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Warforger
10-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Has anyone used them outside the campaign? I used them in a skirmish with the AI (even the AI doesn't even used them!) to go behind the enemy base and capture an airfield for harassment, and it worked. Haven't tried it online yet though.

InfiniteStates
10-09-2010, 02:48 PM
I did the paratroop rush early in my career, when I used to play as UK. It stops working after about level 10 though (if you're lucky).

I will rarely even bother researching them now, unless I see a glaring opportunity. But even then it's so easy to see them coming and pop out a couple of static AAs and you've wasted the money.

They can be useful to drop hardened infantry into cities or supply depots, but unless your the UK, it's more cost effective to use ground troops.

Axe99
10-09-2010, 03:27 PM
Aye - I don't think I've used them once, although I've sure shot a lot of them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Other than a 'hail Mary' para rush at the start, I think there's potential for them to be useful late game _if_ you're dropping them off to one side under radio silence, for some infiltration (say, on Tank Graveyard), if the main fight is going on the other side, and you think they're a bit light on with recon. But it's a lot of RUSEs, and I much prefer my sneaky flanking attacks with medium tanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

fattoler
10-09-2010, 07:28 PM
They're only really useful for the British, who don't have to research them. However by the endgame all people tend to use tanks and dive bombers leaving infantry in the defensive, in fact, that's the only real use for the paras, setting up defensive ambushes on the enemy's flanks to slow them down.

TheCheeseGuy
10-12-2010, 10:19 AM
The only time i've really used paras is normally at start of games as UK. (Havent played many games) I do that to rush the forests and cities which surround my enemy's base... Then after i reinforce them with ATs and AAs under radio silence to prevent them from being able to expand and take over nearby supply depots.

Joppsta
10-12-2010, 01:45 PM
Paras are a great tool online when used correctly and in moderation, like any other unit. I find they can be pretty good at getting around the flanks of enemies and forcing them to watch thier back. If you can sneak recon around your enemy (usually i do this on D-Day, the German side naturally... harassing them depots is so easy with a greyhound!).. you can do some pretty mean damage against your foes.

Usually if you can keep them busy enough with the paras you can force them into playing more turtle-like. People generally speaking aren't born to multi-task so having to scroll from one side of the map to the other on a console on top of that fact.. it sort of makes your enemies a bit less effective in combat as they have to watch their front and back. The best defense is offense after all!

Just a word of advice on para-dropping though.. don't drop 'em unless you intend to use 'em! If done correctly can be good for ambushes in cities behind enemy lines... hell, I did that to a guy earlier today in 1v1 with regular heavies from the barracks. Got 'em in a town next to his base, stole his forward armour base.. forced him to kill it. Didn't really use recon very effectively at all. Was great! Made him surrender after a fierce defense. He was italy, i was US and the map was the really small one, side by side is the 2v2 name.

He armour *****d too much.. i AT'd him out and then eventually outgunned him with the Supers. Made him surrender when he saw 'em badboys !


Anyway, the key to my post here is that infantry are very effective when used properly and paras are good for getting places your barracks infantry can't.

Deton_van_Zan
10-13-2010, 03:06 AM
para rush works only on noobies

Brenbed
10-14-2010, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by fattoler:
They're only really useful for the British, who don't have to research them. However by the endgame all people tend to use tanks and dive bombers leaving infantry in the defensive, in fact, that's the only real use for the paras, setting up defensive ambushes on the enemy's flanks to slow them down.

I agree, they are great for setting up some Ambushes quickly, because they can get to a specific location much faster than ground troops, which take forever.

They are also very good for setting up ambushes in cities before the enemy can get there...

I research them sometimes just for that reason.

Ground troops are so slow that they become worthless if the area you want to ambush is far away...by the time they get there..the fight has begun and finished

So sometimes I use them quite frequently

But they are super easy to see when they are parachuting from the plane, and it is a slow journey before they touch ground and will usually get KIA if AA guns are nearby

Deton_van_Zan
10-16-2010, 03:37 AM
lol german para are the best lol.. i just vs a guy in elite league and caught him with it ... lol he didnt see it coming and it was gg from there

Brenbed
10-19-2010, 02:58 PM
I just figured out that if you use Paras to attack depots early on you can do some serious damage and slow your opponent down quite a bit...they will either allow their money to go dry or they will have to focus a good amount of attention on getting them back...and Paras move by plane so they can be there before they have enough units to deal with the situation...

Even when they do start pumping out tanks and infantry, they won't be able to just come and rush you...besides it will take time to get the money rolling again even when they manage to recapture them...

Paras are powerful and can decide the match if used right...

Like I said..I just figured out effective ways to use them and still haven't seen all of the possibilities...But let me also say, Pretty much everything they teach you how to use in the campaign will help your overall game and skill...

The way I see it...infantry can lay ambushes, take buildings and depots...or attack AT guns, so having infantry that can be deployed quickly is always a benefit...and they are stronger than light infantry...so they can even be used to defend your own bases and depots if you decide not purchase a barracks in the beginning...

And you can always deploy a recon plane so there is no need to spend your first dollars on barracks at all, which can free up money for an Armor base which can be used to attack them while they are scrambling to get those depots back before going flat broke....

Brenbed
10-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Deton_van_Zan:
para rush works only on noobies

Yes you are right...but a para rush doesn't mean only attacking an HQ...it can mean attacking other areas or setting up some deadly ambushes...near their HQ to slow down rushing tanks..

A para rush used by an experienced player will be coordinated with other units in tank raids and air assaults which can be a perfect time to snatch an HQ while they are stunned...

But to agree with you let me say that a para rush alone...without any other units in a cheap attempt at an easy win...ONLY WORKS ON NOOBS or complete IDIOTS....lol

But always Remember!!! The element of surprise is powerful...

InfiniteStates
10-20-2010, 03:46 AM
Paratroopers on maps with lots of towns are a good way of fencing your opponent in quickly too.

Brenbed
10-20-2010, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by BP_Charlie:
Paratroopers on maps with lots of towns are a good way of fencing your opponent in quickly too.

TRUE...I might have to start doing that...THANKS BP

InfiniteStates
10-20-2010, 05:24 AM
Ooops...
Note to self - don't disclose tactics on forums lol

Brenbed
10-20-2010, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by BP_Charlie:
Ooops...
Note to self - don't disclose tactics on forums lol

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ahhh...I know you won't give me all of your secrets..you have to keep a few for yourself..hahaha..almost like an extra Ace up your sleeve...

You always keep that Ace card and slip it in when nobody is looking...lmao

thunder746
10-20-2010, 09:12 AM
So would you say the british are the best to use elements of paratroopers and elements of other things? because i understand that the british tanks for example are very weak, but the airport is very cheap. basically...

Should I go with using a para& assault strategy (good tanks reccomended) with the British or with someone else like the Germans?

thunder746
10-20-2010, 09:37 AM
Ok this is a bit off topic but I'm just asking about the Eug-virus trophy. I must have been very lucky.. Just to say I'm pretty bad at this game. Havent even tried ranked yet.

Anyway, so I was playing a 2 v 2 match against the germans I think. I was all set to advance but I completely forgot recon. So, obviously, my army was smashed by ambushes of paratroopers. I pushed back but they still had many tanks on the way and air superioty by far. I left some tanks for a suicide mission while I set up a secondary HQ right at the end of the map.

After I had set it up, I put AA down and AT down in the forests to stop them from advancing. suddenly, they both left (either out of frustration at me or because the game was going on for a while they may have had to go) So, I won the game. I then got the Eug-virus trophy. I'm just wondering has anyone else got it?

ruairidh64
10-20-2010, 11:21 AM
In my opinion you should only use paratroopers when playing as UK because they don't have to be researched and you're going to build an airfield anyway.

PS Don't build a barracks as UK unless you're getting tank destroyer rushed as you can use paratroopers for most infantry needs, and UK don't have recon in their barracks.

InfiniteStates
10-20-2010, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by thunder746:
...suddenly, they both left (either out of frustration at me or because the game was going on for a while they may have had to go) So, I won the game. I then got the Eug-virus trophy. I'm just wondering has anyone else got it?
Yeah, it seems the developers re-seeded it and I think anyone who plays online has it now. Sounds like you disconnected if they both left at the same time... But the game gives you the benefit of the doubt with a win (although it resets any win streak, annoyingly).


Originally posted by ruairidh64:
In my opinion you should only use paratroopers when playing as UK because they don't have to be researched and you're going to build an airfield anyway.
Yep, this ^

Paratroopers are units of opportunity, but unless you have them researched or are playing UK, you can't really make the most of opportunities.