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joberrick
02-24-2005, 09:38 AM
I know that I read on the dev. forum at netwings that someone was in fact intersted in adding a hook and openable canopy to the stock hurri to make a Sea hurri. Does anyone know if it has been completed or if it will possibly be in 3.05? I think the possible designer was one of Pingu's contacts, so if he has any info that would be awesome. THX for your time.

3.JG51_BigBear
02-24-2005, 04:35 PM
Yeah I saw the same thing over on Netwings a while back. Thread really didn't go anywhere though. Figured I'd give this a BUMP, but I don't think it looks good.

Tooz_69GIAP
02-24-2005, 05:33 PM
I severely doubt it.

p1ngu666
02-24-2005, 05:35 PM
well, first we get swordfish done, then we try to pursaude oleg to give us hurri model so we can make it

im abit light on info for it, so if u got some send it my way

post here, or email me pingu666@ gmail.com http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

joberrick
02-25-2005, 06:41 PM
What kinda info you want, I might be able to some up on google.

jarink
02-25-2005, 09:35 PM
Only if we can have the CAM Hurricat version.
(Catapult Armed Merchant)

Waldo.Pepper
02-26-2005, 03:44 AM
CAM would be great. But I would love ABSOLUTELY LOVE any catapult launched aircraft from say a Cruiser or a Battleship.

p1ngu666
02-26-2005, 08:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by joberrick:
What kinda info you want, I might be able to some up on google. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

any, really
biggest question mark would be the cockpit...
tbh i really cant promise anything, but it would be interesting to get this info together http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

joberrick
02-26-2005, 09:29 AM
Heres some pics. plus linedrawings for Pingu, hope they help: Sorry had to use link, pic. didn't work: Cockpit of Mk.1B (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/books/cockpit/small/Sea%2520Hurricane%2520Mk%2520Ib.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/books/cockpit/small/page_05.htm&h=900&w=628&sz=95&tbnid=q2N98--MPI0J:&tbnh=145&tbnw=101&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSea%2BHurricane%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D) http://letadla.misto.cz/_MAIL_/pict/Hawker2.JPG Restored Mk. 1B (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=640694&WxsIERv=Unjxre%20Frn%20Uheevpnar%201O&WdsYXMg=Gur%20Fuhggyrjbegu%20Gehfg&QtODMg=Byq%20Jneqra%20-%20Ovttyrfjnqr&ERDLTkt=HX%20-%20Ratynaq&ktODMp=Nhthfg%201%2C%202004&BP=1&WNEb25u=Vna%20Jbbqpbpx&xsIERvdWdsY=T-OXGU&MgTUQtODMgKE=Pnaba%2010Q%20VFB100%2C%20Pnaba%20100-400Y%2C%201%2F320gu%2C%20s5.6&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=302&NEb25uZWxs=2004-08-17%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=M7015&O89Dcjdg=PPS%2F41U%2F4013&static=yes&sok=JURER%20%20[nveyvar%20%3D%20%27Gur%20Fuhggyrjbegu%20Gehfg%27%2 9%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=6&prev_id=640695&next_id=638734&size=L)

joberrick
02-26-2005, 09:33 PM
Bump to keep off of pg.2

Beaufort-RAF
02-26-2005, 11:20 PM
Pingu, Buzzsaw from SimHq actually sent some Sea Hurricane documents to Oleg so you could see what stuff he has.

p1ngu666
02-27-2005, 06:43 PM
oks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

btw i took some beufort pics today, ill haveto upload them and others later http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Beaufort-RAF
02-27-2005, 07:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
btw i took some beufort pics today, ill haveto upload them and others later http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Intriguing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Charlie901
02-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Hasn't all development on additional A/C for PF stopped per Oleg? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

joberrick
02-28-2005, 07:45 AM
Darn thats right Charlie901, maybe we could somehow convince him to allow the designers not working on bob to produce downloadable planes that you could fight here or at netwings. The only question is, what is our best defence or reason for asking him?

p1ngu666
02-28-2005, 08:42 AM
itll be easy, and a interesting addition. ive got plans for the hook, and rockets and other oddities http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

oleg wants all models in by "mid march"

ill see if i can dig up the combat history of the sea hurri, from carriers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Beaufort-RAF
02-28-2005, 11:00 AM
Well the ones with rockets were for anti-sub from escort carriers so not really much use for IL2.

So if your stuck for time just the fighter with the hook would be great.

By far most of their combat was in the Med.

The machine gun equipped aircraft would be best as they would cover more ops and from an earlier time.

I've a book by a Sea Hurri pilot who shot down a Ju88 on a Malta convoy and two Dw520's during Operation Torch. (he then switched to Seafires)

CKY_86
02-28-2005, 11:23 AM
i really hope some1 is or will make a sea hurrie , all the work that is needed i think is just the hook

CKY_86
02-28-2005, 12:22 PM
some info on sea hurrie

http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/seahurricane.htm

http://www.zap16.com/mil%20fact/Hawker%20Sea%20Hurricane.htm
http://img238.exs.cx/img238/5476/seahurrie9xl.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

joberrick
02-28-2005, 06:04 PM
I just remembered, Sea hurri's flew off of carriers in I think Murmansk. Murmansk is supposedly a map coming in the next patch. I smell loophole!

SpartanHoplite
02-28-2005, 06:50 PM
Sea Hurris would be sweet... I'm a big Hurri lover. But, not to rain on the parade, but what maps (besides possinbly Murmansk in a minor way) would they be applicable in? I don't know, but I doubt the RN was using them at the end of the war, and we don't have any earlier maps that would work.

Maps are the key!

SH

p1ngu666
02-28-2005, 09:41 PM
it was a brief carrier career, think it was replaced by the spit. theres normandy, the desert, possibly some places in the pacific

theres a decenent potential for them tobe used anywhere there was a coast, as the RN got around afair bit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Beaufort-RAF
03-01-2005, 04:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
it was a brief carrier career, think it was replaced by the spit. theres normandy, the desert, possibly some places in the pacific
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They operated longer than people realise.

I've a book about HMS Vindex and their Hurri's were operational on Russian convoys until September 1944 and there may have been others that served even longer.

As for maps, any stretch of sea, (Coral Sea for example) can be the middle of the Med for Malta convoys and there's the desert map for Operation Torch.

Beaufort-RAF
03-01-2005, 04:13 AM
BTW one thing is that is frustrating is that unlike the other big ships in the FMB there isn't a 'Generic' escort carrier without the number on the deck to use for a British ship. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

harryrriedl
03-01-2005, 10:14 AM
bump

k5054
03-01-2005, 11:11 AM
Perfectly right for the new Murmansk map. Sea Hurris were allowed to use +16lb boost, more than the usual RAF hurri, and this gave a low-alt performance increase which is not in any documented performance data AFAIK. Hurri whiners line up here. We need 16lbs.

Charlie901
03-01-2005, 12:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by joberrick:
Darn thats right Charlie901, maybe we could somehow convince him to allow the designers not working on bob to produce downloadable planes that you could fight here or at netwings. The only question is, what is our best defence or reason for asking him? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



The best way would be to fire off some emails to 1C or Oleg directly. We really need some additions to PF before its lost forever!

Now where's that email address?

Tooz_69GIAP
03-01-2005, 12:14 PM
I'd love to have a Sea Hurri, and Glad, but as far as I am aware, they never ventured further east than the Indian Ocean. So, technically, there is no place for them in PF (if I'm right that is).

But I do want em in the sim!!!

joberrick
03-01-2005, 03:45 PM
Maybe not just for pf, For meged install, it would still technically be in the Eastern/European theater of op. With merge install it would be historical and also still have carrier ops available. FOr me, win win situation.

Charlie901
03-01-2005, 10:53 PM
Hey joberrick,

Is that a screen from a PC game?

If so which one? That B-17 looks pretty sweet!

joberrick
03-02-2005, 07:34 AM
Nope, it's an edited il2 shot that 9th simplex made. It's on I believe pg. 57 on the screenshot post.

Charlie901
03-02-2005, 07:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by joberrick:
Nope, it's an edited il2 shot that 9th simplex made. It's on I believe pg. 57 on the screenshot post. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Very nice!

joberrick
03-03-2005, 08:39 PM
bump

joberrick
03-07-2005, 06:02 PM
Found a ref. site that has additional links on it, some history and info/pics. Ref/pic. link (http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/seahurricane.htm)

p1ngu666
03-07-2005, 07:42 PM
ive got a bunch of stuff to upload, ill do it tomoz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Wolf_Fangs1381
03-07-2005, 09:33 PM
Hello P1ngu666,

I would love to see the Sea Hurricane in PF (non-merged/merged). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But with the deadline only a few weeks away,that doesn't leave much time to complete a Sea Hurricane model. The only way I could see it done is if somebody got the Hurricane Mk1 model from Oleg to make the changes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Nobody is certain of the deadline date,but I keep hearing "Mid March" and that isn't far away. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Have you talked with Oleg about getting the Sea Hurricane into PF? If he gives you (if you'd be doing the changes) a Hurricane model to modify we just may get it. I would get in touch with Oleg and find wether or not it would be worth taking on. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Its the only way I really can see the Sea Hurricane in PF. =S=

P.S. You can count my signature in for the Sea Hurricane. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

joberrick
03-14-2005, 04:30 PM
Been a while since, but was wondering Pingu, has Oleg given you the stock hurri mk.1 model yet? Just curious cause we have'nt heard anything new. THX

Philipscdrw
03-14-2005, 04:44 PM
A Sea Hurricane (dreaming: a Catapult-Equipped Merchantman) would be quite wonderful...