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Willey
12-27-2003, 10:26 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif What's this 1.22 I'm hearing about lately?? New patch in sight? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. When does it ship and what does it contain / what's planned? Some fixes? Or maybe even some new planes as a Xmas present (albeit a bit later http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)?

I'd bet if they can pack the 110G 'pit into CD addon, they can grab 3 other planes out of it and release them for free http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I'd appreciate the 163, the IARs and the 63C http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Willey
12-27-2003, 10:26 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif What's this 1.22 I'm hearing about lately?? New patch in sight? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. When does it ship and what does it contain / what's planned? Some fixes? Or maybe even some new planes as a Xmas present (albeit a bit later http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)?

I'd bet if they can pack the 110G 'pit into CD addon, they can grab 3 other planes out of it and release them for free http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I'd appreciate the 163, the IARs and the 63C http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AusDerReihe
12-27-2003, 11:24 AM
think i read somewhere that the 1.22 patch is for AI upgrade. not sure thou...

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Maple_Tiger
12-27-2003, 01:29 PM
I find the Artificial intelegence quit distrespectful.

For example, they disobey orders, they ram you if they dont like you and i think they take drugs to while flying, i notice sometimes the fly into mountains and stuff.

Its come to the point where i just dont trust them anymore.

p1ngu666
12-27-2003, 02:18 PM
ive seen em strafe downed planes, and will go after planes that are already terminal

LuftKuhMist
12-27-2003, 05:07 PM
Yeah! AI fix!!!

This would be great!

Thank you!

SeaFireLIV
12-27-2003, 06:21 PM
The AI is actually very good. I play the offline Campaign alot. The actual fighting stuff is good and just needs use of the Orders to get them off attacking your target or going somewhere you don`t want them to (yes get tapping on the TAB key!) In fights I have excellent battles.
The only real problems is in flight formations and landing, taxiing. They are almost blind once in these modes.
To be honest- FB is still incredibly fine and simply needs fine tuning in these areas. Apparently 1.22 is going to fix that.... Let`s hope.

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CARBONFREEZE
12-27-2003, 07:05 PM
It would be nice if you could tell them to drop bombs on command (or if you were the lead bomber to do it when you release) for high altitude bombing in He-111/Ju-88

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German aircraft require ten times that skill, and one hundred times the patience!

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AusDerReihe
12-27-2003, 08:35 PM
found the link to where Oleg mentions the 1.22 patch:

http://oldsite.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=98;t=006236;p=2
(posted 12/19/03)

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GvSAP_Dart
12-27-2003, 09:51 PM
At least the AI have an excuse - they're just mindless bots.

When people online do the exact same things it makes me wonder, though...

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VW-IceFire
12-27-2003, 09:57 PM
Maybe they can fix the two major sound problems too:

1) overly loud guns on some vehicles (bug)
2) sound extensions on virtually all creative cards using creative sound blaster settings result in 20ft oil drum sound inside cockpit

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Willey
12-28-2003, 06:41 AM
An AI upgrade is a definite must-be-done. I'd just say these things:

gunners (especially the ability to snipe the cigar off your mouth out of a spinning fortess http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)
Flak/AAA
bombers turning and doing aerobatics like A6Ms when beeing attacked
AIs ramming each other / the player
AIs stealing kills
etc etc etc http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Extreme_One
12-28-2003, 07:20 AM
Surely the 1.22 patch will be the type which comes around every so often, makes a few changes to FMs and AI etc and adds some new planes too!

I can't wait!

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WUAF_Gen_Falco
12-28-2003, 08:39 AM
Hey guys, I been to Electronique boutique ( EB GAMES store) and asked the guy there about the add on.

Release date he gave me; February 25th. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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IV_JG51_Razor
12-28-2003, 09:37 AM
What did the guy at EB say the new add-on is called?!! I haven't seen anything regarding a title, or ad-art, so I just assumed that all this talk of early Feb was just that - talk. I would think that long before this add-on hits the shelves, we'd see at least a title, or some box art.

LeadSpitter_
12-28-2003, 01:19 PM
and the 190 dm is stronger cough bs oleg needs to stop listening to the whines

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robban75
12-28-2003, 01:49 PM
The 190 doesn't need a stronger DM only a better one. I haven't seen anyone craving for a stronger 190 DM in the serious threads Leadspitter, so please, save it.

I hope for a rollrate decrease on the 190, aswell as for the Yak's. And especially the La-7 and P-39.

LeadSpitter_
12-28-2003, 02:19 PM
robban75, I couldnt agree more with you, I think a stronger dm isnt the solution either for the 190 but thats olegs decesion and has made it already. I also couldnt agree more with the 190 yak la7 p39 mig3u rollrate reduction but olegs call again and remains the same.

robban75 you please save it

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robban75
12-28-2003, 02:40 PM
Ok, I'll save it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

kyrule2
12-28-2003, 02:53 PM
Leadspiiter spouting his classic bullsh1t again. Nobody wants a stronger DM, we all want a complex DM for the 190. This "quest" for a stronger DM is something you have created on your own. Do you have to put this in every thread, its getting old.

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Captain_Avatar
12-28-2003, 05:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Gen_Falco:
Hey guys, I been to Electronique boutique ( EB GAMES store) and asked the guy there about the add on.

Release date he gave me; February 25th. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

S~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah! My Birthday! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WUAF_Gen_Falco
12-28-2003, 11:05 PM
I live in Montreal, Canada (Ubi Soft's main location), dunno for other country release dates, Usually it's all the same, but i wish you get it on time for your birthday http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The guy at EB Games store told me he foud it as Forgotten_addon or something very similar. Dunno how it's been written on his screen but that's how he called it.

S~

WUAF_Gen_Falco
12-29-2003, 12:20 AM
Hmmm by the way, just found out a release date, probably for USA. It seems like you will get it ( IN USA) a few days before us in Canada.

February 18... at EB GAmes stores.

Check this link:

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/deptpage.asp?wherefrom=comingsoon&web_dept=PC+Games&intpageno=3


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Extreme_One
12-29-2003, 01:19 AM
Beware of 3rd party addons!
There are at least 2 in the pipeline, so either of these may be the one EB was talking about and not the official 1C Maddox addon.

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WUAF_Gen_Falco
12-29-2003, 01:28 AM
Well, i'd be impressed to pay that much for a 3rd party addon. That's too expansive to be one. I bet it's the expected addon from 1C.

It comes on time as well, since i've 1st heard of January when they talked about it.

S~

LeadSpitter_
12-29-2003, 03:29 AM
well you have to wait and see kyrule2, I know already

and there is armor plating modeled behind the 190 pit, there is engine damage as well as fuel leaks evevator alierons rudder canopy deflections but needs tuning to the engine hits so whos making up the bs that the 190 doesnt have a complex damage model my friend.

BTW i never requested or wanted a stronger dm for the 190 but seen you fw190fan and akdavis post about it since 1.21 came out

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SuomiPilotti
12-29-2003, 04:41 PM
Only problem with AI is that they are kill stealers! I fly Hurricane mk.2.c on offline campaign. I shoot Fw-190 into a wing. 190 starts to spin because of MY cannons. I see pilot bailing out. 190 falls. Then those damn Rata fighters start to shoot that spinning 190. They hit it, but don´t do any real damage. 190 hits the ground, and that damn Rata gets a kill. I´m OUTRAGED!

p1ngu666
12-29-2003, 06:03 PM
noooooooo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
2 months away http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
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kyrule2
12-29-2003, 08:48 PM
For the thousandth time Leadspitter we WANT A COMPLEX DM FOR THE 190 NOT A STRONGER ONE. I can't believe you STILL don't get it.

Funny, AKD posted Oleg's comment awhile back about the 190 not having a complex DM. But I'm sure you know more about FB than Oleg. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

No bullet holes in cockpit, no holes in wings, no oil on windscreen, no damage to engine where it slowly dies (its either dead or loses a signinficant, one time, seemingly set amount of power, or it is fine), no slow degradation of power, no sticking of throttle, control surfaces are either blown off or undamaged, etc.

And I never said fuel leaks and cockpit armor are not modelled. This has no bearing on complex DM either as these were present in IL-2 days (which 190 still seems to have DM from).

I don't know why I am even bothering, you obviously cannot read. AKD, FW-190fan, Isbskier, myself, and others have made our point quite convincingly IMHO. I'm sorry you cannot tell the difference between the request for a more detailed DM and a stronger one.

And yes, we will see.

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LeadSpitter_
12-30-2003, 09:02 AM
well your not getting it kyrule like I said you will have to wait and see and you akd fw190fan are the reason the 190 has the most unrealistic movement in the game. All your whining about your favorite plane has resulted in ridiculous roll and reverse roll, instant snap rolls with the slightest touch of rudder, you cannot even get into an un recoverable stall anymore 190 you just let go of the stick and your flying normal again. I blame you guys and oleg listening to you for that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And btw wing damage is shown, the engine can take fatal hits where it slowly dies I suggest you fly more. I bet I do fly this sim more then oleg does as many others who play almost everyday on HL.

The ones who know the most about fb isnt oleg either but Egorov, Antonov, Soldatenkov, and Kryachko. You guys talk like oleg designed modeled and programmed the whole game which isnt the case. I dont like to argue at all but you should seriously wise up.


you dont realize who your speaking to obviously and never will

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robban75
12-30-2003, 10:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
All your whining about your favorite plane has resulted in ridiculous roll and reverse roll, instant snap rolls with the slightest touch of rudder, you cannot even get into an un recoverable stall anymore 190 you just let go of the stick and your flying normal again.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't have any recollection about anyone complaining about the roll on the 190 being slow. I guess we all were surprised when the 190 received it's now insane rollrate. Unrecoverable stalls with the 190 was very hard if not impossible to acheive. A simple let go of the stick is all that was needed in RL. This is very well modelled in FB.

Rollrate is off for many planes. Especially the La-7, P-39 and Yak's with their 180 deg/sec rollrate. AFAIK only the 190 was capable of that in RL. For snap rolls the 190 was king!

Aardvark892
12-30-2003, 11:31 AM
Von Schnitter (? did I get the name right, apologies if not) made a comment that is the one main thing about AI I don't like:

"An example: I am flying in a campaign, having a good time looking at the nice pits, clouds and landscape you recieve a call like "Fighters ! 12 o´clock !" and you start looking around - nothing, 1 minute, nothing, 2 minutes nothing and your ai comrades keep flying along on the same course and heading.
That means, the call came from a different flight of course, and you have no way of telling from which one. A simple flight identification going with the call would have helped a lot."

I really wish this could be incorporated, but I DO know it isn't easy to add stuff to any game, especially one as complex as FB.

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warriorbear
12-30-2003, 03:00 PM
I would just like a random setting for variety.

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kyrule2
12-30-2003, 04:45 PM
Leadspitter you really are a clueless a$$hole. NEVER have I complained about roll-rate or any related handling issue. You need to stop making this stuff up, you're really making an a$$ out of yourself. So go ahead and blame whoever you like, nobody gives a damn. It just goes to show that you are sick in the head by blaming people for things that were never even said or suggested. Several times I have posted (very recently in fact in Skychimp's thread) asking for the roll-rate to be reduced because it is more harmful than helpful. And I don't need to fly more, you need to listen/read more. I think Oleg would know if the 190 has a complex DM or not, or are you that arrogant that you think you know better?

And I don't know who I'm speaking to? Who the hell are you? You fly more than Oleg and you are on HL everyday? Congratulations you f*cking geek.

I don't need to wise up, and I know exactly who I am talking to. A misinformed, arrogant, trolling sack of sh!t, nothing more.

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LeadSpitter_
12-31-2003, 04:24 PM
happy new year kyrule

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