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Goose_Green
04-12-2006, 10:59 AM
Having enjoyed reading both of Clay Blair's excellent volumes on Hitler's U Boat War, The Hunters & The Hunted. I decided to have a look for books that offer the personal side of life onboard a U Boat. The next one I found, and a must for any U Boat enthusiast, waas Iron Coffins by Herbert A Werner. This proved to be fascinating read and I had trouble putting the book down it was that good.

Now I have just had delivered U Boat War Patrol - The hidden Photographic Diary of U 564 commanded by Teddy Suhren. Having just had a quick flick through it contains some amazing photographs from front to back, and chronicles all the different activities those brave seamen endured or enjoyed! The book also contains a fair amount of text too.

Lastly I picked up Teddy Suhren's memoirs Ace of Aces. Which I will start as soon as I have finished reading Stalingrad by Antony Beavor.

So expect a review of both in a few weeks time. For those who are curious, I bought these two from Amazon.co.uk at reduced prices. But, I had to wait about three weeks until I had them in my hands - but looking at them so far - well worth the wait!

Stuntcow
04-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Iron Coffins is a great book. I found myself wanting more details about life on the sub, the depth charge attacks and how they stayed sane. I also read Red Star Rogue. That was a good book as well. Not one mention of evil socks in either book though.

Am waiting on Silent Victory: The U.S. Submarine War Against Japan by Clay Blair Jr.

I spend too much time playing SH3 and not enuff time reading.

Celeon999
04-12-2006, 12:11 PM
Loved Teddy Suhren‚¬īs "Nasses Eichenlaub" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Realjambo
04-12-2006, 02:58 PM
Iron Coffins is a good read, I agree. Teddys Shuren's U Boat Diary I have waiting on my shelf. I am currently gripped by 'Battle of the Atlantic', by Andrew Williams. It gives a superb insight into the U Boat war in the Atlantic from all sides, even survivors of torpedoed liners. I heartily recommend it!

Here's a link for it at Amazon UK.

PS: Goose, great to see your Screenshot sig dude!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563488638/qid.../202-2424456-0184614 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563488638/qid=1144874935/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-2424456-0184614)

VikingGrandad
04-12-2006, 03:10 PM
I have just finished reading "U Boats (Seafarers) Douglas Botting" (ISBN 0809427249) which you can get second hand (very cheap) on Amazon (UK/US). It covers the story of the U-boat from conception through to WW1 and WW2 with many photos, paintings (especially by Claus Bergen) and illustrations.

It is more of a reference book rather than a novel, but does contain lots of superb narrative sections which are very well written. There is a disturbingly vivid description of Prien's Scapa Flow attack, which spares no detail about the experiences of the daring Prien and his crew and also the horrific ways in which the victims on Royal Oak met their end.

I recommend the book to any of you who want to read about the Scapa Flow attack - the other material is equally interesting.

Other U-boat books I've enjoyed and learned much from:

- Lothar-Gunther Bucheim's "U-boat War"
- Wolfgang Hirschfeld's "The Secret Diary of a U-boat"
- Edwin Hoyt's "U-boats - A Pictorial History"

I'm currently reading Bucheim's "Das Boot". So far, I agree with others here in the forum who have said that the book is even better then the film.

I have other books on my Amazon wish list waiting to be read:

- Herbert Werner's "Iron Coffins"
- Teddy Suhren's "Ace of Aces"
- Otto Giese's "Shooting the War: The Memoir and Photographs of a U-Boat Officer in World War II"
- Hans Jacob Goebeler's "Steel Boat, Iron Hearts: A U-Boat Crewman's Life Aboard U-505"

Thanks for the recommendations Goose_Green - I'll add "U-boat War Patrol" and "Hitler's U-boat War" to my list.

Josef_Reiter
04-12-2006, 03:55 PM
Iron Coffins is a great read! Very tragic is Werners tale, not only for the U-boat losses but of his own personal experinces. Wish there were more storys like his out there un-edited.

Rudeltaktik1963
04-13-2006, 07:32 AM
I'd like to suggest as a counter point (particularly to "Das Boot") that you try "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat - a superb (fictional) account of life aboard Flower Class corvettes and River Class frigates on convoy duty. Every bit as moving and as well written as Bucheim's novel.

I'm currently very interested in the WWI U-boat war, and so far have aquired these;

Eberhard Rossler - The evolution and technical hostory of German submarines. (Indispensible refernce material, with great photos and technical plans - good for WWII too)

Moller and Brack - The enyclopedia of U-Boats 1904 to the present. (Nice piccie of modern U31 on the front - Celeon would be pleased!)

Werner Furbringer - Fips; Legenradry U-Boat Commander 1915-18. (Account of a German commander's career)

Edwyn A. Gray - The U-Boat War, 1914-1918. (Good basic account, full of incident and detail).

R. H. Gibson and Maurice Prendergast - The German Submarine War 1914-1918. (Written after WWI, but very much a victor's history. Well worth reading if you can get past the jingoism though).

Trying to get hold of "Raiders of the Deep", a collection of accounts by German U-Boat commanders collected by an American and published between the wars...

Shame there is no WWI total conversion for SHIII!

For a good WWII account, I've nearly finished Erich Topp's "Odessy of a U-boat Commander"...a fascinating and moving personnal account, especially where he deals with the loss of his friend, Endrass.

Happy bedtime reading all!

DarkOmen13
04-13-2006, 10:11 PM
It's my birthday today and i got a good book.
it's called "Wolf Pack, the story of the u-boat in world war 2"
It's got pretty much everything in from all the types to crew training, how the bases were built etc. Not bad.

It nearly makes up for my boat being sunk on my birthday, but not quite.....

D.

TASKFORCE1x1
04-17-2006, 10:07 PM
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Antonin1957
04-18-2006, 04:20 PM
I have a number of U-boat books in my library. Among them:

"U-Boats Destroyed" by Paul Kemp - describes every U-boat sinking in WWI and WWII, giving location, circumstances, commander's name, number of survivors, if any, etc.

"U-Boat Commanders and Crews 1935-45" by Jak Showell - a complete picture of the U-Boat service and its personnel, including a listing of every commander and what boat he commanded, when he commanded it, and his ultimate fate.

U107Wolff
04-22-2006, 10:44 AM
Iron coffins was a nice read, but apparently there are some things that aren't quite correct regarding certain details (according to the critics).
Currently I am readin the book Memoirs: Ten years and 20 days by Karl Doenitz (ISBN 0-306-80764-5).

Some other books in my library I recommend are:

Uboat commander (G√ľnter Prien. ISBN 1 84145 053 -7).

The hunters and the hunted (Jochen Brennecke. ISBN 1-59114-091-9).

Battle beneath the waves (Robert C. Stern. ISBN 0-304-36228-x).

Wolfpack (David Jordan. ISBN 1-86227-158-5).

mariuszj1939
08-21-2006, 05:31 AM
Thank you for some book proposals for vacation.
I read "Iron Coffins" Herbert Werner - v.good book , "Scapa Flow - place of war trasures" Krzysztof Kubiak and finally "A question of Honor - The Kosciuszko sqadron : Forgotten Heroes of World War II" Lynne Olsson and Stanley Cloud.
The last book was the best. I learned much more hidden stories of WWII. You will have quite other view of War, Churchill and Roosevelt. Thanks to American authors.
(I recommend it especialy to all forum members with Polish roots - it's worth having)
http://www.questionofhonor.com/

Bucketlung
08-21-2006, 09:36 AM
A question of Honor looks like a very good book. Thanks for alerting us to it's existance as I hadn't heard about it.

I really wish there was a website that kept a comprehensive list of all WWII books and then gave realistic reviews. It is so hard to know about new ones being published and then all too often I end up reading one that wasn't worth the time or money.

Marriott90
08-21-2006, 03:44 PM
i dont have any u-boat books but i recently bought Soldat: Reflections of a German Soldier. 1936-1949 Its a great book so far

blastomatic1759
08-21-2006, 04:34 PM
so far ive read U-122 , one book about wolfgang luth ( i cant remember the name) and Erich Topps Odyssey of a Uboat Commander. all were pretty good , but ive just started Steel Boat , Iron Hearts (U-505), which seems to be far more interesting than the previous 3 i have read. next to read is the Golden Horseshoe , ive thumbed through that one , and it looks like its going to be a good one as well.

Realjambo
08-21-2006, 04:53 PM
I've just ordered the following, ready for those long winter nights ahead:

German U-Boat Crews, 1914-45 (Histories) [Paperback] by Williamson, Gordon

Memoirs: Ten Years and Twenty Days - Karl Donitz (Cassell Military Paperbacks S.)

Operation Drumbeat: The Dramatic True Story of Germany's First U-boat Attacks

U-boat Bases and Bunkers 1940-45 (Fortress S.) [Paperback] by Williamson

I'm still reading 'Donitz and the Wolf PAcks by Bernard Edwards - really well written and packed with convoy facts and figures. If it's available I'd recommend it. My copy is an ex-library version I found on Amazon.

tuddley3
08-21-2006, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by TASKFORCE1x1:
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Good to see you drop in, I haven't seen you here since I Joined. (Except last week, when you had to close some discussions)

And I apologize to you and the entire "Staff" of my Remarks regarding Sea Wolves.

I need to see more of your Funny Pics like you did awhile ago. We have started a new one kind of, please contribute, you always have the funniest ones.

Bootsmann0815
08-22-2006, 07:34 PM
I like Dan van der Vat, "Stealth at Sea" London: Orion 1994 (paperback '95). Very good introductory text with large WWI section and a bit of pre-1914 history and post-45 developments.

mariuszj1939
08-23-2006, 01:38 AM
I bought book of U-38 Max Valentiner - ace of WWI. Very interesting to learn submarines "old" tactics. Sometimes it's so funny to read how cook from U-boot prepared lunch for own crew on French or Italian ship just before sinking her.
Here is a list - I will buy something interesting soon ...
http://www.ubootwaffe.pl/ksiazki

Goose_Green
08-23-2006, 03:32 AM
I'm suprised that such an old thread has re surfaced (pun un-intended), but I myself have been busy on the book front lately.

Managed to at last get Hirschfeld - A Secret Diary of a U Boat by Wolfgang Hirschfeld

Type VII U Boats by Robert C Stern - lots of good piccies!

U Boat War by Lothar-Gunther Buchheim

Realjambo
08-23-2006, 11:00 AM
I recieved my copy of 'Ten Years and Twenty Days - Doneitz's memoirs tha he wrote in prison today. Can't wait to get stuck into all 509 pages of it. Some good pics in it too I'd not seen before.

One in particular shows him in a cell at Nuremburg in 1945 - man he looks terrible! (mind you I guess he had a lot on his mind eh?)I might dig out my old scanner and post them up (is that legal?)

@ Goose - you'll enjoy Hirschfeld a lot I reckon. I'd be interested to hear what you think of Bucheims' 'U Boat War' when you have read it.

Goose_Green
08-23-2006, 07:55 PM
Just got it in the post today, the book, obviously second hand is in excellent condition and I have had a quick flick through the pages and the photography is outstanding some fantastic shots that were well composed especially with the problems of poor lighting within the U-boat. There is a fair amount of text too.

I will review this one later when I have the chance to get stuck in. I am near the very end of Das Boot, which is an excellent book too.

I'm on holiday soon for a week's sun in Mallorca so I expect to do some chilled out reading on the beach http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hirschfeld is going with me!

Let me know how you get on with Doenitz's book, where did you get it from?

Realjambo
08-24-2006, 07:21 AM
Just searched on Amazon for it Goose tbh. Someone else going on holiday grr!

VikingGrandad
08-24-2006, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
I'm on holiday soon for a week's sun in Mallorca so I expect to do some chilled out reading on the beach http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hirschfeld is going with me!
That's exactly what I did for 10 days in Mallorca last month! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Whereabouts are you going Goose?

You'll really enjoy the Hirschfeld book - it's a lot easier to read than Das Boot but just as exciting and informative.

Goose_Green
08-24-2006, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goose_Green:
I'm on holiday soon for a week's sun in Mallorca so I expect to do some chilled out reading on the beach http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hirschfeld is going with me!
That's exactly what I did for 10 days in Mallorca last month! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Whereabouts are you going Goose?

You'll really enjoy the Hirschfeld book - it's a lot easier to read than Das Boot but just as exciting and informative. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Magalluf, lots of drinking and partying at night and lots of chilling out during the day http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

VikingGrandad
08-24-2006, 07:53 AM
Ah yes, Magalluf - the party capital of Mallorca! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Are you going with Mrs Goose or with 'the lads'?

A day on the beach is the best place to have a hangover http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Goose_Green
08-24-2006, 07:57 AM
A few of my mates, thankfully there is no Mrs. Goose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif but I may meet a future Mrs Goose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

mariuszj1939
09-11-2006, 12:50 AM
I have not seen it on Your lists before.
Just bought "Silent Hunters: German U-Boat Commanders of World War II" Theodore P.Savas

There are six esseys written by colleagues or friends of :
- Engelbert Endrass
- Fritz Guggenberger
- Victor Oehrn
- Karl-Fridrich Merten
- Heinz-Wilhelm Eck
- Ralph Kapitski

Astroboy75
09-15-2006, 08:52 PM
Might I recommend "U-Boats - History, Development and Equipment, 1914-1945" by David Miller?

An excellent reference book for all thing U-Boat http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Also, "U-Boat Aces" by Geoffrey Jones is agood read, with dozens of encounters and incidents all packed into one book in bite-size chapters. It's in the "Fortunes of War" series.

Happy reading http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif