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Kaleun1961
07-09-2007, 10:41 AM
First off, no serious injuries other than hurt pride on my son's part by having his new Chevy Silverado truck rear-ended by a suspected impaired driver.

My son was helping my eldest daughter move her furniture to her university residence on Saturday. He was off duty and my daughter had the day off to move her big stuff, like her bed and furniture to the house she is renting for her second year at university. They were on their way home and were stopped at a red light when they were hit from behind by a woman driving a Malibu. The front end on her car sustained heavy damage and my son's truck received bumper and fender damage.

They traded information and she asked my son if he was going to report the accident to police. While he was on the phone calling home, she drove off. He drove the few blocks to where she lived and called home again. He said she seemed kind of skittish and said she was on medication that made her sleepy. Suspecting she may have been impaired, I told him to call the police. While waiting for the police to arrive, the woman's neighbour spoke to my son and told him that she was an alcoholic and drug addict and hung around with a biker gang. One police cruiser arrived, then another cop on motorcycle arrived and then one of the woman's biker friends.

The police told my son that when they interviewed her, they suspected she was impaired but could not charge her as she had already made it to her residence. In cases such as this they don't bother to charge as in the past, lawyers have been able to beat it. They simply say that their client returned home and had something to drink and that there is no way to determine what degree of impairment may or may not have been present at the time of the collision. However, the police will be charging her with careless driving or something similar. Turns out she is not a nice lady. The cops told my son they are always coming to her home and on one previous occasion they had to Tazer her when she resisted arrest.

So now my daughter is all worried that bikers are going to come to our house to intimidate them. I think the odds of that are slim, in spite of their reputation of burning down peoples' houses, according to the neighbour. It's not like our kids are witnesses at a murder trial. This will most likely be dealt with at traffic court and no need for my kids to testify. However, if it comes down to them having to go to court, then we will consider the possibility that this lady's friends might try something. But I hope that they won't be bothered to get involved over something so minor as a traffic case.

mrsiCkstar
07-09-2007, 10:56 AM
Sorry to hear about this, I hope everything will go well. Good luck.

Celeon999
07-09-2007, 12:01 PM
As i read the title of this thread i feared someone got hurt.

Relieved to hear that everyone is ok. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If those bikers come they will learn that it is no good idea to piss off an experienced Kapitänleutnant. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

klcarroll
07-09-2007, 12:17 PM
I too want to echo Celeon's sentiments! .......I am glad to see that everyone is OK! .........Give your kids my best wishes!

From the routine they put me through every time I cross the border, I had always assumed that Canada was much more aggressive on the whole "impaired driving"¯ thing.

.......And as far as the "Lady's"¯ friends are concerned: ........Feel free to mention to them how many unpleasant friends you have in the U.S.!! (The whole world knows how unstable we can be! ....and it's a short drive! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif)

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Starforce3
07-09-2007, 01:03 PM
well atleast they were in a truck and not a crosswalk. I see stupid **** every day as a schoolbus driver, seeing people who don't care that my stopsign and red lights are on and they just drive right through as the kids are in the street.

Starforce3
07-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by klcarroll:
I too want to echo Celeon's sentiments! .......I am glad to see that everyone is OK! .........Give your kids my best wishes!

From the routine they put me through every time I cross the border, I had always assumed that Canada was much more aggressive on the whole "impaired driving"¯ thing.

.......And as far as the "Lady's"¯ friends are concerned: ........Feel free to mention to them how many unpleasant friends you have in the U.S.!! (The whole world knows how unstable we can be! ....and it's a short drive! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif)

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And add that you have a bunch of friends who spend all day playing nazi sub captain http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kaleun1961
07-09-2007, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Starforce3:
well atleast they were in a truck and not a crosswalk. I see stupid **** every day as a schoolbus driver, seeing people who don't care that my stopsign and red lights are on and they just drive right through as the kids are in the street.

My best buddy is a school bus driver and he has told me all kinds of tales about inattentive or just plain ignorant driving around school buses. I've seen some too, from my 18-wheeler cab. My friend told me about this one high school ages girl who used to deliberately pass his bus and seem to get a kick from it. It wasn't a matter of she wasn't paying attention, it was deliberate, as she would flip him the finger as she passed. Big mistake! My buddy knows several cops in the area and told them about it. One of them decided to tag along with him on his route this particular day when Miss Middle Finger comes along and does her usual routine. Right in front of the cop, who was tucked in behind the bus but saw her coming. Ahhhhhhh, revenge!!!!

Thank you, folks, for the best wishes. I've talked this over with a few people and they seem to think the bikers won't be bothered to mess with this. As one of my friends said, they'll probably laugh at her for being so dumb. Let's hope they see it that way, too. I've known one or two bikers over the years and they seem to rather prefer avoiding trouble from the cops. I just can't see them getting bent out of shape over a road accident when their friend was the one at fault.

Realjambo
07-09-2007, 03:37 PM
I too was worried from your title K61!

I'm glad nobody was hurt and I also hope the friends of this 'lady' choose not to get involved. Sounds like she got away with it, so if she has any sense she'll tell her 'friends' not to come visiting you and let it go.

Credit to your son and daughter for keeping cool heads and not losing it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Liddabit
07-09-2007, 04:52 PM
My heart sank when I read the title! I'm so glad everyone is okay. That is a terrible thing to happen, so scary http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif! I hope everyone is and continues to do well Mister 61 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
07-09-2007, 05:10 PM
I too was worried from your title K61!
Agried I had thought they had been hit while crossing the street of sominthing worse. But I glad to hear that everything is a ok. That just proves that DWI is not just a danget to the driver but to all thoes on the road. Some people just dont understand this. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

comanderFritz
07-09-2007, 05:29 PM
your title scared me, thank god no one got hurt sorry to hear about the bikers who might cause problems. if you have a german visor of any kind greet them at the door with it on if you happen to be at the house

Kaleun1961
07-10-2007, 03:32 PM
Sorry for the alarming title of this thread. Should have worded it differently. Anyhow, thank you for the kind wishes. My son simply took all this in stride; he's a firefighter so he is used to keeping his cool. My daughter is the opposite, she was kind of freaked out about the biker showing up. I don't think they'll bother us over some piddling road accident. Nobody was hurt and their friend wasn't threatened or abused in any way. After I explained all this to my daughter she seemed to be alright. Too bad Canadians aren't allowed to CCW, or I'd get her a nice piece to pack. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

The_Silent_O
07-10-2007, 07:02 PM
A very similar experience happened to me at Mount Rushmore here in the United States. I got rear ended by some floozy who was completely drunk. mashed my mountain bike (attached to the back of my Ford Explorer) and I ended up in the emergency room. A lady who saw the whole thing called the cops and she was aprehended on the spot.

found out from the trooper that this was not her first drunk driving incident. They could not find ANY brake marks on the road, meaning she did not even ATTEMPT to brake before she ran into me...at about 35 mph.

Her last name was Ziolkowski...and I've always wondered if she is related to this gentlemen in some way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korczak_Zi%C3%B3%C5%82kowski

Maverick_U2007
07-11-2007, 01:12 PM
1st off..glad to hear that everyone is OK.

Just shows the difference between US and UK.

Here in the UK she would have been arrested...blood samples would have been taken and sent for analysis. They would be able to say how much alcohol/drugs were in her system at the time of the accident using a system called 'count back'.

Here she would be very lucky not to be found guilty. She would be banned from driving for a couple of years and fined. She would also have to take an extended driving test before she would be allowed to drive and her insurance costs would be massive.

This country does get something right.

tuddley3
07-11-2007, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Too bad Canadians aren't allowed to CCW, or I'd get her a nice piece to pack. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

There ya go, I say do it anyway, it would make me feel better anyways. I hope her house catches fire, and your son is on duty and refuses to put out the flames. Revenge is sweet!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
07-12-2007, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
1st off..glad to hear that everyone is OK.

Just shows the difference between US and UK.

Here in the UK she would have been arrested...blood samples would have been taken and sent for analysis. They would be able to say how much alcohol/drugs were in her system at the time of the accident using a system called 'count back'.

Here she would be very lucky not to be found guilty. She would be banned from driving for a couple of years and fined. She would also have to take an extended driving test before she would be allowed to drive and her insurance costs would be massive.

This country does get something right.
Now thats tugh on crime! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Unfourtunly a little thing called the Constitution gets in the way of that. Sometimes that peice of paper is realy anoying. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

joeap
07-12-2007, 02:24 AM
Ugh, nothing to sat but I am happy for your kids.

Dumb @#$% http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

VikingGrandad
07-12-2007, 12:32 PM
Glad to hear no real harm was done K61.

I'd like to offer some rerassurances from my own experiences for what's it's worth...

I used to hang around with bikers when I was a student (I preferred the biker pubs to the contrived 'student bars'). Most of the bikers I knew were decent people at heart who would only consider taking the law into their own hands if things were really serious. I doubt your kids' situation is 'worthy' of any hostile reprisals. Also, I think the longer these things go on without incident, the more likely it is that nothing will ever happen.


Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
1st off..glad to hear that everyone is OK.

Just shows the difference between US and UK.

Here in the UK she would have been arrested...blood samples would have been taken and sent for analysis. They would be able to say how much alcohol/drugs were in her system at the time of the accident using a system called 'count back'.

Here she would be very lucky not to be found guilty. She would be banned from driving for a couple of years and fined. She would also have to take an extended driving test before she would be allowed to drive and her insurance costs would be massive.

This country does get something right.

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Not to say that 'driving under the influence' isn't a serious problem in the UK - but it would be a lot worse if the laws weren't so strict.

@Maverick just for the record, K61 lives in Canada, not the US http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kaleun1961
07-23-2007, 04:16 PM
My son has his truck in the shop now being repaired. The damage estimate came in at just under $4400 Canadian: a new rear bumper and bumper pad, a new left side for the cargo box, internal brackets and paint work. While his truck is in the shop the insurance company has rented for him a GMC Sierra. Nice truck and gorgeous interior. Now I am kind of drooling over it and would like to add one to my fleet.