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PACIFICFIRE
02-11-2005, 03:54 PM
Flyable Pe-2 only for russian on CD for 100 roubles (~$3.50). And how all other players? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

PACIFICFIRE
02-11-2005, 03:54 PM
Flyable Pe-2 only for russian on CD for 100 roubles (~$3.50). And how all other players? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

3.JG51_BigBear
02-11-2005, 04:08 PM
That's a bummer. I bet Oleg has some sort of exclusivity agreement with his Russian distributor for that plane (just a thought).

SlickStick
02-11-2005, 04:15 PM
Am I missing something? How can the Russian version have a flyable that other versions cannot and still be compatible for online play? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Seahawk89
02-11-2005, 04:21 PM
Would appear that we will be waving goodbye to our Russian friends online. Like everything else right now, we will have to wait and see what happens.

Spitf_ACE
02-11-2005, 04:49 PM
From Oleg:

"at first it will meet only Russain market (CDs), but then possibly western (after full beta test on russian market http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ). Sorry for this, but its not my decision or politic. "

3.JG51_BigBear
02-11-2005, 04:51 PM
Yeah everything is maybe or might be. I bet there is a way to have two different versions of the game be compatible with one another, maybe just turn the Pe-2 off somehow in the Russian version while playing on other game version servers or release yet another version of the game completely. They would have PF, PFm, and PFRussiansOnly with the Pe2 and some other 1946 Soviet planes that have been alluded to earlier.

Obi_Kwiet
02-11-2005, 04:57 PM
Would the CD work with the western version?

fherathras
02-11-2005, 05:16 PM
b¦sj! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

IV_JG51_Razor
02-11-2005, 06:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Am I missing something? How can the Russian version have a flyable that other versions cannot and still be compatible for online play? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I'm not mistaken, the last patch had something in the readme about it making the Russian version compatible with the rest of the world. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

EDIT: My bad, it was 3.03 that did that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SlickStick
02-11-2005, 08:26 PM
Ah, OK...but I thought the Russian version was always compatible and was what most Russians actually flew??

I'm still confused...a little. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

IV_JG51_Razor
02-11-2005, 09:38 PM
Well, so am I, but I think Oleg likes it that way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The only thing I can figure is, if you're online with a Russian server, the PE-2s you see in the game might actually be flown by human pilots. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Badsight.
02-11-2005, 09:50 PM
different versions of FB/PF are not compatible

saying that they will be is no-proof panic posting

DDad
02-11-2005, 09:53 PM
Just a reminder- 1C is the distributor in Russia- so what I suspect is that UBI doesn't want it here for whatever reason

Badsight.
02-11-2005, 09:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ah, OK...but I thought the Russian version was always compatible and was what most Russians actually flew??

I'm still confused...a little. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
germans also have their "own" version , as in the language is "DE"

http://img146.exs.cx/img146/2355/yay222german9uk.jpg

Badsight.
02-11-2005, 09:57 PM
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/402/yay222russian4zg.jpg

3.JG51_BigBear
02-11-2005, 10:05 PM
So all we need to do is find a place to order the CDs that will ship to the States, UK, etc. and we'll be in business?

SlickStick
02-11-2005, 11:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Badsight.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Ah, OK...but I thought the Russian version was always compatible and was what most Russians actually flew??

I'm still confused...a little. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
germans also have their "own" version , as in the language is "DE"

http://img146.exs.cx/img146/2355/yay222german9uk.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, but all the different language versions were still compatible online, no? Because they had the same content, I thought.

Badsight.
02-12-2005, 12:49 AM
all different language versions have to be the same FB version to be able to join your room

2.04 cant join 3.04 even if its the same language or if its a different language

the CIS Add-On will make their game a new version . . . .. . probably

every time the SFS file is altered & re-compiled , its a new SFS file version , it cant be modified & stay the same . . . . . or so i have taken the hackers posts in the past to mean

was FB the same version after AEP was installed ?

i mean can we say panic posting ?

madsarmy
02-12-2005, 01:48 AM
PACIFICFIRE types in his next posthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/tommybomb/Riddeling.jpg

Badsight.
02-12-2005, 02:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
Am I missing something? How can the Russian version have a flyable that other versions cannot and still be compatible for online play? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i think i realise whats going on . . . .

the Russian FB players are sometime soon going to be able to buy a new add-on for FB

its only going to be released in the CIS states which 1C has release control over & UBI doesnt

they presently have had a couple of releases so far that the rest of the world has not been included on , but these CIS state only add-on's were in the same class as the BOE add-on , i.e. just campaigns missions & skins

this coming release is going to be different , its new planes & gawd knows what else

its more-than-likely going to be a SFS file version all its own & therefore in-compatible with everyone elses FB

LeadSpitter_
02-12-2005, 04:16 AM
why was his post edited? I wanted to see this info he typed, he speaks both russian and english and its nice of him to let us know whats going on in the russian forums and information which we are not getting at all!!!

And after paying $130 for this series

il2 sturmovik 30
FB 30
aep 30
PF 40

we cant get these planes for free and included for all version wtf is happening? and wtf is 1c and ubi team thinking, we paid alot for this series and we are going to have to pay 40 when bob is out and most likely 30 for the battle of france edition and 30 for the battle of poland addition.

wtf is happening with this stuff let you customers know!

indylavi
02-12-2005, 05:14 AM
Leadspitter, the best I can think to decribe it is this.

I think Oleg has a multi-region deal with the IL2 series. Meaning, that different publishers distribute (and/or fund) his project to each region. UBI has the deal with the US,EU and others but 1C maintains publishing for CIS. Each side maintains control of any distrubtion of ANY product under the IL2 or PF name in their region. Meaning 1C can't distribute in the US or EU and vice visa. 1C and UBI are not in cooperation with each other.

If 1C pays Oleg to develop a plane or addon for them Oleg can't release this addon to UBI unless UBI enters into a deal with 1C or exercises an option usually in their publishing contract to fund a new addon. It's quite similar to Lock On. Lock On devs wanted to make an addon, UBI said it wouldn't pay for it so the CIS market is the only one getting it as 1C was the only publisher that paid for the development.

In short either Oleg himself wanted to make an addon and UBI said it wouldn't pay for it unless he did (fill in clever marketing idea here), or 1C paid Oleg to make it. Oleg can't release it for free unless 1C gives him the go ahead if indeed they paid for it's development. It's compicated I know but I tried to explain it the best I could

EURO_Snoopy
02-12-2005, 06:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
why was his post edited? I wanted to see this info he typed, he speaks both russian and english and its nice of him to let us know whats going on in the russian forums and information which we are not getting at all!!!

And after paying $130 for this series

il2 sturmovik 30
FB 30
aep 30
PF 40

we cant get these planes for free and included for all version wtf is happening? and wtf is 1c and ubi team thinking, we paid alot for this series and we are going to have to pay 40 when bob is out and most likely 30 for the battle of france edition and 30 for the battle of poland addition.

wtf is happening with this stuff let you customers know! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Post content was not edited, only caps taken out in title

DuxCorvan
02-12-2005, 07:33 AM
Oh great...

How wonderful support and bla bla bla... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Uncomforted love is always sad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

airdale1960
02-12-2005, 07:35 AM
It doesn't make economic sense to make aircraft compatible with just the Russian version of the game, alot of money is being lost my friends. The IL-2 series is the most popular Sim in the world, Microsoft doesn't even try to compete any more.

DuxCorvan
02-12-2005, 07:46 AM
There's not much of what I've seen these last months that makes economic sense... nor any sense at all... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

DuxCorvan
02-12-2005, 08:39 AM
But, hey! Reading Oleg's text update, it looks a reasonable deal for all that we may have in the end... and still is some hope for the Russian stuff... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Badsight.
02-12-2005, 01:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
we paid alot for this series and we are going to have to pay 40 when bob is out and most likely 30 for the battle of france edition and 30 for the battle of poland addition.

wtf is happening with this stuff let you customers know! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>they dont have to do or give a single thing for free ,

but they have done

repeatedly

we should have to pay for add-ons , & it helps keep the sim alive

Badsight.
02-12-2005, 01:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by indylavi:
I think Oleg has a multi-region deal with the IL2 series. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>UBI has distribution rights to FB / PF for the whole world apart from the CIS states

1C has the rights to them

crazyivan1970
02-12-2005, 06:36 PM
Why are you guys freaking out?
1) Pe-2 addon is not even out yet.
2) Fight for the "world release" is not even started.
3) Oleg only posted current situtation with addon.
4) Remember PF anouncement? Pure stand alone and no but`s. What do we have now?

Community is a powerfull force, never underestimate it.

3.JG51_BigBear
02-12-2005, 06:38 PM
Out of pure curiosity, when is the Pe-2 addon supposed to be released?

VW-IceFire
02-12-2005, 08:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 3.JG51_BigBear:
Out of pure curiosity, when is the Pe-2 addon supposed to be released? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe by summer I think is the impression that I was getting. But thats a guesstimate I think.

You guys need to relax a little. Some of you make the otherwise stressed out pent up ball of rage that I am look like a harmless snowball http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We may yet get a expansion with the Pe-2 and other cool content on it. Who knows...it could happen.

Charlie901
02-12-2005, 10:21 PM
Why doesn't 1C make it availible by D.L. around the world like "Flaming Cliffs" for Lockon. They could take a lesson from Eagle Dynamics (Also a Russian based developer)on this one!

EnGaurde
02-12-2005, 10:47 PM
it seems to me that when IL2 was being developed, perhaps interference from above may have been negliable.

now its been proven, and every $$$ eyed opportunist wants his piece of the 1C action, deadlines are being shortened, new projects are being pushed, and the point of this story...

... that which is unique, ie support, time to polish, unheard of community feedback etc which made the original so great, seems to be in danger of being abandoned?

i sincerely hope and wish that what was a carefully, lovingly home cooked meal, does not turn into a mcdonalds production line suagr rush due to the politics of publishing requirements written into contracts.

developers live for their work.

publishers live for their money.

if only 1C published itself...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

LEXX_Luthor
02-12-2005, 11:58 PM
Oleg and UBI may be talking about this too as we post...

Ian Boys (Fnebuary 10):: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Re Oleg - they just moved to a bigger office with all the fuss that entails and also had a delegation from Ubi there (so ditto). Plus you get people like me (and a thousand others) constantly hassling him - it's a wonder he gets to sleep at all.

~ http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=127;t=000936;p=2
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>