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drose01
10-30-2005, 02:27 PM
I'm sure everyone has taken some damage and suddenly had the windscreen splattered with oil.

Depending on what you are flying, this is either a a minor annoyance or a catastrophic loss of visibility.

In a Spit or a 109, black stains over your gunsight and it is almost impossible to continue to fight. But in a P47, the most crucial parts of the visual field are not affected, letting you fight and fly with only a minor inconvenience.

For this pattern of visibility impairment to occur exactly the same way each time on each aircraft of a particular type when an oil leak happens seems unrealistic.

If possible, it would seem better to have several different patterns of oil spray, which could occur randomly when the engine damage occurs. Of course, planes that would be less likely to have bad visibility with oil leak should experience it less often. But I'm sure there should be times when a P47 pilot cant see due to oil splatter and times when a Spit pilot has only a bit of oil splatter visibility problems.

JG5_UnKle
11-02-2005, 06:43 AM
Sounds good

Plus it would be cool for LW aircraft to be able to spray fuel to clear the screen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Sturm_Williger
11-02-2005, 09:15 AM
Yes, it would be nice if they'd modelled a "dark" oil stain and a "light" one.

Then when you spray your fuel on the windscreen ( need another button ), it goes from dark to light, allowing some ( but not perfect ) visibility.

But variable oil stain size/shape would be good too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LEXX_Luthor
11-02-2005, 01:04 PM
Corsair pilots need the ability to Pilot Lean outside and wipe oil off the windscreen with Pilot Sock. But first we need the controls to enable a pilot to remove his/her sock. Or was that a Hellcat pilot? Somebody did that, leaned out and wiped oil with his sock. That happened in Pacific, and could never happen in Europe because the pilot sock would be frozen solid (especially P-38 pilot sock) and so probably not removable in flight.

GH_Klingstroem
11-02-2005, 01:53 PM
Does anyone remember the old game "Secret weapons of the Luftwaffe" from the early 90s?? There an oil leak would come slowly as a spray on ur windscreen and would gradualy make u blind... Was a quite cool effect now when I think back...

cheers

jamesdietz
11-02-2005, 02:01 PM
Lexx- I believe this is possible with TrackIR4 Vector Pro ( Navy Version Type .030)soon available ...but it is my understanding that TrackIR Vector Sock ( Pat.Pending)must be purchased separately....

albundy777
11-02-2005, 04:51 PM
I think it would be cool if it faded over time, as if the wind was blowing it off slowly.

BelaLvgosi
11-02-2005, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by JG5_UnKle:
Sounds good

Plus it would be cool for LW aircraft to be able to spray fuel to clear the screen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m...431034522#3431034522 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3431034522/r/3431034522#3431034522)

:X

Anyway, the idea of random oil damage effects or some additive animation would be a nice touch for future series. Sort of like that condensation build animation over the canopy in lock on.

TAGERT.
11-04-2005, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by drose01:
I'm sure everyone has taken some damage and suddenly had the windscreen splattered with oil.

Depending on what you are flying, this is either a a minor annoyance or a catastrophic loss of visibility.

In a Spit or a 109, black stains over your gunsight and it is almost impossible to continue to fight. But in a P47, the most crucial parts of the visual field are not affected, letting you fight and fly with only a minor inconvenience.

For this pattern of visibility impairment to occur exactly the same way each time on each aircraft of a particular type when an oil leak happens seems unrealistic.

If possible, it would seem better to have several different patterns of oil spray, which could occur randomly when the engine damage occurs. Of course, planes that would be less likely to have bad visibility with oil leak should experience it less often. But I'm sure there should be times when a P47 pilot cant see due to oil splatter and times when a Spit pilot has only a bit of oil splatter visibility problems. It is doable, in that it was done in a PC flight sim some 13 years ago. SWOTL had a nice effect that showed oil drops forming on the window.. the longer you flew, the less you could see, so, once you got a leak you were rtb or else.

Interminate
11-04-2005, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by TAGERT.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drose01:
I'm sure everyone has taken some damage and suddenly had the windscreen splattered with oil.

Depending on what you are flying, this is either a a minor annoyance or a catastrophic loss of visibility.

In a Spit or a 109, black stains over your gunsight and it is almost impossible to continue to fight. But in a P47, the most crucial parts of the visual field are not affected, letting you fight and fly with only a minor inconvenience.

For this pattern of visibility impairment to occur exactly the same way each time on each aircraft of a particular type when an oil leak happens seems unrealistic.

If possible, it would seem better to have several different patterns of oil spray, which could occur randomly when the engine damage occurs. Of course, planes that would be less likely to have bad visibility with oil leak should experience it less often. But I'm sure there should be times when a P47 pilot cant see due to oil splatter and times when a Spit pilot has only a bit of oil splatter visibility problems. It is doable, in that it was done in a PC flight sim some 13 years ago. SWOTL had a nice effect that showed oil drops forming on the window.. the longer you flew, the less you could see, so, once you got a leak you were rtb or else. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It might be real, this slick, but I find it somewhat overdone. I would think oil viscosity is enough at those speeds to give and get a little. It is crippling as it is. I think random amounts of oil are a good idea, maybe 4 different splats.

JG5_UnKle
11-04-2005, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by BelaLvgosi:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG5_UnKle:
Sounds good

Plus it would be cool for LW aircraft to be able to spray fuel to clear the screen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m...431034522#3431034522 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3431034522/r/3431034522#3431034522)

:X

Anyway, the idea of random oil damage effects or some additive animation would be a nice touch for future series. Sort of like that condensation build animation over the canopy in lock on. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aaah RGR that, would still be cool if you got "oiled" after hitting the guy in front http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

SeaFireLIV
11-04-2005, 11:50 AM
The random oil spread idea is an excellent one and would solve the problem of one plane having worse visibility than another in an unfair way. There could be 2 to 3 (possibly more) different `splash` graphics on the windscreen of vary visibility which could be randomised.

With this, one plane may have worse vis than another, but on another occasion it may not. All relying a bit on each pilot`s luck rather than the plane they fly. Some planes would probably be exempt (like the P39 maybe).