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XyZspineZyX
10-05-2003, 03:37 PM
I made a mistake in a previous thread.


http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/102nd.jpg

I told you the columns represent the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Chutais respectively. They don't. The first column is the Headquarters Chutai, the second column is the 1st Chutai, the 3rd column is the 2nd Chutai and the 4th column is the 3rd Chutai.



http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/102nd_photo.jpg

That explains this photo. The tail emblem looks white. It probably is, and would correctly correspond to the 1st Chutai, 102nd Sentai.


And this photo...
http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/104th_photo.jpg

...which depicts a 1st Chutai, 104th Sentai plane would suggest that the tail flash must be red.


I realized my mistake while perusing my book "Japanese Army Air Force Units And Their Aces, 1931-1945" (Hata, Izawa, & Shores - Grub Street).

You also asked for some history on the 102nd, as you were forming a vitual unitl based on this Sentai. Here is what I came up with from the same book:

102nd Hiko Sentai
Formed ar Kita-Ise in July 1944. Disbanded July 1945. Formed the 100th Hikodan with 101st and 103rd Sentais.

Aircraft
Ki-84 - July 1944-July 1945

Bases
Kita-Ise July 1944-March 1945
Miyakonojo west March - June 1945
Narimasu June -July 1945

Battle Honors
Homeland, central Honshu December 1944-March 1945; no aerial victories
Okinawa April - June 1945; lost 17 pilots in combat plus six taking part in suicide attacks

Commanding Officers
Major Kaoru Kakimi March 1944 - April 1945
Captain Iwao Hayashi April - July 1945

Hikotai Leaders
Captain Iwao Hayashi August 1944 - April 1945
Captain Minoru Narita April - July 1945

Seibitai Leader
Captain Yosh i toshi Mokuri August 1944 - July 1945

(Take out the spaces above, stupid language filter)





Regards,

SkyChimp

http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/NAA_logo.jpg



Message Edited on 10/05/0306:37PM by SkyChimp

XyZspineZyX
10-05-2003, 03:37 PM
I made a mistake in a previous thread.


http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/102nd.jpg

I told you the columns represent the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Chutais respectively. They don't. The first column is the Headquarters Chutai, the second column is the 1st Chutai, the 3rd column is the 2nd Chutai and the 4th column is the 3rd Chutai.



http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/102nd_photo.jpg

That explains this photo. The tail emblem looks white. It probably is, and would correctly correspond to the 1st Chutai, 102nd Sentai.


And this photo...
http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/104th_photo.jpg

...which depicts a 1st Chutai, 104th Sentai plane would suggest that the tail flash must be red.


I realized my mistake while perusing my book "Japanese Army Air Force Units And Their Aces, 1931-1945" (Hata, Izawa, & Shores - Grub Street).

You also asked for some history on the 102nd, as you were forming a vitual unitl based on this Sentai. Here is what I came up with from the same book:

102nd Hiko Sentai
Formed ar Kita-Ise in July 1944. Disbanded July 1945. Formed the 100th Hikodan with 101st and 103rd Sentais.

Aircraft
Ki-84 - July 1944-July 1945

Bases
Kita-Ise July 1944-March 1945
Miyakonojo west March - June 1945
Narimasu June -July 1945

Battle Honors
Homeland, central Honshu December 1944-March 1945; no aerial victories
Okinawa April - June 1945; lost 17 pilots in combat plus six taking part in suicide attacks

Commanding Officers
Major Kaoru Kakimi March 1944 - April 1945
Captain Iwao Hayashi April - July 1945

Hikotai Leaders
Captain Iwao Hayashi August 1944 - April 1945
Captain Minoru Narita April - July 1945

Seibitai Leader
Captain Yosh i toshi Mokuri August 1944 - July 1945

(Take out the spaces above, stupid language filter)





Regards,

SkyChimp

http://members.cox.net/rowlandparks/NAA_logo.jpg



Message Edited on 10/05/0306:37PM by SkyChimp

XyZspineZyX
10-05-2003, 04:13 PM
Hi SkyChimp,

Thank you, I was doing some more research myself on the net about those Chutai numbers. It's kinda funny that you post this thread at this time, because I was actually just reading this information: http://www.marksindex.com/japaneseaviation/jaafstructure.html
Which suggests the blue Chutai would (as you write) be the Sentai Hombu, or Headquarters Chutai.

Thanks again,
The additional information about the real 102nd is very interesting and will be very usefull, thanks!

XyZspineZyX
10-05-2003, 09:56 PM
MetalGear when you get this Chutai up and going let me know... we'll have some historical battles /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
We've been waiting for the Japanese Aircraft since our squadron was a PTO unit..and never tangels with the Luftwafft. Would be neat to have a Japanese Squad to fly against on a regular basis. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-05-2003, 10:09 PM
Hi Copperhead,

Well I'm still in the progress of setting a Sentai up. But I'm getting there /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
But when I get it all rolling then I'll let you know and we can have some healthy competition /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif