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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:06 PM
After one flies enough offline dynamic campaigns, you see a lot of pretty strange AI behavior. One example was at the start of one of my last missions. We were waiting to takeoff and I started to hear the air raid sirens. Well I figured, being the last plane in line, I was going to get strafed for sure ( they were supposed to fix this bug a long time ago ) so I decided to take off on the taxiway and
meet the two IAR 80s that would have strafed me, had I stayed put. Well, I ended up in the air slightly before the lead AI plane. His little digital mind apparently couldn't deal with that and he promptly nosed into the ground only a 100 meters off the end of the runway, for no real good reason. What was even funnier was number two's loyalty, like a good wingman, he decided to follow his lead plane and smashed himself into the ground almost exactly the same spot!!! That left me and number 3 and we then smoked the IARs pretty badly in our Hurri MkIIb's, splitting the kills.
Another strange incident was when I was flying in the fourth position again, this time in a Mig 1, and on the climb out I overetook number 3 quickly and went up to get in formation with 1 and 2 planes, figuring the slowness of number 3 was his own problem. I noticed when I wizzed by that number 3 had his flaps down to about takeoff position, figured he'd gone overspeed for his flaps and got them stuck. He lagged way behind until we got to our destination, when I saw he had finally retracted his flaps. So he had not got them stuck after all. He had flown over 100 kilometers that way though!! But I thought it weird that Maddox/1C apparently modelled "forgetfullness"
into AI behavior, as it seems the AI pilot had simply forgot to retract his flaps!!!
I have other amazing stories of AI behavior to tell but don't want to write a book. Anybody else have any weird stories of AI acting weird??


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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:06 PM
After one flies enough offline dynamic campaigns, you see a lot of pretty strange AI behavior. One example was at the start of one of my last missions. We were waiting to takeoff and I started to hear the air raid sirens. Well I figured, being the last plane in line, I was going to get strafed for sure ( they were supposed to fix this bug a long time ago ) so I decided to take off on the taxiway and
meet the two IAR 80s that would have strafed me, had I stayed put. Well, I ended up in the air slightly before the lead AI plane. His little digital mind apparently couldn't deal with that and he promptly nosed into the ground only a 100 meters off the end of the runway, for no real good reason. What was even funnier was number two's loyalty, like a good wingman, he decided to follow his lead plane and smashed himself into the ground almost exactly the same spot!!! That left me and number 3 and we then smoked the IARs pretty badly in our Hurri MkIIb's, splitting the kills.
Another strange incident was when I was flying in the fourth position again, this time in a Mig 1, and on the climb out I overetook number 3 quickly and went up to get in formation with 1 and 2 planes, figuring the slowness of number 3 was his own problem. I noticed when I wizzed by that number 3 had his flaps down to about takeoff position, figured he'd gone overspeed for his flaps and got them stuck. He lagged way behind until we got to our destination, when I saw he had finally retracted his flaps. So he had not got them stuck after all. He had flown over 100 kilometers that way though!! But I thought it weird that Maddox/1C apparently modelled "forgetfullness"
into AI behavior, as it seems the AI pilot had simply forgot to retract his flaps!!!
I have other amazing stories of AI behavior to tell but don't want to write a book. Anybody else have any weird stories of AI acting weird??


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin - 1755

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:50 PM
What I think is funny is how the aircraft appear to pivot about a point aft of, or near the tail, this point is also known as the center of gravity, and obviosuly is can not be located where the visual model suggests that it would be. This is an old IL-2 problem, and the yak 1 or is the 7 flyable seemed to fly this way when human controlled as well.

recently in FB the AI do these odd mush maneuvers where they appear to be slipping or skidding but in abnormal directions, and at abnormal speeds. . . I don't really care as I do not fly offline to any real extent, but it does impact my overall oppinion about the fit and finish of this sim.


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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:20 PM
I ran a mission I created in FMB and in this one there are 2 Li-2's coing in to land. I shot the nose off of one while it was on it's roll out after landing and it spun around like a chicken with it's head cut off right in the middle of the runway...LOL

It did this for 10 or 15 minutes until I came back on another pass and put it out of it's misery. It was too funny. I kept toggling back to the external view of it to watch. I wish I would have saved that track.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:26 PM
I shot down a pair of U-2 biplanes... AI pilots bailed out, and then, one of the planes gave a turn and started to fly backwards, making a perfect glide followed by a perfect landing near a road... backwards. And without a pilot. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:31 PM
EcoDragon Wrote:
"What I think is funny is how the aircraft appear to pivot about a point aft of, or near the tail, this point is also known as the center of gravity, and obviosuly is can not be located where the visual model suggests that it would be. This is an old IL-2 problem, and the yak 1 or is the 7 flyable seemed to fly this way when human controlled as well.

recently in FB the AI do these odd mush maneuvers where they appear to be slipping or skidding but in abnormal directions, and at abnormal speeds. . . I don't really care as I do not fly offline to any real extent, but it does impact my overall oppinion about the fit and finish of this sim."



Yes, exactly! And trying to maintain formation with AI planes ( especially escort duty ) when they fly like this makes it hard to stay in position. Since your plane can't fly like that. I noticed that AI planes, at least in non-combat flying, use way more rudder than aileron to accomplish a turn. This gives the skidding phenomenom
you are talking about. Very sloppy turning indeed. Most
pilots if anything would use more aileron, using only enough rudder to keep the ball centered. That is usually very little rudder, depending on the plane. Skidding through turns looks so silly and amatuerish.

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Message Edited on 10/20/0306:33PM by mortoma

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:37 PM
Duxcorvan wrote:

"I shot down a pair of U-2 biplanes... AI pilots bailed out, and then, one of the planes gave a turn and started to fly backwards, making a perfect glide followed by a perfect landing near a road... backwards. And without a pilot."



Well that's probably due to the secret UFO technology that
the Russians used in W.W.II and was modelled by Oleg!! When Luftwhiners complain about Red planes flying like "UFOs", actually they are more correct than they realize to say this. Notice the German planes can't fly backwards..not fair I say!!! Ha ha


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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:42 PM
Well, I was closing in on a Bf-109G-10 in my P-47, with my wingmen as backup... When all of the sudden I get 24 50 cals zooming all over my plane - fuel leak, oil cooler hit, ailerons damage; and not a scratch on the Bf-109G-10!

Damn kill stealers! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Oh yeah, I'm a P-63 whiner too! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:49 PM
Oh yes, the wingmen are very jealous... They never help you when you need them, but they go for your preys and kill you if you are getting the kill...

I hate'em... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:56 PM
How about this. When I fight against TB3's I kill both pilots, but the plane stays in the air! When I attack enemy fighter formations, sometimes they split up on the first pass, and others stall right out, causing an easy kill for me.

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