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Davinci..
10-18-2007, 07:38 PM
The experience vs reflex thread, and the recent "wannabe ace" thread, got me thinking..

What pilots do you "fear" or "respect"(mabey out of fear) when you are in the air(online).

Someone in the experience vs relfex thread, mentioned "natural aptitude", and thats basically what im talking about.. the pilots out there that just "get it", no matter what/where they are flying, they are a threat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Im not talking about the pilots you respect because you have a great time with them(i have a million of those).. but the ones that will knock you out of the air if you give them half a chance. They just know what to do, and when to do it, and you watch out for.

Perhaps a top 3.

For me, 2 names really come to mind: Fatcat 99, and JGE Snark.

I've flown with/against Fatcat, countless times, and with snark only a handfull. But to me, those two "just get it", they just know what they are doing. They'll always be there and do the right thing without having to say a word as a team mate. And give you the fight of your life as an opponent. Normally i fly around servers willy-nilly, but if either of them are on, i'd probably be checking my 6 a lot more often http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and would be a lot more cautious flying into a combat area http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yours?

JG51_Rudel
10-18-2007, 07:45 PM
I have respect for any Pilot who shots me down, but i am not afraid of them.

carguy_
10-18-2007, 07:59 PM
Fear comes to the act only when something is at stake.I preserve my virtual life first so I generally tend to do my job and go home.Sudden fear comes mostly when I realise that my team is horribly outnumbered.

I`d say I fear the most experienced pilots though I love dueling them in favorable situations.

Pigeon_
10-18-2007, 08:00 PM
The only pilot I fear is myself... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

waffen-79
10-18-2007, 08:08 PM
no offence to the original poster but this thread strikes me as a popularity contest

name the ace kind of thing

its not jealuosy I KNOW I'm an üBER ACE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Davinci..
10-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by JG51_Rudel:
I have respect for any Pilot who shots me down, but i am not afraid of them.

Then whyd you change your answer? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Im not talking about being affraid, im not "affraid" of snark or fatcat, but i respect the bejesus out of thier piloting ability http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif im talking about the pilots, you take a lot more seriously then others, because they are good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Davinci..
10-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by waffen-79:
no offence to the original poster but this thread strikes me as a popularity contest

name the ace kind of thing

its not jealuosy I KNOW I'm an üBER ACE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

none taken.. this was supposed to be the opposite of that "uber ace" thread. About the pilots you respect, I guess people cant take it that way.

Scharnhorst1943
10-18-2007, 08:57 PM
I fear moldy cheese ... and the Red Baron. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LEXX_Luthor
10-18-2007, 09:12 PM
Of the four classical elements, Air is the most enjoyed by pilots, while Earth and Water find the most Respect, and Fire causes the greatest Fear.

joe.08
10-18-2007, 10:36 PM
so there are no online "veterans" with checked egos?

I mean come on... what, is "so and such" not a good "pilot" cause he flies one thing and you the other?

No one has an honest reply?

AKA_TAGERT
10-18-2007, 11:02 PM
fear none..
respect some..

LEBillfish
10-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
fear none..
respect some..

got no lube..
fear the noob..

(he'll ram ya in the 6 every time)

AKA_TAGERT
10-18-2007, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
got no lube..
fear the noob..

(he'll ram ya in the 6 every time) We talking flight sims right? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

joe.08
10-18-2007, 11:36 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif you sons a bitshes... was really hoping for some honest answers before i dare go online sparing the lube http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

anyway online ego harder to beat than online skill? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Friendly_flyer
10-19-2007, 12:00 AM
An AI gentleman named "Ace".

K_Freddie
10-19-2007, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEBillfish:
got no lube..
fear the noob..

(he'll ram ya in the 6 every time) We talking flight sims right? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Of course not... we've just gone onto the brighter side of OT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
(Bill's having a great day)

rnzoli
10-19-2007, 12:10 AM
RESPECT: all bomber pilots and mud movers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

FEAR: fear none but the fear itself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MrMojok
10-19-2007, 01:19 AM
Let me start by saying I'm no online pro. I get shot down all the time.

Having said that, what made a good fighter pilot in WWII?


1)Good vision, we know that.

2)Extreme agressiveness, we know that.

3)Confidence in his plane, and familiarity with it, in the sense that he knew very well what it could do, and what it could not. We know this from any number of memoirs written by those lucky ones who survived the war, regardless of what side they flew for.

4)Familiarity with his enemy's machine-- knowing what it could do, and what it could not. We know this from the same of sources I wrote about in the previous paragraph.

5)A little bit of luck doesn't hurt.

I don't mean to suggest that we sitting at our computer desks experience anything like what those guys did in WWII... but I do say that these same things exhibited by pilots in the game, are what makes a pilot someone to be feared online.

I'm not going to name names. To do so would be somewhat crass, and possibly counterproductive. But let me close by saying that if you spend any amount of time online, it's real easy to pick out the ones that have 1-4, above. And you will know if you run into one. It's like being a big fish that is being reeled in. Not in the forum-trolling sense. More in the sense that you have suddenly discovered that everything you think you have learned, so far, isn't doing anything to help you against this guy. And you KNOW, that barring sudden arrival of some cavalry, or a mistake out of the blue, that he isn't too likely to make, this guy is going to get you.

There is always somebody that can kick your a-s-s. I don't care if you play basketball, chess, like to fight in bars, or play flight sims online. There is SOMEBODY out there who will get you. This is true, I imagine, even for some of the better online pilots (and I'm not including myself in that group).

So the ones I fear, are the ones who have 1-4. I can only hope that I get a little bit of number 5. Or that there is a cloud to run into, or perhaps help close by.

slipBall
10-19-2007, 01:30 AM
I fear a mod user http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Billy_BigBoy
10-19-2007, 04:12 AM
What I most fear is the earth. There's no way I can avoid it.

erco415
10-19-2007, 08:51 AM
Yeah, 1V1 with ol' mother earth is a losing proposition... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

msalama
10-19-2007, 09:20 AM
Will refrain from naming names too, but some of the folks I've flown with are actually effin' great... that particular bunch of aces doesn't however include me for some strange reason http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

i200th_Sakagawa
10-19-2007, 10:37 AM
fear p51 or more p47(much diffcoult to hear engine)when B&Z me in ki84 in full real.

Still watching my 6 up :P

Choctaw111
10-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Here we go with that "Uber Ace" stuff again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

ddpairborne59
10-19-2007, 11:57 AM
Respect: All the men and women who flew in real combat in reguards too air warfare.

Fear: Being attacked by them for real, in any point in history.

SlickStick
10-19-2007, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
Here we go with that "Uber Ace" stuff again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Totally different. Mine was a self-awareness guide, as Uber Aces™ do not require public recognition for their own validation.

This is an Ego Boy™ type of thread, usually started by one in an alias (not saying that this one is), to garner their much needed kudos from others, as a validation to their skill. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

It's off to a great start, too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I respect the pilot that can go toe-to-toe with another pilot and the long, chess-like, match-up ends when either, one makes a mistake or one properly anticipates his opponent's move and makes a final superior countermove. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I also respect the pilots who can quickly and smartly adjust to any given set of match-up circumstances, plane sets, or map, at any given time.

SithSpeeder
10-19-2007, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
fear none..
respect some..

got no lube..
fear the noob..

(he'll ram ya in the 6 every time) </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Too darned funny!

* _54th_Speeder *

Kernow
10-20-2007, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by rnzoli:
RESPECT: all bomber pilots and mud movers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

'fear' - anyone in an all-round superior plane - or anyone who's got behind me.

Over the years I've been playing the most notable 'fear' plane has been the 109 when playing online wars set on the eastern front during 41/early 42. Nothing else is so superior to all the opposition when you have historical planesets. In a Russian ac I'd fear any enemy pilot; in a 109 I'd have no reason to fear any Russian pilot (save the one who gets behind me unseen, as always - and if I've not seen him it doesn't matter who he is or what he's in).

BfHeFwMe
10-20-2007, 06:58 AM
Zit faced teenagers who don't know what fresh air and sunshine are. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

-HH-Quazi
10-20-2007, 07:09 AM
A m8 with the call sign SF1 on Zekes vs. Wildcats. I don't think he posts in these forums very much. But this pilot is a great one imho.

T_O_A_D
10-20-2007, 08:55 AM
I respect a plane *****, they can usually fly anything above average. Given the setup they can be Lethal.

I Fear, if you can call it that virtually, a Specialist. The one plane, my plane flyer screw the rest.
They are lethal, and a hell of alot more fun to kill, 1vs1 in same aircraft, their aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

DmdSeeker
10-20-2007, 10:40 AM
Any of the PFS squad, especialy Brain32 and extra especially Blue Lion.

Oktoberfest is also much more effective than any one has a right to be in a 110.

willyvic
10-20-2007, 02:17 PM
I do not fear any online pilot. I do, however find that the folks that fly with a wingy are tougher overall. Those are the ones you should respect.

WV

Davinci..
10-20-2007, 04:28 PM
heh, apperently im the only one with a healthy fear/respect for a good opponent... who knew...

VMF-214_Pappy
10-21-2007, 12:38 AM
Only pilot i fear is Chuck Norris in any aircraft model.

VMF-214_Pappy
10-21-2007, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
Here we go with that "Uber Ace" stuff again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Totally different. Mine was a self-awareness guide, as Uber Aces™ do not require public recognition for their own validation.

This is an Ego Boy™ type of thread, usually started by one in an alias (not saying that this one is), to garner their much needed kudos from others, as a validation to their skill. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

It's off to a great start, too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I respect the pilot that can go toe-to-toe with another pilot and the long, chess-like, match-up ends when either, one makes a mistake or one properly anticipates his opponent's move and makes a final superior countermove. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I also respect the pilots who can quickly and smartly adjust to any given set of match-up circumstances, plane sets, or map, at any given time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wow your one to talk with 500 aliases.

na85
10-21-2007, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Davinci..:
The experience vs reflex thread, and the recent "wannabe ace" thread, got me thinking..

What pilots do you "fear" or "respect"(mabey out of fear) when you are in the air(online).

Someone in the experience vs relfex thread, mentioned "natural aptitude", and thats basically what im talking about.. the pilots out there that just "get it", no matter what/where they are flying, they are a threat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Im not talking about the pilots you respect because you have a great time with them(i have a million of those).. but the ones that will knock you out of the air if you give them half a chance. They just know what to do, and when to do it, and you watch out for.

Perhaps a top 3.

For me, 2 names really come to mind: Fatcat 99, and JGE Snark.

I've flown with/against Fatcat, countless times, and with snark only a handfull. But to me, those two "just get it", they just know what they are doing. They'll always be there and do the right thing without having to say a word as a team mate. And give you the fight of your life as an opponent. Normally i fly around servers willy-nilly, but if either of them are on, i'd probably be checking my 6 a lot more often http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and would be a lot more cautious flying into a combat area http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yours?

If I'm flying red I try to stay away from Josf

mynameisroland
10-21-2007, 06:07 AM
There arent that many players I fear online as I reckon I can give as good as I get in most match ups.

I will name a few though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FA Jaws is always a very tough opponent in his Fw 190, having flown with and against him.

FlyingFinn is lethal in any aircraft - he gets over 20% gunnery accuracy sometimes 30% if he is in a plane he likes. Closest to Marseille Ive seen online.

JtD is patience and experience personified. Highest K/D ratio I have seen, absolutely solid tactically.

IceFire is a great Tempest pilot. Only guy (apart from me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifand I suspect Brain32 ) to do the Tempest justice online.

Nightshifter. He is the kind of Spitfire pilot who can dominate the fight using energy and altitude unlike so many spit pilots who reply soley on turn.