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The190Flyer
02-08-2005, 07:23 AM
STUKA BOMBING, I haven't really been serious about bombing too much, but just recently I decided to try a hand at it, and may I say it's GREAT. I never thought I could have so much fun dive bombing at an armored column. Now I have been dive bombing with Stuka's,190's, 109's, P-47's and P-51's. Getting accurate, it will just take a little time,also getting better at gunning enemy planes behind me taking them out of the fight rather quickly! When online I don't like to vulch very much, but in my Stuka, I will attack a plane taxing to take off. When I hit them with a 500 pounder, watch the explicatives fly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif! If you guys haven't tried it (which I'm sure most of you have) you need to try it because it is a blast! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

S! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

a.k.a. BIFF P-51 PILOT in ubi.com lobbies

The190Flyer
02-08-2005, 07:23 AM
STUKA BOMBING, I haven't really been serious about bombing too much, but just recently I decided to try a hand at it, and may I say it's GREAT. I never thought I could have so much fun dive bombing at an armored column. Now I have been dive bombing with Stuka's,190's, 109's, P-47's and P-51's. Getting accurate, it will just take a little time,also getting better at gunning enemy planes behind me taking them out of the fight rather quickly! When online I don't like to vulch very much, but in my Stuka, I will attack a plane taxing to take off. When I hit them with a 500 pounder, watch the explicatives fly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif! If you guys haven't tried it (which I'm sure most of you have) you need to try it because it is a blast! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

S! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

a.k.a. BIFF P-51 PILOT in ubi.com lobbies

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-08-2005, 07:33 AM
Don't forget the Val and SBD!

Ground-pounding in general is almost a "niche" society and the guys that are good at it are REALLY good at it. I took some time to learn some of the bombsight setup in the bigger birds and decided I'd stick with occassional divebombing as well. A long, slow flight into enemy territory only to get rammed in the middle of my run was just too much after the 50th time.

These dive-bombers can be quite challenging to sneak in, climb to alt, line up on the target, hit it and get out fast. They're easy to fly, but a challenge to fly well and get back home.


TB

sunflower1
02-08-2005, 07:42 AM
Don't forget the Sturmovik, Me 110, Beaufighter, A20.......

The190Flyer
02-08-2005, 07:50 AM
Well said Thunderbolt. I've havent really took the time to use the medium bombers (B-25, He-111) How could I forget the Dauntless http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif, havent used the Val, I'll have to make a mission and add it in the planeset. Flying Jabo's into enemy territorry isn't very bad if you have an escort, but getting back to home base is definetly a challenge!

S! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

a.k.a. BIFF P-51 PILOT in ubi.com lobbies

DangerForward
02-08-2005, 08:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The190Flyer:
Well said Thunderbolt. I've havent really took the time to use the medium bombers (B-25, He-111) How could I forget the Dauntless http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif, havent used the Val, I'll have to make a mission and add it in the planeset. Flying Jabo's into enemy territorry isn't very bad if you have an escort, but getting back to home base is definetly a challenge!

S! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

a.k.a. BIFF P-51 PILOT in ubi.com lobbies <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Level bombing is a lot of fun too. The B25 is really easy to do it in as the bombardier has a TAS indicator in his station. I love seeing the explosions walk all over the target.

jensenpark
02-08-2005, 10:01 AM
Hate to say it but the Val is a blast as well...some reason I like it better than the Dauntless.

Was on the Wildcat/Zero server last night with it and some good/smart Zero drivers actually escorted me out of a few hot zones so I could blast some Red ships. It was great - they followed me to a safe spot then turned back to help others.

I've always liked the Ju 87 and had lots of fun on some missions on GG with it.

Jaws2002
02-08-2005, 12:52 PM
I have the most fun sniping tanks with big guns. Flying Il-2 M with 37mm, Stuka G, or 110 with only one Bk3.7 is a blast. Online is cool to win a mission with one or two planes just blasting tanks. Buy the time the enemy fighter jocks wake up is game over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

p1ngu666
02-08-2005, 02:42 PM
yeah i gotta spend some more time in stuka http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

i dont mind being vulched by a ground attack plane, but its lame if its a fighter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Hendley
02-08-2005, 07:32 PM
Oh yeah, the Stuka, my favorite ride! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That was the first plane I learned to fly, dive bombing was the first skill I learned, and my first 3 months online was spent flying the small bombers exclusively.

The Val and SBD are nice too, but the Stuka is the purest expression of the 90-degree screamer class (heck, it even has a siren http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

Taking a Stuka online is a challenge, but really satisfying when you survive a mission. And if you can avoid fighters on the way in, a well-placed 1,000kg bomb or too can really make your score look good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (and dive bombers do nothing if not place bombs well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

3.JG51_BigBear
02-08-2005, 07:50 PM
The Stuka kicks all forms of A$$. The A-20 is slowly edging it out as my favorite bomber but there's nothing like going into a vertical dive, siren wailing, and dropping 500KG of hurt on the enemy.

Yog_Shoggoth
02-08-2005, 07:57 PM
I don't know though, do you really need that dauntless when a corsair can carry 1000lbswith two tiny tims? You guy weren't really attached to that carrier, were you?

VF-29_Sandman
02-08-2005, 07:59 PM
the most accurate dive bomber is the stuka...be sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Akronnick
02-08-2005, 08:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yog_Shoggoth:
I don't know though, do you really need that dauntless when a corsair can carry 1000lbswith two tiny tims? You guy weren't _really_ attached to that carrier, were you? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By the time the Corsair was in frontline service, most of the dive bombing was being done by the SB2C.

corvette93
02-08-2005, 09:42 PM
The Stuka is a leisurely approach to mayhem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Stiglr
02-08-2005, 10:14 PM
In my mind, I separate a dive bomber like a Val, SBD or Stuka from a "low fast" attack plane like a Sturmo, A-20 or (at times) B-25. They're two different mission profiles.

I really like divebombing, it's a guilty pleasure, although it is sometimes hard to relegate yourself to chugging along so slowly and so defenseless, and getting (usually) one drop and then you run for your life. I sometimes use Stuka runs after I screw up in a 109, just to slooooooow myself down a bit.

Question about the Val: is it difficult to get a 90 degree drop in a Val, or will it start to pick up its nose around 70 degrees like other sims' Vals? In Warbirds I found it VERY hard to be accurate in a Val, whereas I've always been accurate with Stukas.

WTE_Galway
02-08-2005, 10:18 PM
there is always the IAR81

though most variants did not even get the dive racks fitted

buglord
02-08-2005, 10:45 PM
You have gotta try dive bombing in a b25 , much fun. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/mrbuglord-myskinad.jpg

Hendley
02-08-2005, 10:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
Question about the Val: is it difficult to get a 90 degree drop in a Val, or will it start to pick up its nose around 70 degrees like other sims' Vals? In Warbirds I found it VERY hard to be accurate in a Val, whereas I've always been accurate with Stukas. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I find it's a LOT harder to go vertical in either the Val or SBD than the Stuka. The Ju87 seems right at home at 90 degrees; the other planes are a lot twitchier, and if you force the nose (which you find yourself doing to get to the perpindicular) you start to rotate around the target and it becomes difficult to line up--at least, that's what I find. 70 or so degrees seems more natural, which is how it was in RL, I believe (USN and IJN diving at 80 and 70 degrees, respectively.)

BTW, agree with the distinction between the shallow bombing of a-20s, Jabo etc. Coming in way high directly and dropping vertically onto the target and staying low and attacking with a shallow dive are quite different operations--although the Stuka works for the latter quite well too. You at least avoid the half-hour climb to 3000 metres... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dolemite-
02-09-2005, 01:24 AM
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WTE_Ibis
02-09-2005, 01:44 AM
For me the Beaufighter reigns supreme for shipping and ground strikes,rockets or bombs ships are toast.

LordOliver
02-09-2005, 10:44 AM
Yes... Yes! Come over to the dark side.

Fehler
02-09-2005, 03:57 PM
This is why I cannot wait for the JU-88!

Divebombing in something that you can actually survive in will be very nice indeed!