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Red-Baron2006
10-08-2006, 07:34 PM
I have read that the new addon will have 32 new planes. But when i look into the rrg site it says u get 12 planes for SOM{including the AI planes}, then 17 planes for 46 addon. If i know my math that doesnt equal to 32 but 29 new planes. So what are the other 3 planes we are getting {If at all}?

I might be wrong somewere but this is the info on the rrgstudios website.

Taylortony
10-08-2006, 07:40 PM
see

http://www.airwarfare.com/latest.htm

Skycat_2
10-08-2006, 08:14 PM
The current "Complete Edition" DVD ends at PF 4.04m. The upcoming 'complete' DVD will include the three post PF add-ons, Pe-2/SoM/46. So, you have to count the flyable Pe-2s and Pe-3 in that number I think.

Skycat_2
10-08-2006, 08:27 PM
Maybe this count will help:

New Flyable Aircraft (in Pe-2 addon)
1. Pe-2, 1940 (1 series)
2. Pe-2, 1942 (84 series)
3. Pe-2, 1942 (110 series)
4. Pe-2, 1944 (359 series)
5. Pe-3, 1941
6. Pe-3 bis, 1941

New Flyable Aircraft (in 4.06/4.07)
7. Nakajima Ki-27 Ko, 1938
8. Nakajima Ki-27 Otsu, 1938
9. Nakajima Ki-43-II, 1942
10. Nakajima Ki-43-II Kai, 1943
11. Mitsubishi J2M5, 1944
12. Kawanishi N1K2-Ja, 1944
13. Arado Ar-234B Blitz
14. Dornier Do-335V-13
15. Heinkel He-L-IIIB-2 Lerche
16. Heinkel He-162B
17. Heinkel He-162C
18. Messerschmitt Me-262HG-II
19. Focke-Wulf Ta-152C
20. Focke-Wulf Ta-183

21. Douglas A-20C, 1941
22. Ilyushin Il-10, 1945
23. Bereznyak-Isaev BI-6
24. Lavochkin LaGG-3R
25. Lavochkin La-7R
26. Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-9 Prototype
27. Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-9FS
28. Mikoyan-Gurevich I-250 (MiG-13)
29. Yakovlev Yak-3 VK-107A
30. Yakovlev Yak-3R
31. Yakovlev Yak-15

AI planes
Mitsubishi A5M4, 1938
Nakajima B6N2, 1943
Mitsubishi Ki-21-I, 1937
Mitsubishi Ki-21-II, 1940

I combined these lists from other sources, so possibly there are some errors. Or, perhaps the press release from Denmark has an error. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

darkhorizon11
10-08-2006, 09:20 PM
Maybe the Fokker got in... I know I saw beta pictures or whatever of it flying...

Or wasn't there another version of the Bi rocket? like the Bi-3 being added?

VW-IceFire
10-08-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Maybe the Fokker got in... I know I saw beta pictures or whatever of it flying...

Or wasn't there another version of the Bi rocket? like the Bi-3 being added?
Pretty sure that picture was photoshopped. The Bi-6 is the one you're looking for. Its on the list above.

PBNA-Boosher
10-08-2006, 09:35 PM
Just remembered: I also hope that with the CBI maps we're getting, we'll get a country selection choice for China, as it might be pointless having AVG scenarios without the Chinese Air Force.

WarWolfe_1
10-08-2006, 09:46 PM
Ty for posting the list http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What makes me mad is that there has been one and only one US plane added. Oh Well guess the USA had not a thing to do with the allies winning the war http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Skycat_2
10-08-2006, 09:56 PM
At one time it looked like the Curtiss CW-21B had a good chance of making it in (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=63110913&m=6311047382&r=4981032713), considering it was modelled by Gibbage and all. If there is a flyable #32 that we haven't acounted for, is it possible that this U.S. bird was quietly snuck in to avoid legal scrutiny?

Edit: And it would couple up nicely with Ian's free Burma map that is being included in the 4.06 addon.

Monty_Thrud
10-09-2006, 01:04 AM
Its the Spitfire Mk XIV, Tempest+11Lb and +13Lb...be sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Feathered_IV
10-09-2006, 01:52 AM
+1 for the Demon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

jasonbirder
10-09-2006, 02:04 AM
What makes me mad is that there has been one and only one US plane added

And where exactly would US planes fit into either the Japan vs Russian conflict in Manchuria (Either in 1939 or in 1945) or into a fictional Luftwaffe vs VVS 1946 conflict?

Thats like people saying why are there no German planes in the Pacific Fighters expansion...

carguy_
10-09-2006, 07:54 AM
Hardly,jasonbirder.

There are several latewar RAF/USAAF planes needed such as P51H/MustangIV or Tempest+11lb.There is no Vampire,no Meteor.We need also two more P51D boosted version for `45 scenarios as the present USAAF planeset goes as far as `44 making them really underpowered to what has been flown in `45.No Spit IVX http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Also no later mosquito variants.


I know,I know,we can switch P51D for MustangIII but they`re quite different planes.

I predicted that Oleg would never make western front even half as complete as EF.I don`t fly western front if I have EF online war.WF just has too many holes.

HuninMunin
10-09-2006, 08:18 AM
I think for a sim that started as single plane russion CAP the western front is quite extended. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

jasonbirder
10-09-2006, 08:33 AM
Ni I understand that to complete the planeset there are many more RAF, USAAF, USN etc Aircraft needed, but in the context of the two add ons...
1. An Historical IJN/IJA vs VVS planeset based in Manchuria 1939/1945
2. A conjectural Luftwaffe vs VVS planeset (fictional '46 setting) based on the Eastern front in 1946
Where would the RAF or USAAF/USN plames be relevent?

DuxCorvan
10-09-2006, 09:00 AM
SaQSoN -one of Maddox modellers and staff- quite confirmed in a thread that some planes that don't fit in the topic-related commercial add-ons, but were complete, would be released for free some time after the commercial add-ons. I think they were flyable Fokker D.XXI and Curtiss CW.21B, and AI Letov S.328 and Avia B.534, but we've had no more news since then.

So maybe 4.08, but who knows. Well, SOMEONE must know.

russ.nl
10-09-2006, 09:21 AM
It's a Russian company owned by a Russian guy. Ofcourse there are more Russian planes and conflict teathers in it. What would you do if it were your company.
Be glad with what you have and what you will get.

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-09-2006, 09:35 AM
Since waaaay before even Aces Over Europe in the mid 90's, I've been flying some version or iteration of a P-51 or Spitfire. I'm thankful to have them in this series, but I honestly appreciate the Russian planes a bit more because I've been exposed to an aspect of wartime aviation that I was quite ignorant to beforehand.

I had done some limited reading and could easily identify them via silhouette cards with ease, but could tell you relatively little about them...now I can. Sure there are 'gaps' in our current planesets and some are even blatant, but there is certainly much more covered than the simple basics. Quite the opposite actually.

You can call me a fanboi or whatever you want. The fact is, I've increased my knowledge, decreased my ignorance and maximized my enjoyment through this sim and being able to acquire the entire series in one DVD set will be the piece de resistence and a fine closing chapter to 'book one' with 'book two' being the BoB.

Once I have it all in one spot, it'll be easier to re-read though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif


TB

Philipscdrw
10-09-2006, 11:42 AM
Very well put Thunderbolt. I loved this series at first because it introduced me to a conflict I knew near-zero about before. I still love it, but fly any theatre noncommittaly.