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Gazitron
04-26-2010, 11:53 PM
Seir what is the best way to ask devs to publish some map sources for modding site? Cause it will open our eyes on some difficult momments which we can't get.

Thank you.

seir
04-27-2010, 12:50 AM
The best idea is to contact some people from Techland that are responsible for relations with community:

http://www.techland.pl/?id=fir...ial=public_relations (http://www.techland.pl/?id=firma&rodzaj=ludzie_i_kontakty&dzial=public_relations)

I'm a Level Designer here so I can't make such a decisions...

Gazitron
04-28-2010, 01:30 AM
So I've contacted them and they told me that some DL will publish map sources soon. So we will wait for you Seir http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

seir
04-28-2010, 02:53 AM
Nice, who told you that?

Gazitron
04-28-2010, 12:22 PM
Yeah, Pawel Kopinski told me that. He said he will demand to publish 1SP and 1MP map but maybe deal will be like that: 2SP maps or 2SP maps + 1MP map.

Gazitron
05-03-2010, 01:57 PM
So will techland's team publish some map sources as they promised?

seir
05-03-2010, 02:01 PM
I still don't know the details, we have a holidays (1-3 may) in Poland... If you don't know:

"1791 – The Polish Constitution of May 3, one of the earliest codified national constitutions in the world, was adopted by the Sejm."

Gazitron
05-03-2010, 10:31 PM
Wow - congratulations!!! =)
It's too bad Poland didn't have independence for a long time...

seir
05-04-2010, 01:09 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I was talking with Pawel and as I know I have to prepare few source files to release but I can't tell you when...

seir
05-04-2010, 05:26 AM
This is a hack and it's a bit wrong because you lost all the references between objects, maybe even layer info and so on. This might get you wrong when checking how it's made... That's why MAP file is better than hacking compiled files.

Zancara
05-04-2010, 06:52 AM
Dear Seir

Hack is a very strong word to use in this matter. There is no hacking in is this. The ChromeEditor does all the work for you and all the references, groups and so on is there. And all objects will be in the main layer. I have tested that on my own map to be shure off that. But I agree that the original mapfile would have been better. So we have to wait for the original maps to show up sometimes in the future.

seir
05-04-2010, 11:19 AM
It's not a typical way to open map so it's some kind of hack. Maybe you have a different way to open it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Meanwile the maps are in process of preparing to release.

Gazitron
05-04-2010, 12:14 PM
wow! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Zankara you made me cry =) I was so disappointed when I saw here screenshot of my map source http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Now I understand Seir and I also feel like somebody has hacked my work - my private work without any permission. Cause now you are able to see all secretes of my map (such as my map had to be 3 times bigger) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Did you test all maps and did they work Zankara?
At this point I have some questions to you about this decompilation - here is my email daniel1111@yandex.ru

Seir don't worry I will not hack maps and will not decompile them until you will post original map sources. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Zancara
05-05-2010, 08:24 AM
First of all please write my name right!

Second! You have asked if we could get the maps and a have showed you that you can do it by yourself. Therefore I used your own map so you could see that it was working. Sorry for that. I now have removed the pictures. And your have to wait for Techland because I have decided that I won't publish "How to do".

No more access to my website and I will removed my map from COJMODDING.COM because NOBODY shall ever accuse me of hacking. It's seems to me that you or Seir don't know the meaning of that word. What the ChromeEditor does by itself can never be hacking. I have spend the last 30 years of my life in programming a lot of apps, programs, websites etc. And I have always respected other peoples work. Buyed a program if I needed it and not used hacked or copied programs. Can you say the same.

End of discussion.

seir
05-05-2010, 10:30 AM
Send me a PM.

Zancara
05-05-2010, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by seir:
Send me a PM.

I have one to you

Gazitron
05-05-2010, 11:38 PM
Ok Zankara,
first of all - I am not agree about hacking!!! I said only about that you shew mics of my map source =)
I agree with you that this is NOT A HACK!!!
Cause for example: you bought microwave oven and decided to open all sides and lids and watch how it works inside and what inside of it - THIS IS 10000000% LEGALLY! BUT! If you will use it in your commercial needs - it will be ILLEGAL. The same is with PC programs and PC games (software). If you will open source maps and will sell them, or sell the secretes and ideas of the maps (developer's ideas) - it will be illegal. Now you have opened map sources just for your pleasure and not for commercial needs!

Seir did you see www.modDB.com? (http://www.modDB.com?) Here is about 100000 mods for every game and modders modify, change, decompilate PC games! And nobody hurt them cause this is 100000% LEGALLY!!!

And hack means if you hacked some soft by keygen etc or used software files without any permissions AND for your commercial needs!

Sorry Zancara - your 30 years experience is AWESOME! Anyway please send me a message cause I want to learn from you some tips. http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

VinzeO_o
05-08-2010, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Zancara:
First of all please write my name right!

Second! You have asked if we could get the maps and a have showed you that you can do it by yourself. Therefore I used your own map so you could see that it was working. Sorry for that. I now have removed the pictures. And your have to wait for Techland because I have decided that I won't publish "How to do".

No more access to my website and I will removed my map from COJMODDING.COM because NOBODY shall ever accuse me of hacking. It's seems to me that you or Seir don't know the meaning of that word. What the ChromeEditor does by itself can never be hacking. I have spend the last 30 years of my life in programming a lot of apps, programs, websites etc. And I have always respected other peoples work. Buyed a program if I needed it and not used hacked or copied programs. Can you say the same.

End of discussion.

I know this isn't really any of my business, but, you're comming off rather arrogant, just some advice in case you want people to take you seriously. It's the whole deal on barging in and correcting an official level designer, and then knitpick on people's spelling.

You need to work on that, aracnaZ.

Gazitron
05-08-2010, 11:30 PM
VinzeO_o

Zancara is too cool and powerful person to speak with you and even to read your message LOL

VinzeO_o
05-09-2010, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Gazitron:
VinzeO_o

Zancara is too cool and powerful person to speak with you.

Well... That's a releif...

Also, small edit to Zancara:
Thirty years of programming experience is worthless, mainly due to that computers constantly evolve, so your knowledge of them back in the 80's is obsolete now. You may know what you're doing, but you sure as hell aren't superiour to anyone just because you've done it for a while. Sorry for busting your chops like that, but, I don't like when people boast and act arrogant, it's annoying.

seir
05-09-2010, 03:19 PM
Gazitron - are you a Zancara's press secretary...? Keep your thoughts about other people out of the forum...

Gazitron
05-10-2010, 12:42 PM
Everybody forgot about word - "PLEASE"!!!

VinzeO_o
05-10-2010, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Gazitron:
Everybody forgot about word - "PLEASE"!!!

"Well... That's a releif...

Also, small edit to Zancara:
Thirty years of programming experience is worthless, mainly due to that computers constantly evolve, so your knowledge of them back in the 80's is obsolete now. You may know what you're doing, but you sure as hell aren't superiour to anyone just because you've done it for a while. Sorry for busting your chops like that, but, I don't like when people boast and act arrogant, it's annoying. Please.

...How does that make any sense? >_<

You seem like a decent person, Gazitron, but I still can't help taking the **** on this whole thing.

Gazitron
05-10-2010, 05:05 PM
Seir please close this topic, thank you in advance.