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blazefp
08-08-2011, 09:10 AM
Ok I tried to search for a previous thread about this but I couldn't find any so sry if this was already answered.

As some of you might know, I'm trying to decode ALL the hidden messages, pictures meanings and stuff like that. In my honest opinion, I'm doing a pretty good job, however I can't find any decent decoder or the meanings of the numbers in Cluster 7.

Here they are:

Animus voice: “Sacnning…Scanning…Scanning. What is the purpose of all this? 30. 476. 1337. 1431. 1520. 1776. 1861. 1914. 1929. 1939. 1945. 1950. 1955. 1962. 1990. 1994. 1995. 2001. It does not make sense. It does not make sense. Emotion-centers activated. Now I understand.”

Image with the 5 judges: “101, 270, 156, 264, 50, 262, 94, 301, 192, 295, 263, 284, 168.”

Image with Don Evans: “251, 280, 53, 107, 181, 254, 274, 133, 184, 24, 223, 214, 9, 291, 284, 259, 267, 234, 136, 255, 279, 203, 129, 88, 162, 8, 28, 79, 102, 147, 48, 204, 202, 192, 41, 225, 263, 242.”

Image with Condoleeza Rice: “Row, row, row, your BOAT.” [WTF???]

Image with Paul Wolfowitz: “230, 129, 213, 218, 251, 261, 194, 35, 11, 263, 9, 261, 203, 214, 225, 77, 192, 153, 67, 20, 280, 241, 143, 20, 251, 221, 114, 254, 159, 121, 81, 279, 47, 61, 169.”

Image with **** Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld: “GILD $7.45 2001, $84 2007.”
“24, 4, 113, 2, 77, 30, 46, 10, 37, 81, 58, 187, 167, 198, 99, 56, 100, 181, 124, 81, 11, 9, 166, 3, 77, 42, 200, 101, 223.”
[This one I believe it's important. GILD is probably a password. It's also Donald Rumsfeld's company - "a summary for Gilead Science". $7.45 may be the cost of each stock of GILD in 2001 and $84 is the same for 2007. But this I can't be sure without the numerical codes decoded]

Image with G. W. Bush: : 1 2 3
We the people

["We the people" is some kind of a decree, I'm not quite sure yet]


I've found some other stuff in this cluster but not that interesting so I don't need to post it yet.

If anyone knows some decoder for this stuff, please post it, I couldn't find anyone.

I've also find some letters. I don't know it's order because I don't know which picture is the first. Here it goes:

M 9 R C 3 70 Z NK



As for the messages and dates, any help in that way is appreciated.
Thank you for reading this

naran6142
08-08-2011, 10:21 AM
for the animus voice part: the numbers are clearly dates. they line up with a lot of important event

30- year jesus was crucified
1337- start of hundred year war
1431- jone of arc was burnt at the stake
1776- american revolution
1914- end of WWI
1939- beginning of WWII
1945- first nuclear used in war
1962- cuban missile crisis
1995- world trade centre is built(or its location chosen, dont remember)
2001- 9/11

these were the first things to come up when i typed in the dates to google(i no I'm missing a few)

a lot of these are related to politics which is kinda how the templars try and control the world, maybe these dates were key moments for the templars

also jone of arc supposedly heard voices from above, maybe she had a piece of Eden

as for the other numbers i let one of those genius guys on the forum figure that out, cuz i have no idea where to start

twenty_glyphs
08-08-2011, 11:00 AM
I believe every message has already been decoded and is available in this long thread: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox36...04&pid=996093&page=0 (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassins-creed-brotherhood/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-57218904&pid=996093&page=0).

"We the people" are the first words of the United States Constitution, and the long lists of numbers are numbers that correspond to words in that document. To decode them, you find that word and insert the first letter of that word in place of the number. It's a type of book cipher. It's been documented on the wiki for Cluster 7 (choose the "2" tab under Cluster 7): http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Rifts#Cluster_7.

The "M 9 R C 3 70 Z NK" letters and numbers are supposed to be clues to the code wheel. I believe it helps you find which of those is missing from the code wheel so you can fill them in and solve it.

ThaWhistle
08-08-2011, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by naran6142:
for the animus voice part: the numbers are clearly dates. they line up with a lot of important event

30- year jesus was crucified
1337- start of hundred year war
1431- jone of arc was burnt at the stake
1776- american revolution
1914- end of WWI
1939- beginning of WWII
1945- first nuclear used in war
1962- cuban missile crisis
1995- world trade centre is built(or its location chosen, dont remember)
2001- 9/11

these were the first things to come up when i typed in the dates to google(i no I'm missing a few)

a lot of these are related to politics which is kinda how the templars try and control the world, maybe these dates were key moments for the templars

also jone of arc supposedly heard voices from above, maybe she had a piece of Eden

as for the other numbers i let one of those genius guys on the forum figure that out, cuz i have no idea where to start

the World Trade Center was built in the early 70s. in 1995 there was that crap in the balkans though.

and 1914 was the beginning of WWI

ThaWhistle
08-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by blazefp:
Ok I tried to search for a previous thread about this but I couldn't find any so sry if this was already answered.

As some of you might know, I'm trying to decode ALL the hidden messages, pictures meanings and stuff like that. In my honest opinion, I'm doing a pretty good job, however I can't find any decent decoder or the meanings of the numbers in Cluster 7.

Here they are:

Animus voice: “Sacnning…Scanning…Scanning. What is the purpose of all this? 30. 476. 1337. 1431. 1520. 1776. 1861. 1914. 1929. 1939. 1945. 1950. 1955. 1962. 1990. 1994. 1995. 2001. It does not make sense. It does not make sense. Emotion-centers activated. Now I understand.”

Image with the 5 judges: “101, 270, 156, 264, 50, 262, 94, 301, 192, 295, 263, 284, 168.”

Image with Don Evans: “251, 280, 53, 107, 181, 254, 274, 133, 184, 24, 223, 214, 9, 291, 284, 259, 267, 234, 136, 255, 279, 203, 129, 88, 162, 8, 28, 79, 102, 147, 48, 204, 202, 192, 41, 225, 263, 242.”

Image with Condoleeza Rice: “Row, row, row, your BOAT.” [WTF???]

Image with Paul Wolfowitz: “230, 129, 213, 218, 251, 261, 194, 35, 11, 263, 9, 261, 203, 214, 225, 77, 192, 153, 67, 20, 280, 241, 143, 20, 251, 221, 114, 254, 159, 121, 81, 279, 47, 61, 169.”

Image with **** Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld: “GILD $7.45 2001, $84 2007.”
“24, 4, 113, 2, 77, 30, 46, 10, 37, 81, 58, 187, 167, 198, 99, 56, 100, 181, 124, 81, 11, 9, 166, 3, 77, 42, 200, 101, 223.”
[This one I believe it's important. GILD is probably a password. It's also Donald Rumsfeld's company - "a summary for Gilead Science". $7.45 may be the cost of each stock of GILD in 2001 and $84 is the same for 2007. But this I can't be sure without the numerical codes decoded]

Image with G. W. Bush: : 1 2 3
We the people

["We the people" is some kind of a decree, I'm not quite sure yet]


I've found some other stuff in this cluster but not that interesting so I don't need to post it yet.

If anyone knows some decoder for this stuff, please post it, I couldn't find anyone.

I've also find some letters. I don't know it's order because I don't know which picture is the first. Here it goes:

M 9 R C 3 70 Z NK



As for the messages and dates, any help in that way is appreciated.
Thank you for reading this


GILD - Gilead's ticker symbol.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:GILD#

the 2007 price is incorrect though, it never got that high.

also, 476 is the fall of the western roman empire, 1950 is the korean war, 1955 could be a few things, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1955

we the people are the first 3 words of hte US constitution

naran6142
08-08-2011, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by naran6142:
for the animus voice part: the numbers are clearly dates. they line up with a lot of important event

30- year jesus was crucified
1337- start of hundred year war
1431- jone of arc was burnt at the stake
1776- american revolution
1914- end of WWI
1939- beginning of WWII
1945- first nuclear used in war
1962- cuban missile crisis
1995- world trade centre is built(or its location chosen, dont remember)
2001- 9/11

these were the first things to come up when i typed in the dates to google(i no I'm missing a few)

a lot of these are related to politics which is kinda how the templars try and control the world, maybe these dates were key moments for the templars

also jone of arc supposedly heard voices from above, maybe she had a piece of Eden

as for the other numbers i let one of those genius guys on the forum figure that out, cuz i have no idea where to start

the World Trade Center was built in the early 70s. in 1995 there was that crap in the balkans though.

and 1914 was the beginning of WWI </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

woops you would think that i would remember when WWI started, i feel kinda stupid now.

i got the world trade center stuff from the internet. never trust wikipedia http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

it will be interesting to see the connection between all of these events

Subject_4
08-08-2011, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by blazefp:

Image with Condoleeza Rice: “Row, row, row, your BOAT.” [WTF???]


Chevron, for unspecified reasons, honored Rice by naming an oil tanker Condoleezza Rice after her, but controversy led to its being renamed Altair Voyager.

Subject 4

blazefp
08-08-2011, 03:20 PM
Thank you all. I've now found how to decode the messages. We just have to look for the words in the U.S. Constitution with that number. I mean "The way to decode it is by relating each number to a word on the U.S. Constitution and taking the first letter of that word."

Subject_4
08-08-2011, 03:23 PM
It may be that I miscounted, I do not get anything particularly readable:

common of most the representatives and constitution to ourselves representatives shall respective and number the granted of this a representative form order and people representatives and persons in actual

at this point I stopped, it is not going to make more sense, but maybe I did not count right.

Subject 4

twenty_glyphs
08-08-2011, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Subject_4:
It may be that I miscounted, I do not get anything particularly readable:

common of most the representatives and constitution to ourselves representatives shall respective and number the granted of this a representative form order and people representatives and persons in actual

at this point I stopped, it is not going to make more sense, but maybe I did not count right.

Subject 4

From the wiki:

On the George W. Bush picture is a message with the words "We the people..." marked as "1 2 3". The way to decode it is by relating each number to a word on the U.S. Constitution and taking the first letter of that word.

230, 129, 213, 218, 251, 261, 194, 35, 11, 263, 9, 261, 203, 214, 225, 77: 192, 153, 67, 20, 280, 241, 143, 20, 251, 221, 114, 254, 159, 121, 81, 279, 47, 61, 169. = The final frontier: Destruction as profit.

24, 4, 113, 2, 77, 30, 46, 10, 37, 81, 58, 187, 167, 198, 99, 56, 100, 181, 124, 81, 11, 9, 166, 3, 77, 42, 200, 101, 223. = Contractors ran the war for profit. (There seems to be an issue with this decoding, when decoded it actually reads Comtractors instead of Contractors.)

251, 280, 53, 107, 181, 254, 274, 133, 183, 24, 223, 214, 9, 291, 284, 259, 267, 234, 136, 255, 279, 203, 129, 88, 162, 8, 28, 79, 102, 147, 48, 204, 202, 192, 41, 225, 263, 242. = Iraq was auctioned off to the highest bidders.

Mikatsuki95
08-08-2011, 03:47 PM
I'm not sure if they were trying to make the game fun when they invented the truth or secretly teach us stuff.

Subject_4
08-08-2011, 07:18 PM
Yes I see now I was on the right path, but I had no idea it was just the first letter of each word.

It is relatively common to have one letter in these things that is wrong or incorrectly capitalized.

Subject 4

twenty_glyphs
08-08-2011, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Subject_4:
It is relatively common to have one letter in these things that is wrong or incorrectly capitalized.

Yes, they often have little errors in the secret messages, so that can throw you off. I don't know if it's on purpose to reflect Subject 16 being in a hurry or less than sane or just an oversight. I've also heard of sometimes intentionally misspelling words in encrypted messages because it can throw off code breakers trying to spot patterns and looking for normal English syntax. Cluster 10 has a few capitalization errors in its Periodic Table encoding, like having "Mg" for Magnesium show up as "MG". I spent a while looking for elements "M" and "G" before I realized the error.

Warforger
08-09-2011, 12:47 PM
On a side note has anyone played the music on the fall of the Soviet Union cluster?

ThaWhistle
08-09-2011, 01:04 PM
I thought someone recorded it and it wasn't anyhting recognizable, but likely a cypher instead.

twenty_glyphs
08-09-2011, 05:29 PM
It's definitely a type of cipher I've never seen before. According to the Gamespot forum I linked earlier, the quarter notes and half notes both represent different letters of the alphabet. I've labelled the notes on the staff to how they should be decoded according to this.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6711/musiccipherkey.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/musiccipherkey.png/)

It's supposed to have gotten the following translations, but I haven't tried it myself:


APARTMENT BOMBINGS START CHECHEN WAR, ELECT PUTIN. ALL PLANNED BY ABSTERGO.

BRETTON WOODS BEGAN IT. THE IMF DELIVERS.

THE MOST FAVORABLE CONDITION FOR REFORM IS A WEARY PUBLIC.

blazefp
08-10-2011, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
It's definitely a type of cipher I've never seen before. According to the Gamespot forum I linked earlier, the quarter notes and half notes both represent different letters of the alphabet. I've labelled the notes on the staff to how they should be decoded according to this.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6711/musiccipherkey.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/musiccipherkey.png/)

It's supposed to have gotten the following translations, but I haven't tried it myself:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">APARTMENT BOMBINGS START CHECHEN WAR, ELECT PUTIN. ALL PLANNED BY ABSTERGO.

BRETTON WOODS BEGAN IT. THE IMF DELIVERS.

THE MOST FAVORABLE CONDITION FOR REFORM IS A WEARY PUBLIC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

F****** good work. Thx, I only thought it was a song that had some kind of a history related with this stuff

Tzeentch_859
08-10-2011, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Subject_4:
It may be that I miscounted, I do not get anything particularly readable:

common of most the representatives and constitution to ourselves representatives shall respective and number the granted of this a representative form order and people representatives and persons in actual

at this point I stopped, it is not going to make more sense, but maybe I did not count right.

Subject 4

From the wiki:

On the George W. Bush picture is a message with the words "We the people..." marked as "1 2 3". The way to decode it is by relating each number to a word on the U.S. Constitution and taking the first letter of that word.

230, 129, 213, 218, 251, 261, 194, 35, 11, 263, 9, 261, 203, 214, 225, 77: 192, 153, 67, 20, 280, 241, 143, 20, 251, 221, 114, 254, 159, 121, 81, 279, 47, 61, 169. = The final frontier: Destruction as profit.

24, 4, 113, 2, 77, 30, 46, 10, 37, 81, 58, 187, 167, 198, 99, 56, 100, 181, 124, 81, 11, 9, 166, 3, 77, 42, 200, 101, 223. = Contractors ran the war for profit. (There seems to be an issue with this decoding, when decoded it actually reads Comtractors instead of Contractors.)

251, 280, 53, 107, 181, 254, 274, 133, 183, 24, 223, 214, 9, 291, 284, 259, 267, 234, 136, 255, 279, 203, 129, 88, 162, 8, 28, 79, 102, 147, 48, 204, 202, 192, 41, 225, 263, 242. = Iraq was auctioned off to the highest bidders. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Sounds like a 'one time pad'. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif