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Destroyer110
08-02-2005, 04:05 PM
I hope BOB allows importing of PF+AEP+FB planes. Even though they may not be up to BOB standards, I'm sure it would be a major disappointment for users not to able to this.

I know I would want to import these

(1) Hurricane MK IIb,c (for what-if scenarios)
(2) Hurricane Mk II (field mod) (as above)
(3) IL2 sturmovik (Fairey Battle standin)
(4) Curtis Hawk (for Battle of France)
(5) Blenheim
(6) C-47
(7) P.11c (for Poland campaigns)
(8) H8K1 (as Sunderland standin)
(9) MS410 (for battle of France)

Chuck_Older
08-02-2005, 04:18 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath-

Oleg on BoB-
"I would say we will have way less aircraft in the intial release of BoB. Simply becasue of more detialed things for each aircraft modeling.... Which means time and resources that we may spend for that modeling.

However we will expand the BoB by the way as it is done with the PF... means install stand alone new sim or install this new sim over BoB and to get new experinece....

This is more life-able idea... and for more longer life of the sim on the market...

As well as we like to go by two branches - Single + online with linmited online features and only online sim branch simultaniosly, where on dedicated server will be new events and wars regulating by developer/publisher. It is jut an idea for you in which way we directed now. Not all may happen, but it is ideal thing for which we force all our resources in future, where you will be able to control not only the planes"



So there you go- more detailed aircraft modelling- new game engine

Grue_
08-02-2005, 04:21 PM
I hope you can't import planes into BoB as this will mean the game engine is the same.

The data & info gathered to create the Il-2 models will help speed up the development of BoB models I guess.

VW-IceFire
08-02-2005, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Destroyer110:
I hope BOB allows importing of PF+AEP+FB planes. Even though they may not be up to BOB standards, I'm sure it would be a major disappointment for users not to able to this.

I know I would want to import these

(1) Hurricane MK IIb,c (for what-if scenarios)
(2) Hurricane Mk II (field mod) (as above)
(3) IL2 sturmovik (Fairey Battle standin)
(4) Curtis Hawk (for Battle of France)
(5) Blenheim
(6) C-47
(7) P.11c (for Poland campaigns)
(8) H8K1 (as Sunderland standin)
(9) MS410 (for battle of France)
No it won't...because the engine is totally new. The 3D models that they used have "hooks" where the flight model and the physics/animation models plug into each other. These are totally new and different in BOB as they are re-writing alot.

You can instantly see the difference if you have a look at the damage modeling system where they build the inside of the aircraft as well as the outside. Things are going to be quite different.

Seeing as the timeframe of the game extends from outside of just June to September 1940...its presumable that we'll see Hurricane Mark IIA, IIB, and maybe even IIC as well as other types. Why have standings for aircraft when they may even build them from the start. Fairley Battles, Beaufighters and Blenhiems in new 3D modeling standards are surely present. Infact, we've seen pictures of WIP Beaufighters and I think the Blenhiem. I can't remember if we've seen the Battle.

As for the Battle of France and Battle of Poland...there are two independant groups building the 3D models for just such a scenario. Dewontines, Hawks, and the whole deal...you can count on the possibility of the real aircraft done in top quality for the new game rather than hacked and slashed versions of old.

Destroyer110
08-02-2005, 06:55 PM
Ok, Ok, if the new engine is that good and more life like then I suppose the WOW! factor will leave me smiling and I won't mind the fewer planes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sounds like I'll need to upgrade my Pentium 4 - 2.8GHz, 1G Ram and GeForce FX 5200!

As this game seems to be becoming more for specialists, I wouldn't mind a increase in purchase price if that guarantees it's development to high standards.

Gibbage1
08-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Well I know Oleg wont do any "standins". How many "standins" are in IL2/PF/FB? None. Some users made the He-111 into Betty's, but Oleg is a perfectionist.

Chuck_Older
08-07-2005, 09:13 AM
heck I've turned many Soviet aircraft into IJA aircraft. Oleg leaves the hack work to the hacks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

TUCKIE.JG52
08-08-2005, 12:28 PM
Why import only some planes?

Just import it all, if possible, and slowly replace each old one with the new standard plane when it be possible...
Just an idea...