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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:42 AM
It was 1910!!!!
http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/Coanda/CoandaAeroplane.htm





Message Edited on 10/19/0311:52PM by Jaws2002

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:42 AM
It was 1910!!!!
http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/Coanda/CoandaAeroplane.htm





Message Edited on 10/19/0311:52PM by Jaws2002

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:54 AM
Nice find. A piece of aeronautic history I was unaware of.

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T_O_A_D
10-20-2003, 06:25 AM
hobnail wrote:
- Nice find. A piece of aeronautic history I was
- unaware of.


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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 10:20 AM
The italians had a jet fighter in the 30s but wasnt fuel efficent and was underpowered but was armed.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 10:26 AM
Wow, I didn't know that the Jet has been around for that long....

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 10:27 AM
Pretty interesting. Thanks!

Zayets
10-20-2003, 12:00 PM
Yep, and what's amazing is that nowadays all jets uses what is called Coanda effect.
If you want to know more here's a few info :

http://www.deltawing.go.ro/history/coanda.htm

But also what ppl forget to remember is that another Romanian designed and flew the world's first aircraft to use flight control instruments.

http://www.deltawing.go.ro/history/vuia.htm
and
http://www.simplyromania.com/vuia.htm

have a good read and enjoy.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 01:26 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- The italians had a jet fighter in the 30s but wasnt
- fuel efficent and was underpowered but was armed.

Which one you mean?
If you mean the Campini-Caproni CC-2, it flied not in the 30s but on 1940, and it was not armed.
Otherwise, you're talking about some jet a/c that I don't know... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif



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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 01:30 PM
Fascinating find. Had no idea jets were born so early in our history.
Thanks for bringing this page to our attention!

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 04:19 PM
Jaws2002 wrote:
- It was 1910!!!!
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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 04:44 PM
Try the first link posted by Zayets


http://www.deltawing.go.ro/history/coanda.htm

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:14 PM
looks to me like jet was in front of pilot :O

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:12 PM
p1ngu666 wrote:
- looks to me like jet was in front of pilot :O
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Something like that.
It wasn't a "pure" jet, was more like a moto-jet(darn sounds stupid)- the compressor was moved by a fuel engine, but was practically the father of the jets.
There was a famous quote that someone (don't remember who, I think was Bleriot), told to Coanda, when he saw the plane: "Too bad boy that you are borned 40, if not 70 years too early."

I guess that one of the thing that make me happy of being a romanian..(arhhh i'm becoming sentimental)

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:38 PM
Nice try but its not a jet its actually a turbine compresser...better put...a fan in a tube attached to an internal combustion engine. Not to take away from Mr. Coanda's design or expertise but its a loonnnggg way from the turbojet engines developed by Frank Whittle and Willy Messerschmitt in the 1930s. What Mr. Coanda did was apply Bernoulli's Principals of Compression.

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:45 PM
The ancients greeks actually invented the principle of jet propulsion.They had a hollow metal sphere illed with water mounted on a spindle over a fire. The water boiled to make steam and ecaped through 3 vents, causing the sphere to spin

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:51 PM
Jimmy_Saville wrote:
- The ancients greeks actually invented the principle
- of jet propulsion.They had a hollow metal sphere
- illed with water mounted on a spindle over a fire.
- The water boiled to make steam and ecaped through 3
- vents, causing the sphere to spin
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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:55 PM
darkhorizon11 wrote:
- Nice try but its not a jet its actually a turbine
- compresser...better put...a fan in a tube attached
- to an internal combustion engine. Not to take away
- from Mr. Coanda's design or expertise but its a
- loonnnggg way from the turbojet engines developed by
- Frank Whittle and Willy Messerschmitt in the 1930s.
- What Mr. Coanda did was apply Bernoulli's Principals
- of Compression.
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Remember was 1910. Many people were still thinking the hot air balloon was the way to go. Just check the overall design of the plane and see how advanced it was.

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 07:23 PM
darkhorizon11 wrote:
- Nice try but its not a jet its actually a turbine
- compresser...better put...a fan in a tube attached
- to an internal combustion engine. Not to take away
- from Mr. Coanda's design or expertise but its a
- loonnnggg way from the turbojet engines developed by
- Frank Whittle and Willy Messerschmitt in the 1930s.
- What Mr. Coanda did was apply Bernoulli's Principals
- of Compression.

This is incorrect. It is a jet engine but not a turbojet, meaning that compressor is rotated by an internal combustion engine, not a turbine. What you see in front is not a ducted fan rotated by an internal combustion engine, but a compressor. Thrust was generated not by a propeller (ducted fan) but by expansion of gases resulted from fuel combustion in compressed air. Therefore it is correct to label this particular engine as a jet engine (not a turbojet).


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XyZspineZyX
10-25-2003, 10:30 PM
The first jet flew in August of 1939. Jets played at novel role towards the end of WW2 but they really didn't become a major player in modern combat till' the Korean War. An encounter with a jet for an allied pilot, even at the end of the war was rare indeed.