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pete9893
10-22-2004, 02:50 PM
in silent service you could fake your sinking to fool the destroyers. this was done by filling a torpedo tube with a dead body or two and anything else in the sub that would float to the surface, the destroyer would see it and think you were sunk and leave the area. will this be a option in SH3.

Drebbel
10-22-2004, 05:37 PM
IIRC SS just had the option "launch debris" (using the tubes of course)), I never found the option to stuff anything specific in the tube.

And lauching debris is not the way to go, it an invite to get another load of DC's. But if you are already almost sinking it could be a worthwhile risk to take.

SailorSteve
10-22-2004, 05:43 PM
http://207.44.164.159/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=23215

H-5

Boy, I'm getting tired of repeating that one.

"A whole bunch of stuff was unfinished, including aft and fore end of sub, some officer orders, decoys will be there (you can tell the weps to deploy them)"-Turnerg, who played the press demo at the Sub Club meet last week.

Heracles87
10-22-2004, 06:34 PM
Who is the poor crewmemeber who gets to be the "decoy dead body"? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

"Hans, I have a very special mission for you, crawl into that torpedo tube..."

SailorSteve
10-22-2004, 09:10 PM
"I promise you extra pay, extra beer and first pick of the girls when we get home." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

TASKFORCE1x1
10-23-2004, 01:24 AM
If I remember currectly The dev team mentioned that there will be "Kobold" as a counter measure.

KoBold is a cansiter in the water uses a soda like substance which when reacting with salt water causes bubbles creating a noise close to what we call cavitation like what our propellers make when they are over RPM'ed.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 12. (Skip): Will players have any countermeasures at their disposal to help throw off DD's?
(Devteam): SH3 will try to make the combat versus ASW vessels a very detailed part of the main gameplay. So as you will progress in the campaign expect to gain access to countermeasures such as Kobold decoys and anti-sonar coatings. --------------- <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Oh by the way pete9893 , Good to see new members. Good to have you here. Thankyou for the question. Keep 'em coming. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

macker33
10-25-2004, 08:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SailorSteve:
"I promise you extra pay, extra beer and first pick of the girls when we get home." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll do it!

watcher1971
10-25-2004, 01:42 PM
yes you are right in SH1 there was a button for "lauching debris" this lets hope it is in sh3

AK235
10-26-2004, 03:27 AM
For those tht were brave enough to look through the silent hunter II voices there was one for jettison debris but i dont no about u guys i never found a way of using debris so its kinda strange they put a voice in 4 it

SailorSteve
10-26-2004, 01:32 PM
It's common knowledge now that SHII was released incomplete. There are a lot of things in the game files that refer to systems that were never finished.

In Aces Of The Deep they let you launch Kobolds (or Bolds, which are ASDIC-misleading bubble clouds), in SHI you could launch debris (a lot more times than was really possible-how much debris do you have on board anyway), and if you'll look at the link I posted you'll see that SHIII also has a launch Bold option.

TASKFORCE1x1
10-26-2004, 03:12 PM
Would be great to be able to lay some oil in the ocean to fool the escorts to think they got a kill on us as we slip away silently.

bertgang
10-27-2004, 04:01 AM
The main problem with launching oil or debris is that the trick was well known by both sides.

Bolds were different, as they troubled asdic detection.

Philipscdrw
10-27-2004, 09:08 AM
Also, releasing oil into the ocean is bad for the environment.

SailorSteve
10-27-2004, 01:50 PM
Also also, if escorts see oil on the surface, they might assume the boat is damaged and close in for the kill! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

macker33
10-29-2004, 06:30 AM
I wouldnt be to hasty to try and fake my sinking at all,

The last thing you want to give a persuer is evidence,as long as you konw something he doesnt you should be ok.

HeibgesU999
01-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Peter "Ali" Cremer, would launch debris in conjunction with BOLD. He brainstormed this tactic with Werner Henke.

Licula
01-03-2005, 11:46 PM
I was sure you could release some oil in Silent Service II.

Teddy Bar
01-03-2005, 11:59 PM
All this will do is advertise your location.

U-551 Kapitan
01-04-2005, 12:30 AM
That trick from U-571 is certianly a long shot, and it would take a lot to pull it off. It works in the movies, but 'm not so sure as in real life.

one.zero
01-04-2005, 02:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Licula:
I was sure you could release some oil in Silent Service II. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Negative on this one....I don't recall seeing any such option. If you know of the method to do this, please do tell.

S VIIC_41
01-04-2005, 04:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>"I promise you extra pay, extra beer and first pick of the girls when we get home." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Karl... it was an honour serving with you"

*pulls out a luger*

Come on... I want to be able to pull out a luger in the command room! that'd be so cool... shooting would increase crew productivity but tire them faster.

Dominicrigg
01-04-2005, 07:32 AM
From Iron coffins

"Eight minutes after the blast, six more depth charges exploded astern. Then all remained silent for a long while, for well over an hour. THere was not a ping, not a beep,not a sound from above.

Having survived past the absolute limit of our air supply, we tempted the tommies into a move with a ahammer blow against the hull. There was no reaction. U-230 began her slow ascent.

19.55 : The lid of the hatch to the bridge flew open. Siegmann and I were thrown up onto the bridge by the tremendous overpressure that had built up inside the hull. Radiant sunshine. Air in abundance. But no enemy as far as teh eye could see. After a carefull check of sky and sea, we assessed our damages. The starboard aft oil bunker was broken wide open. Diesal oil had washed away, leaving a long treacherous trail of irridescent colours in our wake. To the enemy, a large oil slick was unmistakable evidence of a direct hit. That was why the british had departed."

There is another example i cant find where they are attacked and the depth charges blow some decking off the sub, this makes the destroyer think the ship is destroyed and leave. Two lucky escapes.

I like the authors quote for this escape with the decking. He says the destroyer captain shouldnt have left till he saw the white captains cap float up lol. Black humour...

Also i just thought of something, torpedoes could not be fired past a certain depth. The tubes and the toilet had to be sealed to outside or the water would rush in. So ejecting out debris when you were deep would be impossible anyway.

U-551 Kapitan
01-04-2005, 07:51 AM
Thinking of toilets, wouldn't it be great to show your appreciation to the Tommies for DCing you by flushing the toilet after a s***? As long as it's a floater, they'll get the message and hopefully depart, knowing not to screw with this kapitan.

Dominicrigg
01-04-2005, 07:56 AM
Uboat captain : Launch the message for the tommies!!

Destroyer watch officer : Sir, i think we got them, something is coming up.

Destroyer captain : Hold your fire... Wait... OH MY GOD!! ITS THE CAPTAINS LOG!!!

blue_76
01-04-2005, 08:07 AM
destroyer watch officer: captain, i hear something! something powerfull is aproaching the surface!
destroyer captain: what is it? hmm something is not right.. do i smell natural gas?
destroyer watch officer: captain! we are sinking! the gas is too strong!

SailorSteve
01-04-2005, 11:57 AM
My favorite 'debris' scene was from Operation Petticoat. When they're being attacked by their own forces, the captain orders debris and oil fired out of the torpedo tubes. When it doesn't work, and the attack continues, the captain has the nurses (whom the sub had previously evacuated from a U.S. base about to be captured) to remove their bras. When these float to the surface the captain in charge of the attack calls a halt. His reasoning? "Japanese women don't wear these"!

blue_76
01-04-2005, 12:01 PM
brilliant!