gameplay concepts and so I can very much see a title in a setting where free running isn't as easy to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Assassin's Creed without free running, is like Resident evil without Zombies...Oh wait http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Eregost
12-03-2011, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
I'm not saying you can't have good gameplay without freerunning, I'm saying that taking it away just won't, and shouldn't happen. Freerunning is a big part of the Assassin's Creed "experience". If you want to play a game with different gameplay, play a different game.

This is your opinion. I disagree. I will not play another game as I love this series and want to see it here.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
I'm not saying you can't have good gameplay without freerunning, I'm saying that taking it away just won't, and shouldn't happen. Freerunning is a big part of the Assassin's Creed "experience". If you want to play a game with different gameplay, play a different game.

This is your opinion. I disagree. I will not play another game as I love this series and want to see it here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then expect there to be freerunning at every corner, because they're not taking that away.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
I'm not saying you can't have good gameplay without freerunning, I'm saying that taking it away just won't, and shouldn't happen. Freerunning is a big part of the Assassin's Creed "experience". If you want to play a game with different gameplay, play a different game.

This is your opinion. I disagree. I will not play another game as I love this series and want to see it here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then expect there to be freerunning at every corner, because they're not taking that away. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither of us knows what to expect from future titles. I'm not against free running, on the contrary I enjoy it but like I said, I'd like to see the series go to east asia and also come to modern times and free running may not be practical in those settings. In that case, for me, the settings take precedence over the ability to free run since they are great for story and character material.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
I'm not saying you can't have good gameplay without freerunning, I'm saying that taking it away just won't, and shouldn't happen. Freerunning is a big part of the Assassin's Creed "experience". If you want to play a game with different gameplay, play a different game.

This is your opinion. I disagree. I will not play another game as I love this series and want to see it here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then expect there to be freerunning at every corner, because they're not taking that away. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither of us knows what to expect from future titles. I'm not against free running, on the contrary I enjoy it but like I said, I'd like to see the series go to east asia and also come to modern times and free running may not be practical in those settings. In that case, for me, the settings take precedence over the ability to free run since they are great for story and character material. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm fairly sure. They've always had freerunning, in bot SP and MP, in all of their games, which include even the little DS and mobile games.

They might one day, after AC3 make an AC game in which there is little to no freerunning, but it'll be a side game at best.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 01:52 PM
You state so many assumptions as fact Lightray, that you must be a seer. Tell me, what will I eat tomorrow?

LightRey
12-03-2011, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
You state so many assumptions as fact Lightray, that you must be a seer. Tell me, what will I eat tomorrow?
Oh, come on. How often does it happen that the sequel to a game series has completely different gameplay from its prequels? It just doesn't happen and seeing as AC already has several installments, all with very similar gameplay, I see no reason to speculate that they'll deviate from that path.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 02:01 PM
Limited free running would not be completely different gameplay though. ACB had a lot more horse riding than free running so actually it's already been done. Rome was a bad place for free running and limited to a small area of the gameworld.

ProdiGurl
12-03-2011, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Eregost:
Read my post again. I care about story and characters most of all. The modern age in the AC universe is a very interesting setting. Does GTA have a story like AC's? NO. If you love free running so much, why don't you go play Prince of Persia.
Freerunning is a central element of the AC games. I absolutely love the story behind AC, but taking away freerunning is just plain stupid. AC isn't just good because of the story, it's also good because of it's amazing gameplay. A game with a good story but bad gameplay is a movie where you annoyingly have to press buttons all the time.

Assassin's Creed has always used freerunning as a central element of their gameplay. They're not just going to take that away just so they could have a game take place in Eastern Asia. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can still have good gameplay without free running. Free running =/= good gameplay. You believe free running is a core of the experience but I don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This series has shown it isn't afraid to experiment with gameplay concepts and so I can very much see a title in a setting where free running isn't as easy to do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Assassin's Creed without free running, is like Resident evil without Zombies...Oh wait http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did somebody say RESIDENT EVIL !!! ?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'm pretty horrible at chasing & timed stuff unfortunately.

albertwesker22
12-03-2011, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
Limited free running would not be completely different gameplay though. ACB had a lot more horse riding than free running so actually it's already been done. Rome was a bad place for free running and limited to a small area of the gameworld.

No it wasn't. Not in the slightest, it had a lot of countryside yes, but there were still a lot of buildings and you could free run just like in AC 1/2.

LightRey
12-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
Limited free running would not be completely different gameplay though. ACB had a lot more horse riding than free running so actually it's already been done. Rome was a bad place for free running and limited to a small area of the gameworld.
No, they added extra horse riding. As most missions took place inside the city centre of Rome or at locations where there still were structures to freerun on, freerunning was still the major gameplay element. The horses' added mechanics were just an extra and they were completely removed in ACR.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 02:13 PM
Yeah they removed the horses to suit the setting. A packed urban landscape like Constantinople's didn't need them. Just like how in a setting where free running cannot always be done, they would replace it with a different mechanic appropriate to the setting, ala horses in Rome and the Kingdom in AC1.

ProdiGurl
12-03-2011, 02:17 PM
Were there horses in AC1 ?

ACSineQuaNon
12-03-2011, 02:28 PM
While some of those pictures do show Chinese cities with sparse rooftop density, not all Imperial Chinese cities had layouts like those. All you have to do is use Google, and you'll see otherwise. If anyone's seen Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, then you'll know free-running is certainly possible. The Japanese cities also provide great opportunities for free-running. The pictures provided clearly show that the rooftops are adequately close, wide, and lengthy for smooth parkour.

The grand, open areas are also, imo, epic. These sprawling uban plazas are what was missing from ACB and ACR. AC2 had these magnificent open spaces in front of cathedrals (especially Florence and Venice) that crowds gathered in. The areas surrounding the Duomo and Santa Croce in Florence gave off a truly vital, urban vibe. They made the city feel more than a glorified sandbox. This is only my opinion, but I'm sure many others feel the same way. An Oriental setting would be amazing.

Edit: That being said, I still would like AC3 to be set during the French Revolution. I feel like a Canadian company like Ubisoft will be able to capture the essence of the period. It would have been awesome for AC3 to have been set during first the American Revolution and then the French Revolution because they were less than 10 years apart, but I guess that's not happening.

Eregost
12-03-2011, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by ProdiGurl:
Were there horses in AC1 ?

Yes, there have been horses in every main AC game except for ACR. ACB had the most complex horse related mechanics except for the removal of galloping due to console hardware limitations. AC1 had a large open region called the Kingdom that connected all the locations in the game and it would be traversed by horse. I miss the Kingdom, not a fan of the teleporting present in AC2, would have liked to actually travel through the italian country.

tarrero
12-03-2011, 04:09 PM
Here is my opinion about China and Japan.

I think the mechanics of the game, in terms of freerunning and stealth would suit PERFECTLY with China and its "warriors", and even though I prefer it over Japan, I still believe it to be a overused setting, after all, originality is what has made this franchise so unique.

However, I would greatly enjoy a AC spin off.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
12-03-2011, 05:44 PM
i hope for europe again, but i wouldn't mind middle east again or egypt.
Possibly the americas of the spanisch conquest sounds cool tough.

asia would be my last choice and i wouldn't know if i would play AC3 if it would be set in medieval china or feudal japan.

ACSineQuaNon
12-03-2011, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
i hope for europe again, but i wouldn't mind middle east again or egypt.
Possibly the americas of the spanisch conquest sounds cool tough.

asia would be my last choice and i wouldn't know if i would play AC3 if it would be set in medieval china or feudal japan.

Why wouldn't you play AC3 if it were set in Medieval China or Feudal Japan? I don't understand that mentality. Why wouldn't you even give it a chance?

tarrero
12-03-2011, 06:20 PM
My problem, is that ninjas and edo period are that overused, there is a wikipedia entry about it, literally hundreds of times.

Ad well, I like original stuff on ths franchise, other that, I think is a cool setting.

MaKaVeLiTL
12-03-2011, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Are you suggesting they make an AC game without freerunning? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

If it can't be made to fit into the setting then yes. I also want to see a modern age AC game and there wouldn't be a lot of free running in that. Free running isn't an important part of what makes an AC game to me personally, why is that hard to understand? I care about the story and characters first and foremost. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well thank god you don't run the show at UBI, the AC games would truly suck if you had your way! AC without freerunning would be boring as hell, and quite a lot of the time the best way to asassinate your targets is from a roof!

kriegerdesgottes
12-03-2011, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Eregost:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Are you suggesting they make an AC game without freerunning? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

If it can't be made to fit into the setting then yes. I also want to see a modern age AC game and there wouldn't be a lot of free running in that. Free running isn't an important part of what makes an AC game to me personally, why is that hard to understand? I care about the story and characters first and foremost. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif This is just soo....so wrong...

rain89c
12-03-2011, 11:30 PM
This thread was made just to bash on how East Asia won't work in AC3. If Ubi wants to use East Asia as a setting, they'll make it work.
Claiming this and that won't work its dumb, because you guys aren;t the developers, and developers certainly do not have such a close mind.

And lastly, do you really think any of the AC settings used had all those Bars hanging around in random areas of the city so you can swing around efficiently? Exactly, no, they made it so free running would work in those settings, to make it smooth.

I don't see any problems with free running in the Orient's rooftops.

ACSineQuaNon
12-04-2011, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
This thread was made just to bash on how East Asia won't work in AC3. If Ubi wants to use East Asia as a setting, they'll make it work.
Claiming this and that won't work its dumb, because you guys aren;t the developers, and developers certainly do not have such a close mind.

And lastly, do you really think any of the AC settings used had all those Bars hanging around in random areas of the city so you can swing around efficiently? Exactly, no, they made it so free running would work in those settings, to make it smooth.

I don't see any problems with free running in the Orient's rooftops.

This x 1000
The developers would not sacrifice a pillar of their gameplay, free-running, just to have it set in Asia. They obviously have done enough research on the architecture and city layouts of Medieval China/Feudal Japan, to consider them viable locations for future AC installments. It's preposterous to claim these settings "won't work" just because of a few pictures. As I've mentioned before, there are countless pictures that prove the contrary.

Kraschman2010
12-04-2011, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by tarrero:
My problem, is that ninjas and edo period are that overused, there is a wikipedia entry about it, literally hundreds of times.

Ad well, I like original stuff on ths franchise, other that, I think is a cool setting.

Who's to say the Edo period is necessary? I'd go just shy of it. The end of the Sengoku Jidai would fit in much better. Civil war, the Jessuits and their influence (can we say Templars anyone?)

Ezio only lived until 1524. The Edo period starts in 1603. Perhaps the Assassins help Tokugawa come to power, Oda Nobunaga could be a Templar... there's lots of juicy possibilities.

One thing, I'd definitely want the next ancestor to be female. It MIGHT promote a little more requirement for stealth and less open conflict due to less physical strength and size, but more graceful combat.

souNdwAve89
12-04-2011, 03:23 AM
The pictures are cool and I wouldn't mind an Asian setting in AC3 or future games. I don't get why people associate Asia with ninjas or samurais. If they do pick an Asian country for AC3, the character doesn't have to be a ninja or samurai. If anything, they can just have 3 factions like in AC1: Assassins, Knight Templars, and the Saracens. I can understand that people are "tired" or ninja games and what not, but this is Ubisoft after all. I am sure that SOME people thought AC2 being during the Renaissance or ACR being in Constantinople was an odd choice, but it worked. If they do announce China, Japan, or whatever for AC3 or future games, then just give it a chance and see the gameplay videos. If anything, I can see this forums going nuts and anti-Asia or Ubisoft hate threads IF they do announce it.

LightRey
12-04-2011, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by ACSineQuaNon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
This thread was made just to bash on how East Asia won't work in AC3. If Ubi wants to use East Asia as a setting, they'll make it work.
Claiming this and that won't work its dumb, because you guys aren;t the developers, and developers certainly do not have such a close mind.

And lastly, do you really think any of the AC settings used had all those Bars hanging around in random areas of the city so you can swing around efficiently? Exactly, no, they made it so free running would work in those settings, to make it smooth.

I don't see any problems with free running in the Orient's rooftops.

This x 1000
The developers would not sacrifice a pillar of their gameplay, free-running, just to have it set in Asia. They obviously have done enough research on the architecture and city layouts of Medieval China/Feudal Japan, to consider them viable locations for future AC installments. It's preposterous to claim these settings "won't work" just because of a few pictures. As I've mentioned before, there are countless pictures that prove the contrary. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just don't see freerunning working properly in such a setting. Regardless, Eastern Asia is a cliche, overdone setting. Assassin's Creed 3, should, like it's predecessors, be set at a time and place that has rarely or never been done before.

fossa1991
12-04-2011, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by ACSineQuaNon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
This thread was made just to bash on how East Asia won't work in AC3. If Ubi wants to use East Asia as a setting, they'll make it work.
Claiming this and that won't work its dumb, because you guys aren;t the developers, and developers certainly do not have such a close mind.

And lastly, do you really think any of the AC settings used had all those Bars hanging around in random areas of the city so you can swing around efficiently? Exactly, no, they made it so free running would work in those settings, to make it smooth.

I don't see any problems with free running in the Orient's rooftops.

This x 1000
The developers would not sacrifice a pillar of their gameplay, free-running, just to have it set in Asia. They obviously have done enough research on the architecture and city layouts of Medieval China/Feudal Japan, to consider them viable locations for future AC installments. It's preposterous to claim these settings "won't work" just because of a few pictures. As I've mentioned before, there are countless pictures that prove the contrary. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My heroes! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NineteenHealer
12-04-2011, 04:37 AM
Will Desmond be back? if he is how can he have Asian blood he doesn't look Asian ... probably 1/64th Asian

LightRey
12-04-2011, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by NineteenHealer:
Will Desmond be back? if he is how can he have Asian blood he doesn't look Asian ... probably 1/64th Asian
so 6 generations apart? Assuming one generation ~ 30 years said Asian Assassin would be from about 200-230 years ago.

Said Asian Assassin would of course have to have married to a non-Asian individual and likely have moved away from Asia as no other ancestor of Desmond from that generation and after could be Asian to make this particular scenario work.

fossa1991
12-04-2011, 04:51 AM
Hmmm we do not need an asian character for the game to be set in Asia.Like Ezio is not from Constantinopel

LightRey
12-04-2011, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by fossa1991:
Hmmm we do not need an asian character for the game to be set in Asia.Like Ezio is not from Constantinopel
True, but it makes it less likely. Constantinople was a lot more accessible to non Eastern Asians than Eastern Asia.

tarrero
12-04-2011, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Kraschman2010:


Who's to say the Edo period is necessary? I'd go just shy of it. The end of the Sengoku Jidai would fit in much better. Civil war, the Jessuits and their influence (can we say Templars anyone?)

Ezio only lived until 1524. The Edo period starts in 1603. Perhaps the Assassins help Tokugawa come to power, Oda Nobunaga could be a Templar... there's lots of juicy possibilities.

One thing, I'd definitely want the next ancestor to be female. It MIGHT promote a little more requirement for stealth and less open conflict due to less physical strength and size, but more graceful combat.

That exactly explains my point, that period has been done hundreds of times, there is wikipedia entry about it, tons of animes, mangas, video games, I would enjoy it as a spin off, but not as an AC game.

I even prefer China, and mostly India over Japan.

rain89c
12-04-2011, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by tarrero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:


Who's to say the Edo period is necessary? I'd go just shy of it. The end of the Sengoku Jidai would fit in much better. Civil war, the Jessuits and their influence (can we say Templars anyone?)

Ezio only lived until 1524. The Edo period starts in 1603. Perhaps the Assassins help Tokugawa come to power, Oda Nobunaga could be a Templar... there's lots of juicy possibilities.

One thing, I'd definitely want the next ancestor to be female. It MIGHT promote a little more requirement for stealth and less open conflict due to less physical strength and size, but more graceful combat.

That exactly explains my point, that period has been done hundreds of times, there is wikipedia entry about it, tons of animes, mangas, video games, I would enjoy it as a spin off, but not as an AC game.

I even prefer China, and mostly India over Japan. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just because its done hundreds of times doesn't mean the way Ubisoft makes it will look the same.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:


Who's to say the Edo period is necessary? I'd go just shy of it. The end of the Sengoku Jidai would fit in much better. Civil war, the Jessuits and their influence (can we say Templars anyone?)

Ezio only lived until 1524. The Edo period starts in 1603. Perhaps the Assassins help Tokugawa come to power, Oda Nobunaga could be a Templar... there's lots of juicy possibilities.

One thing, I'd definitely want the next ancestor to be female. It MIGHT promote a little more requirement for stealth and less open conflict due to less physical strength and size, but more graceful combat.

That exactly explains my point, that period has been done hundreds of times, there is wikipedia entry about it, tons of animes, mangas, video games, I would enjoy it as a spin off, but not as an AC game.

I even prefer China, and mostly India over Japan. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just because its done hundreds of times doesn't mean the way Ubisoft makes it will look the same. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well they can't deviate much from anything that's historically accurate, which leaves few options. Even if those anime, manga and video games weren't historically accurate, all of them would still have had tons of elements that we'd all see return in said hypothetical AC game.

NuclearFuss
12-05-2011, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NineteenHealer:
Will Desmond be back? if he is how can he have Asian blood he doesn't look Asian ... probably 1/64th Asian
so 6 generations apart? Assuming one generation ~ 30 years said Asian Assassin would be from about 200-230 years ago.

Said Asian Assassin would of course have to have married to a non-Asian individual and likely have moved away from Asia as no other ancestor of Desmond from that generation and after could be Asian to make this particular scenario work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't necessarily have to be an ancestor Asian. Just an ancestor in Asia. la an Italian in Turkey (even though I understand there were lots there, but you see my point).

Kraschman2010
12-05-2011, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by sackboy411:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NineteenHealer:
Will Desmond be back? if he is how can he have Asian blood he doesn't look Asian ... probably 1/64th Asian
so 6 generations apart? Assuming one generation ~ 30 years said Asian Assassin would be from about 200-230 years ago.

Said Asian Assassin would of course have to have married to a non-Asian individual and likely have moved away from Asia as no other ancestor of Desmond from that generation and after could be Asian to make this particular scenario work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't necessarily have to be an ancestor Asian. Just an ancestor in Asia. la an Italian in Turkey (even though I understand there were lots there, but you see my point). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Even if the ancestor IS Asian, that's not much of an issue either.

The Jesuits and the Spanish and Portuguese did a lot of trading between both China AND Japan near the end of the Sengoku Jidai, and the English and Dutch were just starting to arrive. And being so far from home, some took local wives. Hence a simple way for an Asian ancestor to leave their native shores if need be so as not to add too much Asian blood in Desmond's makeup.

You might recall we DID see Mount Fuji depicted on Desmond's cell in AC1.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
Even if the ancestor IS Asian, that's not much of an issue either.

The Jesuits and the Spanish and Portuguese did a lot of trading between both China AND Japan near the end of the Sengoku Jidai, and the English and Dutch were just starting to arrive. And being so far from home, some took local wives. Hence a simple way for an Asian ancestor to leave their native shores if need be so as not to add too much Asian blood in Desmond's makeup.

You might recall we DID see Mount Fuji depicted on Desmond's cell in AC1.
The Dutch mostly traded in and with Indonesia. We never really had a solid, direct trading relation with China or Japan during those days.

DavisP92
12-05-2011, 08:15 AM
It don't think we have to justify playing as an Asian ancestor just cuz (i remember someone said this [not exact words]) China didn't really allow anyone to leave or get in. Some Chinese assassins were able to leave and even go back into china. I am starting to understand and sympothize with LightRey's opinion about it is overused. But if Ubisoft can make it work and feel different then all games then i'm done with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
It don't think we have to justify playing as an Asian ancestor just cuz (i remember someone said this [not exact words]) China didn't really allow anyone to leave or get in. Some Chinese assassins were able to leave and even go back into china. I am starting to understand and sympothize with LightRey's opinion about it is overused. But if Ubisoft can make it work and feel different then all games then i'm done with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
Oh, don't get me wrong. It's not like I'll suddenly boycott AC if it goes to an Eastern Asian setting. Even if they do I expect an amazing game. It's just one of my least favorite settings.

rain89c
12-05-2011, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tarrero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:


Who's to say the Edo period is necessary? I'd go just shy of it. The end of the Sengoku Jidai would fit in much better. Civil war, the Jessuits and their influence (can we say Templars anyone?)

Ezio only lived until 1524. The Edo period starts in 1603. Perhaps the Assassins help Tokugawa come to power, Oda Nobunaga could be a Templar... there's lots of juicy possibilities.

One thing, I'd definitely want the next ancestor to be female. It MIGHT promote a little more requirement for stealth and less open conflict due to less physical strength and size, but more graceful combat.

That exactly explains my point, that period has been done hundreds of times, there is wikipedia entry about it, tons of animes, mangas, video games, I would enjoy it as a spin off, but not as an AC game.

I even prefer China, and mostly India over Japan. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just because its done hundreds of times doesn't mean the way Ubisoft makes it will look the same. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well they can't deviate much from anything that's historically accurate, which leaves few options. Even if those anime, manga and video games weren't historically accurate, all of them would still have had tons of elements that we'd all see return in said hypothetical AC game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am talking about the style of visuals not the era. He was referring to china and Japan being done many times. But he speaks in terms of manga, anime, etc. Ubisoft's style of depiction would be different, it'll be an actual recreation of that era in a realistic fashion. Not in a cartoon like fashion. The comparison is not even valid, just because the era has been done in a book/movie doesn't mean it won't work. There are comic books/movies done in Europe Also, but I've yet to see you say anything about that, so what's this talk about east Asia being overuse..?

luckyto
12-05-2011, 09:45 AM
Either China or Victorian England would be fine with me, though I'd prefer China. I don't see what the animosity is about. China has just as much validity as an AC location as Victorian England does.

tarrero
12-05-2011, 09:49 AM
Do not get me wrong, if that era has been portrayed many times, is because it certainly has many cool elements of mystery, architecture, stealth and mostly combat!

But I would go on another direction in AC, but for a spin off, it would rock!!!!

rain89c
12-05-2011, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
Even if the ancestor IS Asian, that's not much of an issue either.

The Jesuits and the Spanish and Portuguese did a lot of trading between both China AND Japan near the end of the Sengoku Jidai, and the English and Dutch were just starting to arrive. And being so far from home, some took local wives. Hence a simple way for an Asian ancestor to leave their native shores if need be so as not to add too much Asian blood in Desmond's makeup.

You might recall we DID see Mount Fuji depicted on Desmond's cell in AC1.
The Dutch mostly traded in and with Indonesia. We never really had a solid, direct trading relation with China or Japan during those days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You always seem to put china and Japan in a spot where it has to be historically accurate in any way to prevent those settings from being used. But at the same time you are always suggesting a setting that you've never seen before. Tell me how would an unknown setting you know little about work and east Asia (a setting you claim to know) won't work? How would you know those mystery settings will have proper free running rooftops if you don't even know what the setting is?

DavisP92
12-05-2011, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
It don't think we have to justify playing as an Asian ancestor just cuz (i remember someone said this [not exact words]) China didn't really allow anyone to leave or get in. Some Chinese assassins were able to leave and even go back into china. I am starting to understand and sympothize with LightRey's opinion about it is overused. But if Ubisoft can make it work and feel different then all games then i'm done with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
Oh, don't get me wrong. It's not like I'll suddenly boycott AC if it goes to an Eastern Asian setting. Even if they do I expect an amazing game. It's just one of my least favorite settings. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that would be weird if u did that hah. but yea i'd love to see it in china with kung fu, not much i see wrong with if they had kung fu style combat. But i do think if AC wiki is correct then it would be weird to play as a chinese assassin because according to the wiki they didn't use hidden blades (on their arms)

rain89c
12-05-2011, 12:06 PM
I really don't see the problem with a different method for assassinating while retaining the same purpose in the order.
Just that the cover of the book is different but the stories are the same.
There's really no reason to restrict the assassin aesthetics from all around the globe to only one signature way of carrying their operations. Diversity creates uniqueness in each assassin order.

DavisP92
12-05-2011, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
I really don't see the problem with a different method for assassinating while retaining the same purpose in the order.
Just that the cover of the book is different but the stories are the same.
There's really no reason to restrict the assassin aesthetics from all around the globe to only one signature way of carrying their operations. Diversity creates uniqueness in each assassin order.

what kind of assassination methods are u talking about tho?

LightRey
12-05-2011, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
Even if the ancestor IS Asian, that's not much of an issue either.

The Jesuits and the Spanish and Portuguese did a lot of trading between both China AND Japan near the end of the Sengoku Jidai, and the English and Dutch were just starting to arrive. And being so far from home, some took local wives. Hence a simple way for an Asian ancestor to leave their native shores if need be so as not to add too much Asian blood in Desmond's makeup.

You might recall we DID see Mount Fuji depicted on Desmond's cell in AC1.
The Dutch mostly traded in and with Indonesia. We never really had a solid, direct trading relation with China or Japan during those days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You always seem to put china and Japan in a spot where it has to be historically accurate in any way to prevent those settings from being used. But at the same time you are always suggesting a setting that you've never seen before. Tell me how would an unknown setting you know little about work and east Asia (a setting you claim to know) won't work? How would you know those mystery settings will have proper free running rooftops if you don't even know what the setting is? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm just giving a small lecture regarding my homeland's history here, man. Indonesia was a Dutch colony.

I've quite well explained my reasons for disliking an Eastern Asian setting, so I don't see any reason for stating them again.

Kraschman2010
12-05-2011, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
Even if the ancestor IS Asian, that's not much of an issue either.

The Jesuits and the Spanish and Portuguese did a lot of trading between both China AND Japan near the end of the Sengoku Jidai, and the English and Dutch were just starting to arrive. And being so far from home, some took local wives. Hence a simple way for an Asian ancestor to leave their native shores if need be so as not to add too much Asian blood in Desmond's makeup.

You might recall we DID see Mount Fuji depicted on Desmond's cell in AC1.
The Dutch mostly traded in and with Indonesia. We never really had a solid, direct trading relation with China or Japan during those days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You always seem to put china and Japan in a spot where it has to be historically accurate in any way to prevent those settings from being used. But at the same time you are always suggesting a setting that you've never seen before. Tell me how would an unknown setting you know little about work and east Asia (a setting you claim to know) won't work? How would you know those mystery settings will have proper free running rooftops if you don't even know what the setting is? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I also pointed out that trade with the English and Dutch were only STARTING around then. (Incidentally, the book and miniseries Shogun were actually based on real events including Richard Chamberlain's charatcer)

If they can tweak the history of the Templars and Assassins to go back to Alexander and earlier, they certainly can tweak things to make an Asian setting work.

Plus you have Shao Yun with that box Ezio gave her from the Embers movie, and if you think they're not likely to do SOMETHING with that, you guys are likely deluding yourselves.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
I also pointed out that trade with the English and Dutch were only STARTING around then. (Incidentally, the book and miniseries Shogun were actually based on real events including Richard Chamberlain's charatcer)

If they can tweak the history of the Templars and Assassins to go back to Alexander and earlier, they certainly can tweak things to make an Asian setting work.

Plus you have Shao Yun with that box Ezio gave her from the Embers movie, and if you think they're not likely to do SOMETHING with that, you guys are likely deluding yourselves.
Yes, starting in Indonesia (and the English in India), not China or Japan.

As for Shao Jun, you shouldn't try to read that much into it. Gets your head clogged up with lots of random ideas. Shao Jun could very well be nothing more than a simple reference or even just an excuse to show off some kung fu action.

rain89c
12-05-2011, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kraschman2010:
Even if the ancestor IS Asian, that's not much of an issue either.

The Jesuits and the Spanish and Portuguese did a lot of trading between both China AND Japan near the end of the Sengoku Jidai, and the English and Dutch were just starting to arrive. And being so far from home, some took local wives. Hence a simple way for an Asian ancestor to leave their native shores if need be so as not to add too much Asian blood in Desmond's makeup.

You might recall we DID see Mount Fuji depicted on Desmond's cell in AC1.
The Dutch mostly traded in and with Indonesia. We never really had a solid, direct trading relation with China or Japan during those days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You always seem to put china and Japan in a spot where it has to be historically accurate in any way to prevent those settings from being used. But at the same time you are always suggesting a setting that you've never seen before. Tell me how would an unknown setting you know little about work and east Asia (a setting you claim to know) won't work? How would you know those mystery settings will have proper free running rooftops if you don't even know what the setting is? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I also pointed out that trade with the English and Dutch were only STARTING around then. (Incidentally, the book and miniseries Shogun were actually based on real events including Richard Chamberlain's charatcer)

If they can tweak the history of the Templars and Assassins to go back to Alexander and earlier, they certainly can tweak things to make an Asian setting work.

Plus you have Shao Yun with that box Ezio gave her from the Embers movie, and if you think they're not likely to do SOMETHING with that, you guys are likely deluding yourselves. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Man, its pointless talking to the guy. He is heavily biased towards East-Asia no matter what you say to him.
All his reasons for objecting East Asia are always has to be historically accurate or it wont work, and the silly rooftop thingy he claimed wouldn't work for free running.
I mean, you don't see him criticizing the historical accuracy of the fake assassin order in Italy and the Italian buildings when they had these random platforms in the air tweaked just for free running.
But when it comes to Europe or something, he will just say its gonna work, they can just tweak it to make it fit... Total bullcrap excuse, honestly.

xCr0wnedNorris
12-05-2011, 06:37 PM
I wouldn't mind a setting in the Asian/Pacific region. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

rain89c
12-05-2011, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
I really don't see the problem with a different method for assassinating while retaining the same purpose in the order.
Just that the cover of the book is different but the stories are the same.
There's really no reason to restrict the assassin aesthetics from all around the globe to only one signature way of carrying their operations. Diversity creates uniqueness in each assassin order.

what kind of assassination methods are u talking about tho? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm just saying that the hidden blade placement in Shao Jun indicates different method for assassination, and yes it sways away from the signature hidden blade tied to the wrist, but I think the differing ways for assassination for each assassin order is unique.

OculusRed
12-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
Yes, starting in Indonesia (and the English in India), not China or Japan.

As for Shao Jun, you shouldn't try to read that much into it. Gets your head clogged up with lots of random ideas. Shao Jun could very well be nothing more than a simple reference or even just an excuse to show off some kung fu action. Doesn't mean it should be ignored either. They must have had their ideas for ACIII by the time Embers was in production and it would not at all be surprising that it was a hint. Personally I'm hoping for China as the ACIII setting. From what we've heard, the Chinese Assassins are quite different from their European brethren (But not too different) and it'll give us some excuse for refreshing new gameplay. Victorian England is too much of a time jump for me anyway, I want the games to keep moving chronologically forward unless they decide to pull something out of left field and go for ancient Egypt or something.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
Man, its pointless talking to the guy. He is heavily biased towards East-Asia no matter what you say to him.
All his reasons for objecting East Asia are always has to be historically accurate or it wont work, and the silly rooftop thingy he claimed wouldn't work for free running.
I mean, you don't see him criticizing the historical accuracy of the fake assassin order in Italy and the Italian buildings when they had these random platforms in the air tweaked just for free running.
But when it comes to Europe or something, he will just say its gonna work, they can just tweak it to make it fit... Total bullcrap excuse, honestly.
Actually, I really don't like many European settings. I'm pretty much against most Eastern European settings (except maybe Poland and Russia) and anything later than the year 1900 is an absolute no.

You have no idea what my opinions are on the matter because you simply focus only on Asia. Hell, all your posts are about Asia-related topics. I'm willing to bet that every single one of your posts contains at least one of the words (or pictures of) Asia, Japan, China, ninja, samurai or is part of a discussion regarding these subjects.

rain89c
12-05-2011, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Man, its pointless talking to the guy. He is heavily biased towards East-Asia no matter what you say to him.
All his reasons for objecting East Asia are always has to be historically accurate or it wont work, and the silly rooftop thingy he claimed wouldn't work for free running.
I mean, you don't see him criticizing the historical accuracy of the fake assassin order in Italy and the Italian buildings when they had these random platforms in the air tweaked just for free running.
But when it comes to Europe or something, he will just say its gonna work, they can just tweak it to make it fit... Total bullcrap excuse, honestly.
Actually, I really don't like many European settings. I'm pretty much against most Eastern European settings (except maybe Poland and Russia) and anything later than the year 1900 is an absolute no.

You have no idea what my opinions are on the matter because you simply focus only on Asia . Hell, all your posts are about Asia-related topics. I'm willing to bet that Every single one of your posts contains at least one of the words (or pictures of) Asia, Japan, China, ninja, samurai or is part of a discussion regarding these subjects. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If that's the case, that means only one thing. The most important feature in AC3 to me is the SETTING.
I've already gone over this with you multiple times.

and No, you are just too focused on preventing East Asia from being used.

You didn't see me complaining about European cities when I joined.
on the contrary, you are complaining about a setting that haven't even been in production yet.
At least I have given the European settings a try. You have been bashing on a setting that you have yet to even try or seen.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
If that's the case, that means only one thing. The most important feature in AC3 to me is the SETTING.
I've already gone over this with you multiple times.

and No, you are just too focused on preventing East Asia from being used.

You didn't see me complaining about European cities when I joined.
on the contrary, you are complaining about a setting that haven't even been in production yet.
At least I have given the European settings a try. You have been bashing on a setting that you have yet to even try or seen.
If you find the setting so important, why haven't you discussed any alternatives? You pretty much seem to have made up your mind. I haven't seen you even consider settings such as the Aztec Empire during Montezuma's reign, Scandinavia with the Vikings or Australia, all of which have been suggested.

You don't seem to be interested in the setting, you just appear to be interested in Asia. Not that I have anything against that, I just find it hypocritical of you to accuse me of only being interested in European settings, when not only is that not true as I have shown interest in all of the aforementioned settings and others, but it's also something you clearly do yourself regarding Asia.

You have shown little to no respect to your fellow members regarding their opinion on an Asian setting and instead have simply accused us all of being racist, even though you yourself have on many occasions, basically accused European cities of being "all the same".

Oh, and yes I did see you complain about European cities when you joined. You very soon started complaining about how the European setting was getting old and how you found it boring and that was before I had even joined in that first big forum discussion of yours.

rain89c
12-05-2011, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
If that's the case, that means only one thing. The most important feature in AC3 to me is the SETTING.
I've already gone over this with you multiple times.

and No, you are just too focused on preventing East Asia from being used.

You didn't see me complaining about European cities when I joined.
on the contrary, you are complaining about a setting that haven't even been in production yet.
At least I have given the European settings a try. You have been bashing on a setting that you have yet to even try or seen.
If you find the setting so important, why haven't you discussed any alternatives? You pretty much seem to have made up your mind. I haven't seen you even consider settings such as the Aztec Empire during Montezuma's reign, Scandinavia with the Vikings or Australia, all of which have been suggested.

You don't seem to be interested in the setting, you just appear to be interested in Asia. Not that I have anything against that, I just find it hypocritical of you to accuse me of only being interested in European settings, when not only is that not true as I have shown interest in all of the aforementioned settings and others, but it's also something you clearly do yourself regarding Asia.

You have shown little to no respect to your fellow members regarding their opinion on an Asian setting and instead have simply accused us all of being racist, even though you yourself have on many occasions, basically accused European cities of being "all the same".

Oh, and yes I did see you complain about European cities when you joined. You very soon started complaining about how the European setting was getting old and how you found it boring and that was before I had even joined in that first big forum discussion of yours. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
....why in the world would I suggest alternatives if I have already made up my mind what my ideal setting is China/Japan? How do you know that I won't consider Aztec/Scandinavia/etc if you've never seen my opinion for them?

2nd paragraph - I seem to be interested in East - Asia setting, no! DUH , obviously! ... and again, If i haven't made my opinion clear on other settings besides East Asia, how would you even know what I think about them?

The point being here is that : You bash on a setting that has yet to be even made, a setting you've yet to even seen or try. Making silly biased unreasonable excuses to prevent a setting from being used.

Just because I haven't suggested Aztec/Scandinavia/etc doesn't mean I dont consider them, I'm not like you, I haven't bashed on the settings that I have yet to opinion on. Did I ever bashed on the Aztec suggestions? The Egypt settings? NO! I haven't complained about any settings other people suggested . But you on the other hand, have bashed on settings that you have yet to see.

and Yes I complained about European cities right after I finished the games. Did you see me complaining before the game coming out? Exactly, no.
I actually hyped for the game, but after I tried the settings, I just found them less enjoyable compared to AC1. And I have gone through 3 European setting games, so give me break if I dont want another game set in Europe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Do you get it yet?

LightRey
12-05-2011, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
....why in the world would I suggest alternatives if I have already made up my mind what my ideal setting is China/Japan? How do you know that I won't consider Aztec/Scandinavia/etc if you've never seen my opinion for them?

2nd paragraph - I seem to be interested in East - Asia setting, no! DUH , obviously! ... and again, If i haven't made my opinion clear on other settings besides East Asia, how would you even know what I think about them?

The point being here is that : You bash on a setting that has yet to be even made, a setting you've yet to even seen or try.

Just because I haven't suggested Aztec/Scandinavia/etc doesn't mean I dont consider them, I'm not like you, I haven't bashed on the settings that I have yet to opinion on. Did I ever bashed on the Aztec suggestions? The Egypt settings? NO! I havent bashed on any settings that I have not suggested, but you on the other hand, have bashed on settings that you have yet to see.

and Yes I complained about European cities right after I finished the games. Did you see me complaining before the game coming out? Exactly, no.
I actually hyped for the game, but after I tried the settings, I just found them less enjoyable compared to AC1. And I have gone through 3 European setting games, so give me break if I dont want another game set in Europe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Do you get it yet?
No, not suggest alternatives, show interest or at least comment on people who suggest alternatives. Besides, I'm not saying you should do so, I'm saying that's what you're not doing and accusing me of not doing that is both hypocritical and wrong since I most certainly do do that.

I'm not "bashing" the setting, I'm expressing my doubts about how suitable it could be for an AC game and my dislike for such a cliche.

Who said anything about "before the game came out"? You were asking if I had seen you complain about European cities when you joined, which as I said you did.

rain89c
12-05-2011, 07:43 PM
Well, you're expressing BIASED opinions which I believe shouldn't be taken into consideration for the development of AC3.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
Well, you're expressing BIASED opinions which I believe shouldn't be taken into consideration for the development of AC3.
Opinions are by definition biased.

An unbiased opinion is like a living corpse. It's a contradiction.

rain89c
12-05-2011, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Well, you're expressing BIASED opinions which I believe shouldn't be taken into consideration for the development of AC3.
Opinions are by definition biased.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Uh, no.
And opinions can be prejudice-free or biased.

LightRey
12-05-2011, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Well, you're expressing BIASED opinions which I believe shouldn't be taken into consideration for the development of AC3.
Opinions are by definition biased.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Uh, no.
And opinions can be prejudice-free or biased. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, that wouldn't be a biased opinion, that would be a biased basis for said opinion.

Just like results of a statistical analysis can't be biased, but only the samples used for said results.

And you claim I am prejudiced because of what exactly?

rain89c
12-05-2011, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
Well, you're expressing BIASED opinions which I believe shouldn't be taken into consideration for the development of AC3.
Opinions are by definition biased.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Uh, no.
And opinions can be prejudice-free or biased. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, that wouldn't be a biased opinion, that would be a biased basis for said opinion.

Just like results of a statistical analysis can't be biased, but only the samples used for said results.

And you claim I am prejudiced because of what exactly? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It would not be biased if you showed the same "bias-ness/doubts" towards all settings, but you've only shown "bias-ness/doubts" towards East Asia setting, and I've already gone over numerous times about why I think that. No point in repeating, just re-read my previous posts or look at your own post history regarding East Asia setting/other settings.

DavisP92
12-05-2011, 09:38 PM
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/assassins-creed-art-book-big.jpg

I remember this chinese assassin image that came out way back and i thought AC3 was gonna be in china.

@Rain, i don't think i'd like that there aren't any hidden blades on the assassin's wrist. but I'd like to see new animations for assassinations, like the one in here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPRO4jQvtg) at .46-.50. Even the climbing animation was different

rain89c
12-05-2011, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/assassins-creed-art-book-big.jpg

I remember this chinese assassin image that came out way back and i thought AC3 was gonna be in china.

@Rain, i don't think i'd like that there aren't any hidden blades on the assassin's wrist. but I'd like to see new animations for assassinations, like the one in here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPRO4jQvtg) at .46-.50. Even the climbing animation was different
Wow! Cool art piece there, I am interested in where you found that, is it from Deviant Art or from the Encyclopedia or else where?
and I've never seen that trailer before, haha thanks for sharing.

LightRey
12-06-2011, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
It would not be biased if you showed the same "bias-ness/doubts" towards all settings, but you've only shown "bias-ness/doubts" towards East Asia setting, and I've already gone over numerous times about why I think that. No point in repeating, just re-read my previous posts or look at your own post history regarding East Asia setting/other settings.
Bias-ness? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

You haven't told me at any point how I am prejudiced. Tell me, just how am I prejudiced? Which of the specifics of my expectations of an Asian setting is based on wrong or incomplete information and how is said information wrong and incomplete?

DavisP92
12-06-2011, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/assassins-creed-art-book-big.jpg

I remember this chinese assassin image that came out way back and i thought AC3 was gonna be in china.

@Rain, i don't think i'd like that there aren't any hidden blades on the assassin's wrist. but I'd like to see new animations for assassinations, like the one in here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPRO4jQvtg) at .46-.50. Even the climbing animation was different
Wow! Cool art piece there, I am interested in where you found that, is it from Deviant Art or from the Encyclopedia or else where?
and I've never seen that trailer before, haha thanks for sharing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's from that AC art book thing, it was shown i think right before or after ACB. That's when I thought CHina was AC3 hah. have you ever seen the AC1 demo, the very first one? they had some gameplay elements in there that they just put into ACB and ACR First AC Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlSWpjmHf4&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsear ch_query%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%2 6oq%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%26aq%3 Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D606l60 62l0l6517l27l27l0l16l16l1l280l1930l1.4.5l10l0&has_verified=1)

UBOSOFT-Gamer
12-08-2011, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/assassins-creed-art-book-big.jpg

I remember this chinese assassin image that came out way back and i thought AC3 was gonna be in china.

@Rain, i don't think i'd like that there aren't any hidden blades on the assassin's wrist. but I'd like to see new animations for assassinations, like the one in here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPRO4jQvtg) at .46-.50. Even the climbing animation was different
Wow! Cool art piece there, I am interested in where you found that, is it from Deviant Art or from the Encyclopedia or else where?
and I've never seen that trailer before, haha thanks for sharing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's from that AC art book thing, it was shown i think right before or after ACB. That's when I thought CHina was AC3 hah. have you ever seen the AC1 demo, the very first one? they had some gameplay elements in there that they just put into ACB and ACR First AC Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlSWpjmHf4&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsear ch_query%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%2 6oq%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%26aq%3 Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D606l60 62l0l6517l27l27l0l16l16l1l280l1930l1.4.5l10l0&has_verified=1) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

bah! it is well drawn, but i am sure the devs are smart enough to avoid this look.

D.I.D.
12-08-2011, 02:31 PM
There's *some* potential. I've said this before - setting it during the Boxer Rebellion would be perfect, politically and otherwise. That would mean no Shao Jun though, as she would have died hundreds of years prior.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/r...et-72157622725544786 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ralphrepo_photolog/4165839108/in/set-72157622725544786)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2638/4165839108_7e99ec252e.jpg

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2762/4170370548_8189f67eca.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/r...et-72157622725544786 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ralphrepo_photolog/4082676619/in/set-72157622725544786)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3491/4082676619_22761285a2.jpg

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2796/4078832771_e463b498c5.jpg

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2457/4104767782_044844624a.jpg

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2653/4165839278_9771b4faa2.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/r...et-72157622725544786 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ralphrepo_photolog/4172217394/in/set-72157622725544786)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2541/4172217394_f1ded8a9af.jpg

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tarrero
12-08-2011, 05:13 PM
China during the early years of the XX century, ending up with the revolution and overthrowing the Emperor is pretty cool actually.

The problem is the how to handle gunfire and that stuff, but I guess it would force you to go stealth.

I dont have any "problem" wtih Asia, as long as the do not do Edo period or sort of haha.

DavisP92
12-08-2011, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/assassins-creed-art-book-big.jpg

I remember this chinese assassin image that came out way back and i thought AC3 was gonna be in china.

@Rain, i don't think i'd like that there aren't any hidden blades on the assassin's wrist. but I'd like to see new animations for assassinations, like the one in here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPRO4jQvtg) at .46-.50. Even the climbing animation was different
Wow! Cool art piece there, I am interested in where you found that, is it from Deviant Art or from the Encyclopedia or else where?
and I've never seen that trailer before, haha thanks for sharing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's from that AC art book thing, it was shown i think right before or after ACB. That's when I thought CHina was AC3 hah. have you ever seen the AC1 demo, the very first one? they had some gameplay elements in there that they just put into ACB and ACR First AC Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlSWpjmHf4&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsear ch_query%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%2 6oq%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%26aq%3 Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D606l60 62l0l6517l27l27l0l16l16l1l280l1930l1.4.5l10l0&has_verified=1) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

bah! it is well drawn, but i am sure the devs are smart enough to avoid this look. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh i hope they are, it looks cool but i wouldn't want to play with a mechanical arm and a eye patch haha

UBOSOFT-Gamer
12-09-2011, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rain89c:
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http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/assassins-creed-art-book-big.jpg

I remember this chinese assassin image that came out way back and i thought AC3 was gonna be in china.

@Rain, i don't think i'd like that there aren't any hidden blades on the assassin's wrist. but I'd like to see new animations for assassinations, like the one in here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPRO4jQvtg) at .46-.50. Even the climbing animation was different
Wow! Cool art piece there, I am interested in where you found that, is it from Deviant Art or from the Encyclopedia or else where?
and I've never seen that trailer before, haha thanks for sharing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's from that AC art book thing, it was shown i think right before or after ACB. That's when I thought CHina was AC3 hah. have you ever seen the AC1 demo, the very first one? they had some gameplay elements in there that they just put into ACB and ACR First AC Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUlSWpjmHf4&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsear ch_query%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%2 6oq%3DAssassin%2527s%2Bcreed%2Bfirst%2Bdemo%26aq%3 Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D606l60 62l0l6517l27l27l0l16l16l1l280l1930l1.4.5l10l0&has_verified=1) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

bah! it is well drawn, but i am sure the devs are smart enough to avoid this look. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh i hope they are, it looks cool but i wouldn't want to play with a mechanical arm and a eye patch haha </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

haha xD

creedalien
12-09-2011, 12:32 PM
Nice, but no thanks..
AC need middle east, egyipt...

DavisP92
12-09-2011, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by creedalien:
Nice, but no thanks..
AC need middle east, egyipt...

i'm with you there, but if they don't do egypt then i say china just cuz it would look nice. Those robes are sick