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Xiolablu3
01-28-2007, 01:38 AM
I am reading 'Sea Harrier over the Falklands' by 'Sharkey' Ward, right now and he keeps talking about how he 'Pickled' his bombs or something..

Can anyone pls explain? (Great book btw)

WWMaxGunz
01-28-2007, 01:47 AM
Bomb release switch is called the pickle switch.

I knew a WWII bombardier.

When you're hot "you can drop the bombs into a pickle barrel from 20,000 feet".

The pickle barrel is the idea bombardier target, the perfect drop, etc.

FritzGryphon
01-28-2007, 01:48 AM
'Pickle' means to release bombs.

The term comes from an early CCIP pipper, though I don't recal exactly which plane. The pipper was a circle with bumps around it, and looked like a pickle.

Edit: Or the pipper was made to look like a pickle in accordance with the existing pickle name.

Aaron_GT
01-28-2007, 01:56 AM
I thought the derivation was from the Norden sight allowing you to 'put a bomb in a pickle barrel from 30000 feet'.

Oops - someone beat me to that suggestion I see.

Akronnick
01-28-2007, 02:30 AM
To answer your question, to 'Pickle' your bombs means to release the Weapon. In modern Western Aircraft, this is usually done by pressing the 'Pickle' button, that's the big red one on top of the stick, as opposed to the trigger, which fires the gun (and sometimes missiles) and is located on the front of the stick, under your index finger.

Hannibales
01-28-2007, 08:08 AM
I always thought that in its modern usage 'pickling' meant to actively designate the target, with a laser for instance.

AWL_Spinner
01-28-2007, 08:26 AM
It's a very entertaining book! If you'd like more of the same without quite so much inter-squadron and inter-service griping, try David Morgan's recent "Hostile Skies". Morgan flew for 800 NAS and claimed the most kills in the conflict.

Both very good accounts - I am currently wading through "Vulcan 607", covering the Black Buck raids.

Oh, and on the same subject matter I'd recommend "100 Days" by Sandy Woodward; if you're interested in more than just the air component.

Regards, Spinner.

Skycat_2
01-28-2007, 08:39 AM
"The stork" --> dropping babies down chimneys --> Vlassic's mascot is a stork --> Vlassic sells pickles --> you drop pickles on a hamburger --> Bombers dropped pickles on Hamburg --> you can put bacon on a burger --> Kevin Bacon.

Xiolablu3
01-28-2007, 09:39 AM
Thanks for your replies! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have to say that this :-


Originally posted by Hannibales:
I always thought that in its modern usage 'pickling' meant to actively designate the target, with a laser for instance.

sounds the most likely answer for the part I am reading now (but I could be wrong), but probably SPinner, who has read the book will be able to say for sure?

LStarosta
01-28-2007, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Skycat_2:
"The stork" --> dropping babies down chimneys --> Vlassic's mascot is a stork --> Vlassic sells pickles --> you drop pickles on a hamburger --> Bombers dropped pickles on Hamburg --> you can put bacon on a burger --> Kevin Bacon.

LOL that reminds me of a particular episode of South Park.

AWL_Spinner
01-28-2007, 10:19 AM
I always thought that in its modern usage 'pickling' meant to actively designate the target, with a laser for instance....

sounds the most likely answer for the part I am reading now (but I could be wrong), but probably Spinner, who has read the book will be able to say for sure?

There was no active designation of targets for air-dropped bombs in the Falklands conflict - only toward the very end were some Laser Guidance kits delivered and, though some experimentation was carried out, they didn't play any significant role (there's a section on this at the end of Morgan's book).

Sharkey is using the term to note the dropping of a weapon.

kd6pn
01-28-2007, 05:11 PM
"Pickle" means drop the load for a reason other than hitting the target. Examples here at EAFB: 1)F-16 took off out of balance, in order to save his aircraft, he "pickled" his load of [unarmed] mk82 iron bombs just clear of the runway. 2)F-15 "pickled" his ordnance at the range because he had an engine flameout. 3)CH-47 helicopter "pickled" his sling load because of overtorque indication. To "pickle" the load is usually an emergency event. It means dumping the load for a hurried, nontargeted reason.

Lucius_Esox
01-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Pickle just means drop your bombs.

mean_mango
01-28-2007, 09:46 PM
I think this dates back to the interwar years when aerial bombing proponents were boasting that the new bombsite device was so accurate, it would be possible to drop a bomb into a pickle barrel from thousands of feet above.

Something I picked up in "Air Power", an excellent text on the development of aviation as a weapon.
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Xiolablu3
01-29-2007, 06:05 AM
Thanks for your replies chaps http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skycat_2:
"The stork" --> dropping babies down chimneys --> Vlassic's mascot is a stork --> Vlassic sells pickles --> you drop pickles on a hamburger --> Bombers dropped pickles on Hamburg --> you can put bacon on a burger --> Kevin Bacon.

LOL that reminds me of a particular episode of South Park. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Bakin' Bacon' with Makon? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ZhHgwzhE4

Butters with Balls on his Chin :-
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Parker and Stone are fantastic. They make the best comedy in the world today IMO. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-29-2007, 06:27 AM
Pickle is a silly term.