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M2morris
03-16-2006, 12:48 AM
Just having some fun with a comet.
1st: Blast- off from a Japanese carrier
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/163a1.jpg
Then, try to be space-ship one
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/163a3.jpg
Try not to disentigrate on the way down
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/163a4.jpg
Find the strip
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/163a5.jpg
Ask God for a little more help
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/317a5d40.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/163a7.jpg
Run like hell
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/163a8.jpg

bienenbaer
03-16-2006, 04:39 AM
Did you manage to land on Kagi/Akagi with the Komet? If have seen this once ... while later on it only went SPLASH.

Tully__
03-16-2006, 06:06 AM
That'd be an Me163 then wouldn't it?

M2morris
03-16-2006, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Tully__:
That'd be an Me163 then wouldn't it?

Yep, I geuss I screwed that up because the 163 had skid and trolly, while the 263 had conventional gear and throttleable engine.
Besides it says 163 in the IL2 list. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Well I found a pretty cool link on rocket planes:

http://www.astronautix.com/lvfam/winged.htm

M2morris
03-16-2006, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by bienenbaer:
Did you manage to land on Kagi/Akagi with the Komet? If have seen this once ... while later on it only went SPLASH.

Ya I'm thinkin about trying that, try that is.

M2morris
03-17-2006, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by M2morris:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bienenbaer:
Did you manage to land on Kagi/Akagi with the Komet? If have seen this once ... while later on it only went SPLASH.

Ya I'm thinkin about trying that, try that is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I did try it. Amazingly I made it on the 1st attempt, but on the 2nd and 3rd I crashed( over the end of the carrier, and once with a hard landing blowing up. But on the 4th I climbed to about 3000M cut the engine and did a dead stick back to the carrier.

Heres a 30 sec clip of that 4th attempt.

http://www.rockwolfe.com/images/163onDeck.wmv

M2morris
03-17-2006, 01:08 AM
Can anyone notice what is wrong with my 163 before it lands?
Free FogHat tickets to the winner.

Waldo.Pepper
03-17-2006, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by M2morris:
Can anyone notice what is wrong with my 163 before it lands?
Free FogHat tickets to the winner.

You have no skid because you broke if off before landing. Also will never walk again. You would have broken your back in reality without the skid.

M2morris
03-17-2006, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M2morris:
Can anyone notice what is wrong with my 163 before it lands?
Free FogHat tickets to the winner.

You have no skid because you broke if off before landing. Also will never walk again. You would have broken your back in reality without the skid. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You got it Waldo! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

OT Great Waldo Pepper, good movie BTW. Saw it long time ago. I like when the little kid broght him gas all day during an event and got a free ride. Well anyway, good one.

Waldo.Pepper
03-17-2006, 02:18 AM
There's a movie?

M2morris
03-17-2006, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
There's a movie?

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell, but I'll risk an answere; yes there is a movie. Made in the 70s.

M2morris
03-17-2006, 02:56 AM
After reviewing the track of my 1st landing I did notice that I had ripped off my landing skid also before landing,so that is why I was able to stop, and I have found that landing on a carier with a skid is impossible unless I am flying with scuba gear, But these are the kind of things I do now at this time of night because my wife is 6 months pregnant so I will just forget the dam 163 carrier **** and move on with my life. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hmm , I think I'll try to land a B-25 on the Saratoga now.

GH_Klingstroem
03-17-2006, 02:59 AM
I saw a movie once!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

M2morris
03-17-2006, 03:05 AM
"The Great Waldo Pepper" Good movie, Redford, and some other famous actor, hell I dont know but it's a good bi-plane movie.

WarWolfe_1
03-17-2006, 04:02 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hmm , I think I'll try to land a B-25 on the Saratoga now.

You should try doing it with a TB3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

M2morris
03-17-2006, 04:10 AM
Hell I can't even get that B-25 to lift off from a carrier. I geuss the Doolittle boys had a strong headwind and some real desire to kick ***, and definatley more know-how than a chairborne pc geek like me trying it at a desk.

Waldo.Pepper
03-17-2006, 04:40 AM
I have found that landing on a carrier with a skid is impossible


I just love it when someone says that something is impossible. I just can't help myself from doing it after I hear something like that.

Here is a track of the impossible.

http://rapidshare.de/files/15716619/itsimpossible.ntrk.html

Still after you watch, you will realize that I used just about every advantage I could think of, short of using the recoil from the guns to help slow me down. (I thought about it!)

BorisGruschenko
03-19-2006, 08:01 AM
But how to land the 163 without propulsion - just as a glider ?
I figured out that getting rid of fuel and ammo is essential for a successful and reproduceable carrier landing, as due to changes in 4.0n ground friction seems to be modeled pretty low now, whereas the 163´slow speed handling improved dramatically. While slowing down this bird meant to drop it like a brick in earlier versions, now there´s a rather comfortable range of speeds to operate in without suffering from the feared "Kraftei-spine" afterwards. In spite of this improvement, carrier landings are still critical ops deserving proper energy management. I tried both, rollercoaster manoeuvres and slipping to control my "E" in approach of the deck and preferably use slipping now.
However - a japanese carrier looks way cooler with a decent hood ornament. Each carrier should have one. Ask the Tenno, he´ll second that, be sure.

http://rapidshare.de/files/15878984/tora_tora_tora_.ntrk.html