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domenlovrec
04-24-2005, 06:58 AM
Hi!

I've been learning how to fly this baby, and i need to know everything about it. But i can't find anything, so plz help! tnx

Taylortony
04-24-2005, 08:46 AM
I did have a link to em but i cant find it, you might like this though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://ww2airfronts.org/Flight%20School/basics/lessons/cadet_notes/cadet_note1.html

taisto_s
04-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Don´t know if you are interested, but this is a relatively inexpensive book to get.Highly recommended!

Spitfire V Manual: The Official Air Publication for the Spitfire F. Va., F. Vb., F. Vc., Lf. Va., Lf. Vb., and Lf.Vc, 1941-1945

by Michael A. Fopp , ISBN: 1853675458

DandyFellow2005
04-28-2005, 12:07 PM
Here are the "Ten Rules of Air Fighting" By Sqn Ldr Adolf "Sailor" Malan (I have not seen this on any forum
so I have desided to ad it here.).
It is taken out of an Osprey Aviation book (Aircraft of the Aces: The Legendary Spitfire Mk I/II 1939-41.).

"Prewar fighter pilot Sqn Ldr Adolf 'Sailor' Malan (a South African) became a leading tactical thinker in Fighter
Command following his experiences in combat in 1940. Formerly a flight comander with No 74 Sqn, he was given
command of the unit during the height of the Battle of Britain in August 1940, and by 1 March 1941 he had been
credited with 15 enemy aircraft destroyed, 6 shared destroyed, 2 probably destroyed and 7 damaged. His final
victory score was 27 enemy aircraft destroyed, 7 shared destroyed, 3 probably destroyed and 16 damaged."

"'Sailor' Malan also produced the famous ten Rules of Air Fighting, which encapsulated the essentails of air combat
and were distributed throughout Fighter Command. They deserve to be repeated here:

1. Wait until you see the whites of thier eyes. Fire short bursts of one or two seconds, and only when your shights
are defenitely 'ON'.
2. Whilst shooting, think of nothing else, brace the whole of your body, have both hands on the stick,
concentrate on your ring sight.
3. Always keep a sharp lookout. 'Keep your finger out!'
4. Height gives You the inisiative.
5. Always turn and face the attack.
6. Make your decisions promptly. It is better to act quickly even though your tacticks is not the best..
7. Never fly straight and level for more than 30 seconds in the combat area.
8. When diving to attack the enemy, always leave a proportion of your formation above to act as a
top guard.
9. 'Initiative', 'Agression', 'Air Discipline' and 'Teamwork' are all words that 'Mean' something in air fighting.
10. Go in quikly - Punch hard - Get out!"


Spitfire Mk VIII against Oscars and Zeros/Zekes (from Aircraft versus Aircraft ISBN 0-7537-0543-5):

"During the siege of Imphal between March and June 1944 the defence of the Imphal Valley was almost exclusively undertaken
by a handful of Spitfire VIII squadrons. One pilot infolved was Alan Pearl, a New Zealand pilot with 81 Squadron who,
with this squadron, had seen considrable action in North Africa And Sicily:

'The Mark VIII was a beautiful machine with retractable tail-wheel, clean lines and pointed tail.
The Stromburg carburettor permitted negitive "G" without the engine cutting out and it had (like the Mark IX) a two-stage
superchager which provided considerable additional power above 18000 feet. Our armament was two 20 mm cannon
and four 0.303 machine-guns, all of which was effective against the Japanese.

'Our first sight of the Japanese was during a raid on Calcutta and in the Arakan where we had quite a number of
engagements against Japanese Oscars (plus the odd Zeke) and where we had the opportunity of developing our fighter
tactics against oponents with characteristics entirely different than the Germans.

'In the Arakan the Mark VIIIs met the enemy in force in February 1944. Within a period of 14 days the Japanese suffered
severe fighter losses and lost alot of their aggressiveness. Until then they appeared to roam at will over Allied territory.

'I recall that after an encounter with a large force of Oscars over the Arakan, 81 Squadron had few claims of aircraft
destroyed but claimed many damaged. Some time after, we recieved reports that up to 30 aircraft were seen to crash.
Not all 81s but it indicated that, under the rules, our claims could be very much an underestimation.

'The Mark VIII had a considerable advantage over the Oscars and Zekes, being armoured, more highly powered,
faster and better armed. The Japanese on the other hand were extremely manoeuvrable, had great endurance in
the air and generally
outnumbered the Spitfires.

'Our tactics were to position ourselves above the Oscars, attack at speed using the sun, surprise if possible and powerclimb
away out of range. Thus we could mount continious attacks with relative impunity. This was similar to the German fighter tactics.
The Japanese defence was to fly in circles, each fighter covering the one in front and taking snapshots at the Spitfires
as they passed.

'They were not heavily armoured and our .303s could put a lot of destructive metal into them.
The cannons caused obvious and serious damage. This was not the case with Me109s, where I have hit one with
machine-guns from behind only to see the bullets ricocheting off.
In such cases we could only claim a damaged. Similarly with the Japanese aircraft, unless it was badly on fire
or seen to crash,or the pilot bailed out, it could not be claimed as destroyed. I never did see a Japanese pilot bail out!'"


Spifire VC(I think) against Zero over Australia (Aircraft versus Aircraft):

"The Spitfire, as a fighter, was superior to the Zero, though less maneuverable at low speeds. In straight and level flight,
as well as in a dive, the Spitfire was faster, but the Zero had the beter climb. Tactics in future should be restricted to fast
attacks, then dive away to regain speed to climb for another attack."


Spitfire versus Me109-Battle of Britain (Aircraft versus Aircraft):

"It was not until March 1941 that the following tactical information, prepared and ciculated by the Deputy Directorate of
Air Tactics at the Air Ministry, concerning German aircraft types, was released:

'1. Me109
In this type the pilot is very vulnerable to deflection attacks owing to the position of the armour, which is some 50 inches
astern of his seat. The glycol, radiator and oil coolers are also very vulnerable to attack from below, and many aircraft have
been brought down by having their cooling systems shot through. Me109s frequently adopt dive and zoom tactics,
which are not always easy to follow and for Hurricane Is the best counter-measures seem to be to
attemt to make surprise attacks. If the Me109s for defensive circles, it is best to attack the by flying round inside the circle
in the opposite direction. When Me109s are escoting bomber formations and form defensive circles, it is best for the fighters to
make feint attacks to try and occupy the attention of the fighters while allowing the bombers to proceed unescorted.
Small numbers of fighters have successfully acheived this, allowing the greater concentration of our fighters to attack the
enemy bombers. Me109s seem to prefer avoiding combats where numbers seem to be more or less equal, but sometimes
go away to gain height and then return in an attemt to surprise our fighters."



Well I hope that this is of some use to you.

NorrisMcWhirter
04-28-2005, 12:24 PM
Here's some tips.

a. Start engine.
b. open rad.
c. hit boost.
d. take off.
e. pull back on stick.
f. after 5 seconds, push forward on stick and observe that you are already at 6000m

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Cheers,
Norris

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
04-28-2005, 09:17 PM
You Sir are heading the right way for a smaked bottom http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

msalama
04-28-2005, 09:42 PM
G) ...at which point you notice the bandit above you at 7000m...
H) ...who then dives for your a**e...
I) ...and promptly shoots the said a**e off...
J) ...after which you are forced to bail out...
K) ...&c...

The advantages of this strategy? Why, you'll never have to learn to actually _land_ the beast! Simple and easy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And yes, applying for a bottom-smacking immediately sir http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
04-28-2005, 09:53 PM
Far too many of you bloody babies in here of late and its turning my stomach.

I simply can not understand why you buggers were not strangled at birth?

In my day we would have had you all out side breaking fakking rocks for this kind of flagrant girlish whinging - stuff like 'boohoo its not fair, and I cant shoot him down he climbs to fast or oh mommy why cant I have one as fast as that is quite simply the language of a bunch of pinko fith columnists!!'

What you buggers need is a swift prod up the kyber pass with the ol cold steel. That will teach you to climb faster now wont it.

Noob planes and ufo's is all a bunch of surrender monkey jibber jabber if you ask me.

Come back when those of you with a back bone have grown some stubble and learned to drink proper beer.

I bet you ware thongs under your battle dress to you big jessies.

Now bog off back to the girlie tent like good little boys and let the rest of us get on with it.

WTE_Ibis
04-29-2005, 02:05 AM
Why do you hold back m8,don't hold back give it to'em both barrells.Sheesh don't be so shy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

EURO_Snoopy
04-29-2005, 04:43 AM
Monty lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Balrog go into the quiet room for the day, lie down and take the pills.

msalama
04-29-2005, 08:58 AM
What Monty said! "Don't mention the war" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
04-29-2005, 09:32 AM
What can I say I am a sensative kinda guy and some times I just feel the need to express my feelings in a calm and creative manner.

P.s sorry bout the thread jack and now we return you to your normal viewing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

msalama
04-29-2005, 10:21 AM
P.s sorry bout the thread jack and now we return you to your normal viewing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

'xactly. We was goofing, Snoopy man, is all! This (http://home.clara.net/wolverine/BOB/misc/Spit_Hurri_Manuals.zip) package, however, contains the official Air Ministry Pilot's Notes booklet for Spitfire types IIA and IIB. Enjoy!

Tazzers1968
04-29-2005, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by tHeBaLrOgRoCkS:
Far too many of you bloody babies in here of late and its turning my stomach.

I simply can not understand why you buggers were not strangled at birth?

In my day we would have had you all out side breaking fakking rocks for this kind of flagrant girlish whinging - stuff like 'boohoo its not fair, and I cant shoot him down he climbs to fast or oh mommy why cant I have one as fast as that is quite simply the language of a bunch of pinko fith columnists!!'

What you buggers need is a swift prod up the kyber pass with the ol cold steel. That will teach you to climb faster now wont it.

Noob planes and ufo's is all a bunch of surrender monkey jibber jabber if you ask me.

Come back when those of you with a back bone have grown some stubble and learned to drink proper beer.

I bet you ware thongs under your battle dress to you big jessies.

Now bog off back to the girlie tent like good little boys and let the rest of us get on with it.

I swear I am genuinely, no muckin' about and exagerating, LMAO. My 15 month old daughter is fast asleep in the next room and I will hold you personally responsibly if she wakes up. Pack it in. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Phil http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dieg777
04-29-2005, 06:45 PM
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mauld
05-03-2005, 08:08 AM
Try this site it has the lot http://www.crecy.co.uk/index.html?lang=en-us&target=terms.html

major_setback
05-03-2005, 09:18 AM
This edit is taken from one of my earlier posts. I hope it's of some use to you.

The Spitfire disc includes flight manuals for several marks, ......and so much mooooore! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


.... There's a series of interactive CD roms of fighter aircraft put together by Absolute Air Land and Sea that are probably still available. Each CD features one WWII fighter. The CDs contain a mass of useful information on each plane. Tamiya (the model plane company)published the CDs.

http://modelingmadness.com/others/books/cleaver109cdrom.htm

http://www.bookspostfree.com/acatalog/Books_Post_Free__Military_18.html



There is a mass of info on the disc. It is ideal for modellers, skinners, or those who have an abnormal interest in piddling details about aircraft!
I think you might like it. I paid about 15 pound (English) for it a a model fair, and at that price its definately worth it.

If you are into roundels colour schemes etc. you will like it, even though ther aren't to many good colour plates of colour schemes.



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triggerhappyfin
05-03-2005, 09:35 AM
Perhaps you find something HERE (http://airwar.ru/other/bibl_r.html) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif