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duffys_tavern
10-18-2004, 12:41 PM
Anyone heard, Working Catapults? Just curious.

SaQSoN
10-18-2004, 01:11 PM
There will be no catapults. It was considerd as feature, but then was abandoned. For this sim. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

adadaead
10-18-2004, 01:36 PM
What that sucks.

diabloblanco1
10-18-2004, 01:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by adadaead:
What that sucks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it does not. The wheel blocks stop you from moving. You rev you engine full speed then release the blocks. The effect is catapult like as you thrust towards the end of the deck.

Wait until you play it to pass judgement on the things you "think" suck. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

adadaead
10-18-2004, 01:57 PM
It sucks that we not gonna have that feature not the catapults. Jeez.

JG7_Rall
10-18-2004, 05:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by diabloblanco1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by adadaead:
What that sucks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it does not. The wheel blocks stop you from moving. You rev you engine full speed then release the blocks. The effect is catapult like as you thrust towards the end of the deck.

Wait until you play it to pass judgement on the things you "think" suck. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A catapult is nothing like chocks.

nearmiss
10-18-2004, 08:50 PM
You think a AA/F dragster is fast as he##. You should see (and hear) a modern Navy jet kick in the afterburner and then see it launch by catapult from a carrier deck.

You talk about unreal... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Tater-SW-
10-19-2004, 11:52 AM
Yes, actually they did. USN and RN CVs had cats. Essex clas even had hanger deck cats to launch planes without having to use the flight deck (though they were virtually never used). I have pictures of P-47s being catapulted from a CVE instead of offloaded with cranes.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021518.jpg

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~drmiles/images/cv-12_hanger_deck_cat.jpg

tater

owlwatcher
10-19-2004, 11:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fliegeroffizier:
They didn't have/use catapults on carriers in WWII.

This is a WWII flight sim...

Ipso facto, no catapults are on PF carriers, nor should there be any.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you are wrong, catapults were used during WW2.

MEGILE
10-19-2004, 11:53 AM
All I can say is... F4U-1D with 2 Tiny tims, and 4 HVARs off the deck of a stationary Lexington in a dogfight? Not a fuxing chance...

Fliegeroffizier
10-19-2004, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by owlwatcher:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fliegeroffizier:
They didn't have/use catapults on carriers in WWII.

This is a WWII flight sim...

Ipso facto, no catapults are on PF carriers, nor should there be any.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you are wrong, catapults were used during WW2. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I did more research..correct...
QUOTE:
Yorktown and Enterprise, commissioned
in 1937 and 1938 (as well as a
few subsequent carriers), were each
fitted with an athwartships catapult on
the hangar deck, along with two bow
catapults on the flight deck. Both ships
made their first catapult launches on 4
August 1939, scarcely a month before
the outbreak of war in Europe. Wasp,
during her first year of operation, mid-
1940 to 1941, made only three dozen
live catapult launches. After the US.
joined the war, hangar deck catapults
were removed from existing carriers.
Until mid-l 943, however, Essex-class
carrier plans called for hangar deck
catapults.
In April 1943 Enterprise recommended
her catapults be removed because
they were so limited to small, slow airplanes
that they were of no use. Instead,
they were replaced with updated H2-1
catapults capable of accelerating an
11 ,OOO-pound airplane to 70 mph in a
73-foot run. In February 1944 Commander
Naval Air Force, Pacific Fleet,
reported that catapults were important
for all carriers and were vital for CVEs
and CVLs. They became so essential
to the CVE mission of aircraft resupply
that all Army fighters earmarked for
the Pacific were fitted for catapults
while on the production line.
UNQUOTE

Still, doesn't seem they were used much in terms of the historical flight operations of the sort which we will encounter in PF.

Tater-SW-
10-19-2004, 12:05 PM
They were used on the CVLs and CVEs a lot because of reduced flight deck.

CVL Cowpens:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/histories/cv25-cowpens/cowpens430625.jpg

You can see the catapult on the Port side.

tater

nearmiss
10-19-2004, 12:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megile:
All I can say is... F4U-1D with 2 Tiny tims, and 4 HVARs off the deck of a stationary Lexington in a dogfight? Not a fuxing chance... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The F4U-1D is a powerhouse aircraft.

You're gonna be in for a surprise after all these little rabbit Euro aircraft, like the BF109. You put those two side by side and the 109 looks like a toy.

Aircraft are launched at sea into the wind. The carrier turns in to wind for launch, the ship is running 20+knots and the wind coming across the flight deck is like nothing experienced at a land airbase.

Fliegeroffizier
10-21-2004, 04:19 PM
I researched quite a bit...Couldn't find any references to how often and, more importantly, how successful the WWII catapult launches were.. I'd like to know the ratio of catapulted planes which did NOT fall immediately into the Drink.

wuggle85
10-21-2004, 04:24 PM
ive got a video that shows a wildcat being launched by catipult from a carrier

firehttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifstarter

Tater-SW-
10-21-2004, 04:58 PM
An entire deckload of P-47s was catted off a CVE to Okinawa I think (it was acting as a ferry).

tater

StS_Habib
10-22-2004, 02:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fliegeroffizier:
I researched quite a bit...Couldn't find any references to how often and, more importantly, how successful the WWII catapult launches were.. I'd like to know the ratio of catapulted planes which did NOT fall immediately into the Drink. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

fliegeroffizier, your name sounds german
maybe you know the germans had a carrier too, called graf zeppelin. he had 2 catapults too that were needed if a ju-87b wants to start.

so try to search deeper and you will find a lot of informations about catapults

fherathras
10-22-2004, 06:37 AM
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WOLFMondo
10-22-2004, 06:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
An entire deckload of P-47s was catted off a CVE to Okinawa I think (it was acting as a ferry).

tater <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Someone posted a pic of this a while ago here. Can't find it now though.