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Messervy
07-13-2006, 12:12 PM
Zidane (http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Sport/2006/07_Luglio/10/pop_zidane.shtml)

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P.S.
In my case it only worked once.

Celeon999
07-13-2006, 12:29 PM
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Now Celeon can headbutt as much Matarazzi‚¬īs as he wants http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Go Zizou Go !

And dont forget ! The new trend of this summer !

If you dont like someone and you want him to know that.


Give him a Zidane ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js0vOgjBfD8) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif


Or play Mario Matarazzi ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

The game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLdIcZ2IuZw&mode=related&search=)

U301
07-13-2006, 01:56 PM
If I earnt ‚£20 million a year I don't think anybody bad mouthing my Mom would put me off!
It might even encourage me too be more of a nice guy!
KUrtz.

Messervy
07-14-2006, 10:24 AM
Here is a new one:

How did various nation saw it (http://www.denvergiles.co.uk/Zidane.html)

Celeon999
07-14-2006, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Messervy:
Here is a new one:

How did various nation saw it (http://www.denvergiles.co.uk/Zidane.html)


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Kaleun1961
07-14-2006, 11:08 AM
Here in Canada we do things differently than Europeans. No head butting allowed, however we sometimes do a think called "jerseying" wherein you pull the other guy's jersey over his head while pounding him.

Here's a webiste with a bunch of hockey fights:

Hockey Fights (http://www.hockeyfights.com/videos/)

Edit: I removed the previous link to hockey fights after rethinking it . The site had porno banners on the page and I second-guessed myself, thinking it inappropriate to post that here. Anyhow, enjoy these hockey fights; they are in the "multimedia" section down the left side of the page.

Kaleun1961
07-14-2006, 11:30 AM
I thought I had better explain, for the sake of those overseas, how a typical hockey fight progresses. Two guys decide to fight for some reason; maybe the one guy slashed the other guy with his stick or gave him an elbow in the face. First thing they do is drop the sticks and then they drop their gloves off. Then they quickly move for position, just like two boxers. Then they go in at each other. Usually they try to grab the other guy's jersey up high on the front of the shoulder area; once they have a good grip they try to hold with that hand and land punches with the free hand. The other guy tries to do the same and at the same time prevent the other guy from getting his hand free. Usually this means that a fight begins with grappling, standing up, until you can get one hand free and start landing the punches. Once one guy goes down, the referees step in to prevent the disadvantaged player from getting hammered. Sometimes one player gets the other guy's jersey pulled over his head, thus blinding him from the incoming punches. This also results in the referees immediately breaking up the fight.

Check out the Domi vs Langdon fight on this page: Fight (http://www.hockeyfights.com/videos/) You'll see how they square off at first, then get a hand locked on the other guy's sweater and then the free hand starts swinging.

Tie Domi is an "enforcer" for the Toronto Maple Leafs [K-61's hometown team.] He's pretty much near the end of his career, but he's still one tough little S.O.B.! His parents are from Albania. With his heritage in mind, he is known as the "Albanian Assassin" in the NHL.

Enforcers are players who are known for their fighting ability. If things start getting out of hand, such as the other team singling out a star player for special attention or harrassing your goalie, the enforcer is sent to work. Once upon a time the enforcer was a goon type with limited playing skills. With the big salaries of NHL players and the close competition these days, keeping a talentless goon on staff is a luxury that isn't much indulged these days. You'll find that even the "goon" players have some talent. Domi in his prime was a real go-getter, digging in the corners and a fast skater. He's still in good shape, but at his age he is close to the end of his career and just isn't getting as much ice time. Still, he's a favourite of Toronto fans.

I guess this is one reason I prefer hockey over soccer. The players fight like men, not this girly stuff of head butting, kicking and spitting that I sometimes see from soccer players.

Edit: The fight listed at the top of the page is a good one; Ray vs McSorley. That one is a good demonstration of the fighting tactics I described earlier in this post. You see them going round each other until they get stuck in. The one hand gets free and the punches start flying. Ray and McSorley are two top fighters in the NHL. When two guys of this stature get scrapping you know it will be an epic fight. Even the referees know that they should let these two guys do their thing. If you watch this video all the way through, you'll see them smile at each other when the fight is over. They actually respect each other and enjoyed that they each gave the other guy a good go.

Celeon999
07-14-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Here in Canada we do things differently than Europeans. No head butting allowed, however we sometimes do a think called "jerseying" wherein you pull the other guy's jersey over his head while pounding him.

Here's a webiste with a bunch of hockey fights:

Hockey Fights (http://www.hockeyfights.com/videos/)

Edit: I removed the previous link to hockey fights after rethinking it . The site had porno banners on the page and I second-guessed myself, thinking it inappropriate to post that here. Anyhow, enjoy these hockey fights; they are in the "multimedia" section down the left side of the page.


It looks like ice hockey is a lot more about fighting than football.

Things like this with Zidane or the fight after the game Germany - Argentina are the very rare exceptions.

You see this in one of 50 games.

And the headbutt is a really new thing i havent seen before. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But Zidane is a tough head shooter so it was definitly a painful attack by him as he can bring on much power with his head.


The Fifa really freaks out when seeing something like this. There is no tolerance like with penalty minutes or so.

Hit someone and youre out of the game. Also there is no watching this without doing something.

The refeeres will stop a fight immidiatly even with security personell if necessary.

Kaleun1961
07-14-2006, 11:48 AM
Fighting is definitely a part of hockey, not the main part, but a sometimes necessary part. Because it is not forbidden, it is an outlet at times that I think actually deters incidents like using a stick as a weapon. If you are a smaller guy in the NHL, you will not for long get away with using dirty tactics against the bigger players. If you try that stuff, some guy will punish you. Finesse is encouraged, as that is what scores goals. The fighting in hockey serves to keep everybody honest.

When I saw Zidane hit that guy, I knew right away that it was a devestating blow he landed. Soccer players, like American football players, must develop the neck muscles as a priority in their fitness. Hockey players should have strong necks as well, in order to be able to survive body checking, but even so they don't often get as strong in the neck as soccer players.

bunkerratt
07-14-2006, 11:55 AM
living in wisconsin hockey is a well known activity for stress relife ...the university i work for {U.W.}mens and womens teams are champions ..and once the lakes freeze over on any given saturday morning you can see folks out having beer games on the ice..it starts out pretty good ..but after about a 6 pack each..things get rather comical... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Celeon999
07-14-2006, 12:14 PM
It was also a very unusual thing from Zidane.

Especially from him.

He is a man of few words, rather shy and silent.

For example he spends most of his time playing football with mentally retarted kids and also with kids from immigrant families to give them an alternative to street criminality. Thats also why so many people like him.

The whole football world was shocked to see something like this from him.

Kaleun1961
07-14-2006, 12:18 PM
I've had a number of fights in my amateur hockey career. As a defenceman, I had the job of trying to stop the other team's forwards from scoring or getting into scoring position. They didn't always appreciate my bodychecks and blocking. Most of my fights were initiated by me after the other guy did something dirty to me, like use an elbow or a slash with the stick. Sometimes it was initiated by the other guy after I laid on a good bodycheck. Some guys just can't take a good hard hit. They came across "my" blue line with the puck and I caught them napping, looking down at the puck or for an open team mate. Then I would step into them with a hard shoulder and drop them. Some guys were very embarrassed by this and would come up swinging.

I preferred not to fight, simply because I didn't like serving time in the penalty box. But there are times when you say to heck with the consequences, you simply have to drop the gloves. You can't let the other team think they can get away with things because they know you won't fight. You get a reputation for being an easy mark and they will run you out of the rink. Usually my criteria for starting a fight was if the other guy did something to me and the ref wasn't going to call a penalty, then it was time to drop the gloves. If the ref was calling a penalty I usually let it go so that my team could have the power play.

I remember one incident where I was defending against a one on one. The guy came over the blue line and I let him come a little bit closer to me. At the right moment I stepped into him and dropped him with a clean body check. I then picked up the puck and started to skate away from him. Laying on the ice, he swung hard for my ankle and connected. It was quite painful and for once I was not content to let the ref make the call. I dropped my gloves immediately, grabbed him up off the ice and just pounded him hard and fast. Before the linesmen got to us it was already over. I just dropped him back to the ice and picked up my gloves and stick and skated to the penalty box.

What made things worse as far as stick infractions go, was the mandatory face mask rule. As soon as the face mask came into play, guys started using their sticks more, as they thought they couldn't get hurt any more in a fight. Prior to that, you always knew that if you were a dirty player there was a good chance some guy would bust your face for you. For a while you could get away with ripping off the other guy's face protection, but it was made illegal to do so and the penalty for doing so was quite harsh.

I'm still of the opinion that there would be far fewer stick infractions if you got rid of the face masks in hockey. But the nanny state won't allow that to happen. They still think they're making hockey "safer." I played up until 2002 when I hurt my back at work, but still without a face mask. I did make the concession of a half visor for a few years, but got rid of it as I felt it hampered my peripheral vision. I've always relied on my reflexes to turn my face away from a puck or stick. When I began wearing the half visor, I noticed I was getting hit more often by high sticks and concluded that I wasn't seeing them early enough to avoid them. I then stopped using the half visor and played for years without it and had no facial injuries. As for the full visor, I tried it but just couldn't get used to playing with it and discarded it after only a few games.

Messervy
07-15-2006, 03:18 AM
I played Ice Hockey for some six years, never got into fight but I realy loved anoying the defencmen by leting them bord themselves. I was a right winger and rather agile on my skates so it was hard for them to catch me off guard.
However it did happen from time to time.

I remember one particular check. We were playing a 3 state tournament in Italy and I got a bad pass on a blue line so I had to reach back to catch the puck.
I knew what comes next.
This huge Austrian defender dropped me like a fly. I swear I spinned in the air at least some 520 degrees before hitting the ice.

No pain, no bruised ego. It`s all a part of a game.

As far as the half-visors go....I love them because they look neat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/Messervy/33AA-1.jpg

Dominicrigg
07-15-2006, 05:17 PM
Just thought i would surface to say....

FORZA ITALIA CAMPIONE DEL MONDO!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Even zidane using ninjitsu couldnt stop Italy!!

Now to cry over juventus. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif I dont think i can take such highs and lows...

Kaleun1961
07-15-2006, 09:19 PM
I think that if the game had been won during regulation time, not in some phony shootout, that the Italian victory would have been much sweeter. As it is, I can't but kind of feel sort of sorry for the Italian fans. They have to cheer a half-assed win instead of an outright win. Sadly this shootout concept is beginning to creep into hockey and always cheapens the winner's victory.

Still, it's better to be cheering a win like that than to have lost in a shootout.

U301
07-16-2006, 10:57 AM
For what its worth I said Argentina v Italy for the final so I was 50% right.
If the bottom falls out of Italian football there is a safe home for all the vagabonds at: Celtic F.C.
Parkhead,
Glasgow,
Republic of Scotland.
Include C.V. please.
KUrtz.