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XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 10:14 PM
I mean 1.1beta was the good version, right?!! Players on both axis and allies sides were generally happy with it. Only minor issues were complained about, but FMs were mostly balanced. Why did you ruin it in 1.11?? I mean how can there be such a huge difference between beta and final version, when everyone was happy with the beta?

Please give the man back his Bf109. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

T_Rom



Message Edited on 09/18/03 09:18PM by T_Rom

Message Edited on 09/18/0309:20PM by T_Rom

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 10:14 PM
I mean 1.1beta was the good version, right?!! Players on both axis and allies sides were generally happy with it. Only minor issues were complained about, but FMs were mostly balanced. Why did you ruin it in 1.11?? I mean how can there be such a huge difference between beta and final version, when everyone was happy with the beta?

Please give the man back his Bf109. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

T_Rom



Message Edited on 09/18/03 09:18PM by T_Rom

Message Edited on 09/18/0309:20PM by T_Rom

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 10:30 PM
My vote for reverting to 1.1b! I already did so.

I'm seriously wondering if I ever buy any product from 1C. If I want fantasy I'll play Neverwinter Nights.

XyZspineZyX
09-18-2003, 10:37 PM
Right T-Rom and the frame rate were also better in 1.1b
and got less online stutter.

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 02:03 AM
i love 1.1b

1.11 its a joke for LW


S!

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 12:36 PM
Same here, 1.1b. Pity about the sound problems.


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XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 02:37 PM
rgr for the sound problem, haven't they correct it yet !?

well yes i also prefer the beta patch, we had more balance between axis and allies.

Maybe on the next patch we'll Lock-on planes for allies and WWII planes for axis... fair enough for you ??

S~

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 05:39 PM
You guys don't know what your talking about. 109 is still unstopable if you fly it correctly or dont get jumped with huge altitude advantage. You can outdive anything but a jug and a 190, and outrun everything else, even on the deck. But if ya want to go back to 1.1b, good riddens I guess becuase we will have less whiners like you in hyperlobby. When your handed a lemon, make lemonade. If ya think your planes are so bad, make up for it by being a better pilot. Pilots in easy plane get lazy, use that lazyness.


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XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 05:45 PM
Adi Galland and I host in the HL with 1.1b

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XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 05:51 PM
I really can't see the huge difference what people talk about between 1.1b and 1.11.
The difference between 1.0 and 1.1b was was quite big.
With the hurricane certainly being a lot harder to handle.
I generally fly the YAK-3 online which is more twitchy now but still formidable.
I also like using the YAK-3 because of the noob calling /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
I get flamed for using what they call a 'noOb' plane and then I shoot them down with it!
It's so funny /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I think this reminds people that they're still playing a game.

BTW there are still the odd few people hosting 1.1b servers...

But they are the minority.

The best advice I think is to learn the new flight models and accept them because I don't think there will be another final patch for a while. Not now that developers are concentrating on the plane add-ons and the next line of IL2 whatever that might be...

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XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 06:56 PM
lbhskier37 wrote:
- You guys don't know what your talking about. 109 is
- still unstopable if you fly it correctly or dont get
- jumped with huge altitude advantage. You can
- outdive anything but a jug and a 190, and outrun
- everything else, even on the deck. But if ya want
- to go back to 1.1b, good riddens I guess becuase we
- will have less whiners like you in hyperlobby. When
- your handed a lemon, make lemonade. If ya think
- your planes are so bad, make up for it by being a
- better pilot. Pilots in easy plane get lazy, use
- that lazyness.
-


Funny your the odd one out in this thread ru saying ur the only one that knows what their on about?
Dont make me laugh about the 109 still being unstopable, bet ur one of these that flies UFO la's and yaks with their amazing 15 sec turn rates and 26 m/s climb rates against 109's that cant even reach their stated speed or climb rates who comes on here claiming u fly 109's all the time and that they are fine maybe hoping oleg will leave them so u can always have the advantage in ur UFO's.

Get a life go fly ur UFO u 1c buttlicker

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 06:58 PM
Went back to 1.1b and intend to stay there for as long as possible as this is the best FB version. Not 100% perfect, just clearly the best of the three available.

When the next add-on becomes available it becomes a dicey choice : do the new planes outweight the screwiness of the post-beta FB?

Presently I think I will not buy the Western Front add-on if it means screwing up the Eastern Front in 1.11 style.

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 07:11 PM
Yo can go to 1.1b and resolve also the sound problem:just keep the mg_snd.dll from the joke-version...

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 07:43 PM
The only file you need to swap out is 'files.SFS', if you already have sound working and set up pretty good. Otherwise take your chances with the whole package changing.

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 07:51 PM
1.11 a joke?

No way its the best update so far.
The Bombers are working great in this update , dont chance it oleg.
Just give us more flyable bombers.

I/KG26_Oranje.
He111 pilot 2e staffel , grubbe 1/KG26

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 07:55 PM
i forget , 1.1 beta was very bad voor the german bombers.
So 1,11 is the best we cane have on the moment to play bomber pilot.

Oranje

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 07:09 AM
johno__UK wrote:
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- lbhskier37 wrote:
-- You guys don't know what your talking about. 109 is
-- still unstopable if you fly it correctly or dont get
-- jumped with huge altitude advantage. You can
-- outdive anything but a jug and a 190, and outrun
-- everything else, even on the deck. But if ya want
-- to go back to 1.1b, good riddens I guess becuase we
-- will have less whiners like you in hyperlobby. When
-- your handed a lemon, make lemonade. If ya think
-- your planes are so bad, make up for it by being a
-- better pilot. Pilots in easy plane get lazy, use
-- that lazyness.
--
-
-
- Funny your the odd one out in this thread ru saying
- ur the only one that knows what their on about?
-
- Dont make me laugh about the 109 still being
- unstopable, bet ur one of these that flies UFO la's
- and yaks with their amazing 15 sec turn rates and 26
- m/s climb rates against 109's that cant even reach
- their stated speed or climb rates who comes on here
- claiming u fly 109's all the time and that they are
- fine maybe hoping oleg will leave them so u can
- always have the advantage in ur UFO's.
-
-
- Get a life go fly ur UFO u 1c buttlicker
-
-
-
-Well said Johno.
Had a 1 v 1 with my mate today i was in a G2 he was in a P-39N1. Well it looked like a P-39 but the moves were more like an SU27 with vectored thrust. Had a lot of mates leave, another went today http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. So buttlicker you can go shove your Red-Rookie crimson sky arcade patch. I'm flying 1.1b. Ok rookie.
~S~ Johno
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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 07:58 AM
I am contemplaiting the change back to 1.1b myself.

Some thing are stopping me though.

1. Geman planes now feel more stable in flight.

2. 262s are now more historical in performence.

3. AI 262s take of properly (not personally tested yethttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

4. Rad flaps are now fixed.

5. Contact altimeter on stuka.


The main reason I am thinking of changeing back to 1.1b is that the AI are so suicidal, pilot career tracking is impossible. In 1.1b this was very enjoyable.

Also the 190s engines are now very weak. Too weak for jabo missions.


How are the bombers now? is there an autopilot function seperate from the bombadear?
Do they now level bomb?


"Do unto others before they do unto you"

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 05:05 PM
Scragbat wrote:
- I generally fly the YAK-3 online which is more
- twitchy now but still formidable.
- I also like using the YAK-3 because of the noob
- calling
- I get flamed for using what they call a 'noOb' plane
- and then I shoot them down with it!
- It's so funny

It is called a noob plane because it is so easy to fly and dogfight in. It was built as a very pure dogfighter. So congratulations on taking one of the best pure dogfighters and shooting other aircraft down...

It's the equivalent of someone who claims to be a great fisherman taking TNT to go fishing. Not real impressive. Now if you take an early Mig 3 and do well against far better planes, then you have something to crow about.

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 05:19 PM
1.1b has got the radiator bug (leave it auto and you'll get max cooling + min drag) which compensates for the p0rked 109s. That's why especially many LW pilots prefer that one.

Not to have that most FUBAR FB sound in 1.1b just patch FB to 1.11 and then take the 1.1b files.SFS instead of the 1.11 one. That gives you 1.1b with 1.11 sound and core (graphics).


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 06:26 AM
There's an alternative, flip the overheat switch off. Plays amazingly like beta.