PDA

View Full Version : Taking off the carrier with Napalm... er, not easy as in impossible.



SeaFireLIV
06-30-2005, 11:25 AM
Is it possible? I`ve been choosing Napalm when using the Corsair and I can`t take off of a carrier.

Also, why must I take the fuel pod with Napalm? Was this a requirement in reality? If so I`ll live with it.


This is NOT a whine, so don`t make it one. I`m just trying to see if it`s possible to take off.

new-fherathras
06-30-2005, 11:28 AM
if you want to get off with napalm, you have to drop the fuel canister while on deck, it will fall harmlessly trough the ship and land in the water.

then you just do a normal takeoff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

reverendkrv1972
06-30-2005, 11:30 AM
not tried takig Napalm off a carrier for a while,but you can drop the fueltank before you try taking off....
Ctrl+T is what i use,can't remember if thats default or not...

hope this helps http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Rev

SeaFireLIV
06-30-2005, 11:57 AM
Weird. Just drop the fuel tank thru the ship? Well it sounds like a solution, but not something to help immersion is it? Don`t wanna sound like I`m whining but couldn`t Oleg have thought of a better solution, like simply allowing the player/pilot the option of not taking it? I`m quite surprised... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Guess it`s my only option, then. Thanks for letting me know, guys.

Hrdina
07-01-2005, 08:09 PM
Was napalm ever used from a carrier? Maybe it was only used from a land strip.

BenvZijl
07-02-2005, 12:14 AM
didn't they use JATO bottles to start from a carrier with napalm

FritzGryphon
07-02-2005, 02:44 AM
Only impossible, if carrier is stationary.

I managed a F4UA with napalm and droptank, 100% fuel, from a moving carrier in a rainstorm. Didn't even have to scoot to the back of the deck.

track:

http://members.shaw.ca/evilgryphon4/carrierf4u.zip

EDIT: I also did F4U1D with 2 napalm, droptank and 8 HVARS from a moving carrier in clear weather, and didn't even sink a bit when I went off the deck. It's much easier to do than it was in 3.04.

http://members.shaw.ca/evilgryphon4/f41dtakeoff.zip (http://members.shaw.ca/evilgryphon4/carrierf4u.zip)

Utchoud
07-02-2005, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by Hrdina:
Was napalm ever used from a carrier? Maybe it was only used from a land strip.

I think it was. Joseph Bryan describes in "Aircraft Carrier" some operations of the Yorktown CV-10's air group using napalm in 1945.

SeaFireLIV
07-02-2005, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by FritzGryphon:
Only impossible, if carrier is stationary.

I managed a F4UA with napalm and droptank, 100% fuel, from a moving carrier in a rainstorm. Didn't even have to scoot to the back of the deck.

track:

http://members.shaw.ca/evilgryphon4/carrierf4u.zip

EDIT: I also did F4U1D with 2 napalm, droptank and 8 HVARS from a moving carrier in clear weather, and didn't even sink a bit when I went off the deck. It's much easier to do than it was in 3.04.



I will check your tracks. Maybe they`ll show me how it`s done. I prefer it to dropping fuel tanks thru the ship. THNX.

Tomas_W
07-02-2005, 07:04 AM
I'm trying to do the maths on the F4U1 maximum weapons payload with this reference:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/vougf4u.html

as the main source.

Ok, here we go:
Empty weight:8873lbs
Max take-off weight:13846lbs

Now, i don't know their exact definition of "empty weight" but i'll assume it means:
No .50cal ammo, no fuel, no pilot.

So if we add 2350 rounds of .50cal(i estimate that to weight about 650-700lbs, correct me if i'm wrong),361 US Gallons of internal fuel(i estimate about 7lbs per gallon, 361x7=2527lbs)and a pilot w. gear to about 200lbs. Then we have a 8873+650-700+2527+200lb=12250-12300lb package.

13846-12250 or 12300=1596 or 1546lbs left to carry to reach "max take-off" weight.

So, lets take FritzGryphons example:
F4U1D with 2 154gal Napalmbombs,1 178gal droptank and 8 HVARs, an external load of ~4500lbs.Don't know if it was with 100% fuel since internal fuel amount wasn't stated. If we assume my reference and my weight estimations of fuel, pilot with gear and .50cal ammo weight are both correct, then that's almost 3000lbs more total weight than "max take off weight".

So, should a "max take off weight" of way more than 13846lbs be assumed when taking off from a carrier at full speed,or is my reference incorrect, or is the F4U1 incorrectly modeled in that aspect?