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GH_Klingstroem
12-24-2006, 06:19 AM
none of the US planes yaw when firing anymore! However the recoil for US planes only has increased so the recoil when firing the 6 0.50s is equal to the 30mm cannon which makes it difficult to kepp ur sight on target! Have no idea why they did this! The only one not having this effect id the p38. Maybe they wanted to point out that the p38 was a very stable platform... However, p40, p51s p47s and the US navy planes etc etc when firing have HUUUGE recoils (but no yawing)...

Akronnick
12-24-2006, 06:35 AM
Originally posted by GH_Klingstroem:
none of the US planes yaw when firing anymore! However the recoil for US planes only has increased so the recoil when firing the 6 0.50s is equal to the 30mm cannon which makes it difficult to kepp ur sight on target! Have no idea why they did this! The only one not having this effect id the p38. Maybe they wanted to point out that the p38 was a very stable platform... However, p40, p51s p47s and the US navy planes etc etc when firing have HUUUGE recoils (but no yawing)...

So your complaining that the recoil of 6*.50 BMG is >= 1*30mm?

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GH_Klingstroem
12-24-2006, 02:38 PM
who said anything about complaining! I said, and I can say it again so u too understand, maybe ur english isnt good enough "The only planes that have it are the ones I mentioned above" no other planes with MGs have that huge recoil. Thats a statement! The p38 has the same recoil as in 4.05. For the p-51 I think this is correct since she wasnt the most stable platform. The p47 I have never heard wether she was a stable platform or not, however I assume it was! I wonder why they changed the recoil for certain planes??? Any ideas guys??? Has anyone read someting about it anywhere??
cheers

PBNA-Boosher
12-24-2006, 03:46 PM
Don't have it yet, so I wouldn't know, but why don't you check your joystick settings? Sometimes that happens. Or you might just be so happy that there's no recoil that you're shaking the control column too much.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Klemm.co
12-24-2006, 03:49 PM
I have read something about it somewhere, but dont ask me where and what exactly. What i read was that when firing the 6-8 .50cals with their combined recoil really DID slow the plane down a considerably amount. Maybe somebody at MG got some numbers on that or calculated the recoil force and they changed that.
If you didn't notice yet, the cannons of most cannon-armed planes were desynched, too. So there is some chance that the recoil forces for that planes were looked at again, too.
The visible recoil for the 109 E-4 is stronger now, too so i think that the recoil for it was made stronger too.
Ever read stories about pilots shoothing at a low-speed stall and then stalling full and spinning out because of the recoil? Maybe that can be recreated now. Would be really cool.

joeap
12-24-2006, 05:14 PM
First of all, recoil seems to be stronger for all planes, second it's not as bad as you make out, I have no trouble hitting on target with US planes.

arjisme
12-24-2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by joeap:
First of all, recoil seems to be stronger for all planes, second it's not as bad as you make out, I have no trouble hitting on target with US planes. The first thing I noticed - something I hadn't seen before - was a visible shaking of the site when firing the .50's now. The site kind of blurs now when firing MG's. Well, that's a generalization -- I only tried this in the P-51D NA. Not sure to what degree it exists on other planes yet.

GH_Klingstroem
12-24-2006, 07:15 PM
Cant notice any different recoil with the force feedback for any other plane exept .50s equipped ones. However the p38 with 4 .50s in the nose doesnt have this shaking when firing. I have the MS Sidewinder FF joystick and with FF enabled, the recoil makes it very difficult to aim! So they finally made the AC more stable when firing but then compensated by making the recoil big enough to still make ur bullets go all over the place... Im just asking why? Cant feel anything different with other planes tho! However the joystick is more stiff for every plane!! this I like alot!!

TC_Stele
12-24-2006, 10:49 PM
Gun recoil is a big notice.

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WolfOWinter2
12-24-2006, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Klemm.co:
I have read something about it somewhere, but dont ask me where and what exactly. What i read was that when firing the 6-8 .50cals with their combined recoil really DID slow the plane down a considerably amount.

I saw an interview of a F86 Sabre Pilot saying after (and while being in hot pursuit of Mig15s), that firing the six .50 guns to early cost him enough speed that he had to break of pursuit (or something like that), my memory on this is not crystal clear, but the effect of the guns firing slowing him down, was stated.

VFA-195 Snacky
12-24-2006, 11:45 PM
I'll take a little recoil over wobble anyday.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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GR142-Pipper
12-25-2006, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by GH_Klingstroem:
none of the US planes yaw when firing anymore! However the recoil for US planes only has increased so the recoil when firing the 6 0.50s is equal to the 30mm cannon which makes it difficult to kepp ur sight on target! Have no idea why they did this! The only one not having this effect id the p38. Maybe they wanted to point out that the p38 was a very stable platform... However, p40, p51s p47s and the US navy planes etc etc when firing have HUUUGE recoils (but no yawing)... Actually, the gun effects regarding the 50's seem pretty accurate. Guys, that's how these guns actually sound inside the cockpit when they do fire. You can hear them and feel them. I like the new gun sound.

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BrotherVoodoo
12-25-2006, 03:11 PM
With the additional recoil the FFB seems much stronger too. I know it is throwing me off more than before.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VMF-214_HaVoK
12-25-2006, 08:51 PM
I love the new recoil. To me its much more accurate and realistic. This is a great patch/addon. Oleg and Luthier have done an outstanding job imo. I just hope not too much changes in 4.08 other then some free planes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TX-Bomblast
12-25-2006, 10:05 PM
The new recoil seems correct. When I was in my 20's I worked with a older gentleman who was a P-47 pilot in WW2. Of the many questions I asked about the 50's....hitting power, distance prefered when shooting/aiming at targets, and so on. He would always say when he pulled the trigger, he could alomost feel the plane slow down a bit.
He mostly did ground attack missions, and loved to drop his bombs on moving trains as they would go into tunnels. His name is Ted Lundeen, this hero of mine passed away a long time ago, but his stories and newspaper clippings of his exploits will live on forever.

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GH_Klingstroem
12-26-2006, 07:46 AM
I guess it real then!!
Love the new patch!!

Antoninus
12-27-2006, 03:41 AM
I just noticed the fuel gauge bug, which was there since PF, in the F4U-1D/Corsair Mk IV is also fixed! It now finally correctly indicates the fuel in the main tank and is not always 70% empty even when selecting a full fuel load.

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VFA-195 Snacky
12-27-2006, 04:44 AM
I agree. I'm glad they finished this sim strong. I've complained a lot about some of these planes and I think they finally got it as close as possible. I will leave to eat my crow now. lol


Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I love the new recoil. To me its much more accurate and realistic. This is a great patch/addon. Oleg and Luthier have done an outstanding job imo. I just hope not too much changes in 4.08 other then some free planes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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R_Target
12-27-2006, 06:44 AM
New recoil effect is nice.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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