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Gibbage1
04-08-2005, 09:18 PM
IL2 Challenge #2; Bees Hive!

Its time for Challenge #2.

I did not get a lot of participation in the last one, so I modified things to open it up to more people. First thing is you now have more time. In fact, a whole weekend! The IL2 Challenge starts tonight, Friday at 8PM Pacific time, and will run for 48 hours till Sunday at 8PM Pacific time.

The challenge itself is both a lot easier and harder. I can almost guarantee you WONT survive, but you will have lots of fun getting killed! Be sure!!!

This weekends challenge is properly titled Bees nest. Here are the settings.

#1. All tracks must be recorded in 3.04M.

#2. QMB and ANY map. Altitude 1000M and turn OFF AAA.

#3. Pick ANY aircraft with a gunner position. This includes but is not limited too

B-25
A-20
He-111
Ju-87
IL2
BF-110
TB3
And any other aircraft with a gunner position.

#4, You will have NO wingman and NO allied aircraft.

#5, Fill all enemy lots with 4x Ki-43 Ia€s for a TOTAL of 16! Ki-43€s and set them too Rookie.

Your QMB screen should look SOMETHING like this (With your choice of aircraft and map)

http://www.gibbageart.com/files/beesnest.jpg

The mission? Shoot as many Ki-43€s as possible FROM THE TURRET POSITION ONLY! Once the mission starts, fly to the group of enemy fighters, then Jump into the turret and fight for as long as you can! Claim as many kills as possible!

The winner is the pilot who claims the most kills before getting killed! Its that simple. A tie will be broken by the pilot who got the most kills in the least amount of time.

Please note. You can use any turret position, but you can NOT use the pilots guns (I.E. The B-25€s 5x .50 cal fired by the pilot, or the BF-110€s forward weapons). Kills made by AI turret€s are fine. But don€t expect them to be much help.

USE UNLIMITED AMMO!!!!! Trust me on this. You will have PLENTY of targets. Any kills after death are NOT counted. So make sure you splash um before they splash you. Use Realistic gunnery.

Please post ONLY your top score, not the track. Once the 48 hours is up, the winning score MUST provide a track to prove it. You can E-mail the track to me. Once confirmed, I will host the track so everyone can watch it.

Well get flying!!! So far my top score is 6 kills.

Gib

Gibbage1
04-08-2005, 09:19 PM
P.S. Yes, I know I said the next challenge would be "Sniper" but I tried it last night. Its not possible with current AI bugs. And it was not much fun.

PBNA-Boosher
04-08-2005, 09:33 PM
Use an SBD-3/5. The rear gun is deadly to Japanese planes due to its close concentration of .30 cal fire.

ImpStarDuece
04-08-2005, 10:53 PM
Im at ten so far and i'm sure I can do better!

Gibbage1
04-08-2005, 11:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Use an SBD-3/5. The rear gun is deadly to Japanese planes due to its close concentration of .30 cal fire. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ya. The SBD was rather suprisingly good! Only problem is the tail gets in the way a lot! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Gibbage1
04-08-2005, 11:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
Im at ten so far and i'm sure I can do better! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WOW! Thats impressive! This may be higher scoring then I thought!

javierib
04-09-2005, 12:26 AM
ok...my score is 12 with an IL2

Gibbage1
04-09-2005, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by javierib:
ok...my score is 12 with an IL2 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow. When I was doing the testing, I was playing vs normal AI. Maybe rookie is too easy? This may come down to a timed situation.

Be sure to save your tracks!

Tully__
04-09-2005, 03:02 AM
This looks like fun, going to give it a try http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Edit: I'll never win, but that's a hoot. Give it a try http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Gibbage1
04-09-2005, 04:12 AM
Wow. I just set the mark HIGH! I just finished with a WHOPPING 13 kills!!!!!

Since I am running this thing, I cant win, but man. I just HAD to brag!!! 13! I would of had 14, but the STUPID autopilot tried to do a Split-S 100 feet above the ground. WTF? We were not even smoking or damaged!!!!

PlaneEater
04-09-2005, 04:21 AM
12 in a Mitchell, ~6:30.

**** fuel tank fires.

Vortex_uk
04-09-2005, 04:57 AM
13 in a B-25, would of got more but they run away http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

SpartanHoplite
04-09-2005, 05:41 AM
12 in an IL2 M3. (although when I first tried, I thought the challenge was 16 KI-84 Ic! My record was 1 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ).

Good ol' Il2... take a lickin', and keeps on tickin'. Although in fairness, probably half of those kills actually crash landed as a result of battle damage after my IL bellied into the water.

But I did survive. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SH

antifreeze
04-09-2005, 06:48 AM
Gibbage, are players allowed to still fly the aircraft whilst in the gunner position, or do they have to relenquish control to the AI autopilot?
In your post you say your own autopilot killed you in a bad split-S, but I bet some of these other scores were achieved by flying the aircraft from the gunner position.

SpartanHoplite
04-09-2005, 07:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Antifreeze:
Gibbage, are players allowed to still fly the aircraft whilst in the gunner position, or do they have to relenquish control to the AI autopilot?
In your post you say your own autopilot killed you in a bad split-S, but I bet some of these other scores were achieved by flying the aircraft from the gunner position. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, Gribbage's 13 (almost 14) kills is believable, but other peoples' 12 or 13 isn't? Ohhh-kay.

Anyway, mine was done with an AI pilot. I can hardly aim with the mouse anyway, let alone fly at the same time too.

SH

Gibbage1
04-09-2005, 03:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Antifreeze:
Gibbage, are players allowed to still fly the aircraft whilst in the gunner position, or do they have to relenquish control to the AI autopilot?
In your post you say your own autopilot killed you in a bad split-S, but I bet some of these other scores were achieved by flying the aircraft from the gunner position. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must be in the gunners seat. But if your in something like the B-25 with other gunners, there kills count for your own. The challenge is being a gunner.

Gibbage1
04-09-2005, 03:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
13 in a B-25, would of got more but they run away http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then go after them! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That 14th kill I could of had was in the process of landing. I flew next to him, jumped into gunner, and started hosing him down!!! Thats whem my autopilot tried to Split-S us into the **** dirt. Baka!!!!

I hope Oleg fixes the AI not knowing about the ground in 4.0...

Jumoschwanz
04-09-2005, 03:42 PM
Can I have the e-mail address please?

kap2406
04-10-2005, 02:20 AM
how do you convert tracks from the game into video files outside the game?
PS I got only 10 with Il-2http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Papa_K
04-10-2005, 02:47 AM
I fell for it:

IL-2(s) and A-20 work pretty well.

Unlimited ammo is a must.

In the end, you may have to chase down the last 2-3 from the pilot position, disqualifying it from the official competition -- but satifying as a "Mission Complete".

Papa_K

ImpStarDuece
04-10-2005, 04:39 AM
Just got 14!

Two crashed into each other though and while they are dead I dodn't get any creidt for them. Do they count or must I kill them all dead again?

(EDIT) on second thoughts I'll just kill them all again

Gibbage1
04-10-2005, 05:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Papa_K:


In the end, you may have to chase down the last 2-3 from the pilot position, disqualifying it from the official competition -- but satifying as a "Mission Complete".

Papa_K <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Feel free to chase the buggers down in the pilot position. Just make sure you SHOOT them in the gunner position.

FI_Willie
04-10-2005, 09:58 AM
I just cleaned it with a TB3..

Probably NOT how it was meant to be done, but I did think outside the box. BWAHAHA!

I got one on the first attack and banged up a few more from the tailgunner position. The AI disengaged!! My autopilot was taking me off to parts unknown. I jumped back in the cockpit and landed at their base. ( I set an airbase w/o AAA as a target)

The TB3 nosed over at the end of the rollout. I sat in the rear gunners seat and mowed down every one as they landed. LMAO!!

Smolensk map, AI "average", unlimited ammo.

Got 3 cars while I was waiting for the next turkeys to land too!!

Only got credit for 12 in the game. After watching the replay, I got all 16.

23:46 total time for killin the planes.

If ya want the .trk file lemme know.

Grue_
04-10-2005, 10:04 AM
I got all 16 thanks to this little incident:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/flyingscampi/ki43woe.jpg

Shame they don't count http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG54_Arnie
04-10-2005, 10:34 AM
at least 20 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And some odd 10 cars. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

gprr
04-10-2005, 01:18 PM
Hi Gibbage1

Thanks very much for the idea and sharing.
I'v enjoyed it a lot and got 13 with IL-2.Also recorded it and will try other versions for fun.
It is Realy histercly funny.

Cheers
gprr

Gibbage1
04-10-2005, 01:40 PM
The reason they disenguaged from your TB3 is a bug in IL2/PF. It only effects SOME aircraft. B-25 and TB3 that I know of. The bug is, if they light your wing in fire, they ignore you! This happened with ALL aircraft in AEP Beta till I reported the bug and Oleg fixed it. This is the first time I have seen it since, but its there. A-20 will be on fire and they will still gun for it, but not B-25 and TB3 odly enough. TB3 has fire extinguishers.

I tried the TB3 and they just kept PKing me or ignoring me due to the fire. AAA will also ignore you once your on fire.

Im only counting the aircraft you get CREDIT for. Now how many die for unknown reasons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif IA right now is so stupid its not even funny.

FI_Willie
04-10-2005, 06:35 PM
Oh well, all of the planes in my mission were set on fire from my guns. A couple of them disappeared from the map just before they would have exploded. It was funny to watch tehm try to take off after I set 'em on fire as they landed.

The other two blew up nicely but didn't score.

It was fun.

Gibbage1
04-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Time is running out! 15 mins left.

Gibbage1
04-10-2005, 10:30 PM
Fin!

Vortex_uk with 13 kills
gprr with 13 kills

We have a tie!

Please post the time it took to get all 13 kills. That will be the tie braker. Time ends when you count 13 "Enemy Aircraft" confirmation messages in the lower right hand corner.

Remember, only count the kills CREDITED.

ImpStarDuece
04-10-2005, 11:54 PM
I beg to differ Gibbage. I have 14 kills, AI Rookie on the Moscow map, all credited and all shot down from the rear seat of an IL2.

I will post the tracks as soon as someone tells me how http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

JG54_Arnie
04-11-2005, 12:54 AM
Hey! I got 20 or more!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You didnt say they all had to be flying either. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And some of those smoking bastards landed, so I landed as well, shot them up (without credit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ) and shot up some static aircraft (all Ki43's) instead. Isnt that worth many points? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It was all done with the gunner position.

Gibbage1
04-11-2005, 01:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
I beg to differ Gibbage. I have 14 kills, AI Rookie on the Moscow map, all credited and all shot down from the rear seat of an IL2.

I will post the tracks as soon as someone tells me how http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you posted this

"Two crashed into each other though and while they are dead I dodn't get any creidt for them. Do they count or must I kill them all dead again?"

That means you got 12 since the two that crashed did not dive any credit. If you did indeed get credits for those kills, then yes. You got them. You can send the track to gibbage (at) gibbageart (dot) com and I will review it.

Gibbage1
04-11-2005, 01:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG54_Arnie:
Hey! I got 20 or more!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You didnt say they all had to be flying either. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And some of those smoking bastards landed, so I landed as well, shot them up (without credit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ) and shot up some static aircraft (all Ki43's) instead. Isnt that worth many points? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It was all done with the gunner position. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Send the track to the E-mail addy I posted above and I will review it and see if you did in fact qualify.

JG54_Arnie
04-11-2005, 01:10 AM
hehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif done. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ImpStarDuece
04-11-2005, 01:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
I beg to differ Gibbage. I have 14 kills, AI Rookie on the Moscow map, all credited and all shot down from the rear seat of an IL2.

I will post the tracks as soon as someone tells me how http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you posted this

"Two crashed into each other though and while they are dead I dodn't get any creidt for them. Do they count or must I kill them all dead again?"

That means you got 12 since the two that crashed did not dive any credit. If you did indeed get credits for those kills, then yes. You got them. You can send the track to gibbage (at) gibbageart (dot) com and I will review it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


No, sorry, confusion of the medium.

What I meant was that I shot down fourteen credited. One of the planes I hit rammed another one (hence two crashed into each other) for a credited one kill and then one bugger got away with a smoking engine and I couldn't find him.

So to recap; 16 Ki-43s on Rookie, unlimited ammo, Moscow Map, 1000m. 14 shot down by me, one of which took out another and the last and lonliest glided in for a forced landing.

So I was credited with 14, 1 got away and one was taken out by one of my kills

Gibbage1
04-11-2005, 05:53 PM
Good job ISD! I think YOU did more dmg to your aircraft then the nme!

http://www.gibbageart.com/files/14down!.zip

Talk about a sniper rifle! You were killing those Ki's before they were even shooting at you! Lights them up ALMOST as fast as the twin .30's on the SBD.

JG54_Arnie
04-12-2005, 04:56 AM
Ahw, you didnt like my rambo mission Gib? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nice track though, you deserve the win ISD. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif