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Yellonet
06-01-2007, 04:40 AM
Will it be possible to release a PTO expansion for BoB when the time comes? We all know about the "problems" with the inclusion of certain american aircraft.
Will 1C even be allowed to make new versions of the planes currently in IL-2 for the new game?

Pollack2006
06-01-2007, 04:49 AM
If BoB is a success i've no doubt Oleg et al will want to re-visit the PTO, ETO and everything else in between. As for the licensing issues....dunno.

WOLFMondo
06-01-2007, 04:49 AM
Oleg said the Storm of War series is the beginning of a new series of game with BoB being the first of them.

major_setback
06-01-2007, 04:50 AM
SoW will b a whole new series, just like The FB/PF series we now have. BoB is just a small part, the first part. Other areas/theatres-of-war will follow.

Yellonet
06-01-2007, 06:49 AM
Ehm...yessss... I realize that BoB is just the start of a series, buuuut, certain aircraft couldn't be incorporated in FB because of licensing issues. My question is if you don't think that that will cause a problem next time too.

csThor
06-01-2007, 06:59 AM
I guess we'll have to wait and see. None of us knows the exact deal Ubi had to sign with Grumman so we can't even speculate to what extent it really applies to SoW as well. That's a job for Ubi's lawyers.

Worst case is that it applies to SoW the same way it applied to Il-2 and PF - in that case you PTO fans have to hope for some decent sales figures and ROI rate so that MG/Ubi can pay up the fees. If not, however ... *shrugs*

Feathered_IV
06-01-2007, 07:00 AM
Hopefully next time they will have a little more experience when it comes to avoiding slime balls and con artists.

Now, if you would all just give me your credit card details, we can finally get things sorted in Nigeria. Promise. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Skycat_2
06-01-2007, 07:07 AM
Russian Rocket Group is fast approaching this question as they are working on "unnamed title" for the SoW engine. It isn't much of a secret anymore that their sim is the Korean War. To do it right, they'll want to include USN planes.

Here's an item from the Unnamed Title thread at SimHQ (http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2218196&page=1#Post2218196) addressing this very question:

VT-51_Razor: SaQSon, does that mean that the same restrictions the IL-2 series is under with regard to Northrup/Grumman, will apply to the SoW series? What I'm asking is, will we ever see anything by Grumman in any of the SoW add-ons due to the problems encountered with PF?

SaQSoN: The situation is not yet clear. So far, we still plan some aircraft under [NG] question for the release. However, we can't be sure, they'll be there in the end.

Irish_Rogues
06-01-2007, 07:07 AM
Wow Feathered, why don't you tell us how you really feel? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

DuxCorvan
06-01-2007, 07:31 AM
They didn't choose BoB by chance. It's the only "commercial" scenario which does not need US stuff at all.

I don't think we'll ever see 'cats' in SoW.

As for Vladimir, well, he also hinted once that there likely would be some planes and maps after 1946, and more or less mocked me for doubting so.

He may be in, but he doesn't seem to have the last word on such things -and that's what he says, after all.

@Skycat_2: Yes, to do it right they'll want to include USN planes. To do PF right they'd want to include flyable torpedo bombers, as well as basic well-known ships for all the factions.

But they didn't.

Chivas
06-01-2007, 03:36 PM
If sales numbers of the SOW series are good,I'm sure they intend to include all aircraft needed to make a viable Pacific theater in the future. They will jump thru all the hoops necessary that make economic sense. If it doesn't pan out it won't be for lack of trying.

Feathered_IV
06-02-2007, 02:54 AM
@ Irish Rougues, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Originally posted by Chivas:
If sales numbers of the SOW series are good,I'm sure they intend to include all aircraft needed to make a viable Pacific theater in the future. They will jump thru all the hoops necessary that make economic sense. If it doesn't pan out it won't be for lack of trying.

Hopefully they will do the PTO in stages next time. And not try to represent the entirety of the conflict in a single addon. It will be a failure if they do.

I reckon it'd best be tackled in two or three stages. The first one, SoW - Rising Sun could use aircraft like the BoB Blenheim, tropicalised Hurri, Spits and P-40's from the MTO addon. Plus the P-36, Hayabusas Nates and Zeroes etc. to make the addon represent the period from say Singapore to Darwin.

major_setback
06-02-2007, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
@ Irish Rougues, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chivas:
If sales numbers of the SOW series are good,I'm sure they intend to include all aircraft needed to make a viable Pacific theater in the future. They will jump thru all the hoops necessary that make economic sense. If it doesn't pan out it won't be for lack of trying.

Hopefully they will do the PTO in stages next time. And not try to represent the entirety of the conflict in a single addon. It will be a failure if they do.

I reckon it'd best be tackled in two or three stages. The first one, SoW - Rising Sun could use aircraft like the BoB Blenheim, tropicalised Hurri, Spits and P-40's from the MTO addon. Plus the P-36, Hayabusas Nates and Zeroes etc. to make the addon represent the period from say Singapore to Darwin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's agood idea, splitting it (PTO) up into different stages. I think it would be more commercially successful if they started in that arena with Pearl Harbour.

DmdSeeker
06-02-2007, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by major_setback:

That's agood idea, splitting it (PTO) up into different stages. I think it would be more commercially successful if they started in that arena with Pearl Harbour.

The PTO was in full swing long before Pearl Harbour.

So why start there?

FluffyDucks2
06-02-2007, 05:38 AM
Depends who is teaching the history http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Chivas
06-02-2007, 11:14 AM
It will be interesting to see how the theaters are ordered in the SOW series, as most of them overlapped. There is good evidence that the next add-on will be the Med, but its a **** shoot after that. It may be a good idea to do the Pacific theater in sections as they will be able to concentrate their efforts more effectively. Maybe even make more money with more add-ons. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif