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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 04:12 PM
Hi Im a new IL-2 user and poster , When I fly the K4 and go to interior view my Revi gunsight is out of alignment with my line of sight, its not like this on the earlier F series. Can I change this?

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 04:12 PM
Hi Im a new IL-2 user and poster , When I fly the K4 and go to interior view my Revi gunsight is out of alignment with my line of sight, its not like this on the earlier F series. Can I change this?

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 04:13 PM
shift + F1

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 04:13 PM
Try shift+F1

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 04:31 PM
And for the reason why it's like this - the 109 site was off center of the plane - to the right - the 109 pilot would lean slighlty to the right to get a center view. This adds to the realism of the sim

as they said - Press Shift & F1 to center

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 04:35 PM
Just curious, but what was the thinking behind this "feature" of having an off center gunsight in real life?

Nate

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 05:03 PM
BTW mynameisroland...in the F series you can still see the sight even if you don't hit Shift + F1, (apparently you were flying it like that) but if you do, it centres it.



Message Edited on 09/11/0301:30PM by Chadburn

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:20 PM
Truth is gunsights in FB are extremely accurate, and weren't so in real life. Could have been so we'll assume for realism in FB that we have top notch mechs who spend countless hours sighting our guns in every chance they get lol.

Anyway the off center gun sight allowed for a better view when flying, taking off, and landing. It also sits lower on the dash in most german aircraft as the trajectory is different due to the incidence of the aircraft in flight.

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:38 PM
Hopperfly22 wrote:
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- Anyway the off center gun sight allowed for a better
- view when flying, taking off, and landing. It also
- sits lower on the dash in most german aircraft as
- the trajectory is different due to the incidence of
- the aircraft in flight.
-
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Nice try, made it up yourself?


The off-centre gunsight was there for a diffrent reason. Imagine yourself with a rifle and trying to aim on a distant target. Most probably, you would squeeze one eye and look with your other eye along the barrel of the gun and the gunsight, trying to aim.

it was also like this with WWII fighterpilots. they would squeeze one eye and look with the other trough their sights. So, by placing the sight a little off-centre, the pilots didn't have to move their head anymore to look straight through the gunsight.

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:56 PM
It's for take off and landings, as well you see in the other aircraft the back up site sitting off to the side that will be slid into position when the HUD gets wrecked, like the one on the P-47, it's not for squinting one eye, with movement of the aircraft and G-Forces involved there was rarely any time to "squint".

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 06:57 PM
Platypus, talk about making stuff up........lol. Anyone who shoots knows that you should always use both eyes while "aiming". Now this is not always easy when using a scope........but with a shotgun, iron sighted rifle or handguns both eyes should be open. Everyone has one eye,be it right or left that is the "master". Most people have a right master eye, but some have a master left eye even if they are right handed, what did they do with the sight located to the right of center, they probably kept both eyes open.

Imagine flying along at 300+ knots trying to get a moving object in your sights and you close one eye to do this, losing half of your periferral vision........I don't think so. Hopperfly's reasons sound more plausible to me.

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 07:01 PM
Because the ash tray was mounted in the center, they had to off set it a bit.

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 09:21 PM
They mounted it off center so the pilot could see the compass.

Yak~3 simmers know the disadvantages of a centered gunsight.

XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 09:28 PM
BfHeFwMe wrote:
- Because the ash tray was mounted in the center, they
- had to off set it a bit.
-
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Only there on Galland's a/c./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 09:54 PM
Hopperfly22 wrote:
- Truth is gunsights in FB are extremely accurate, and
- weren't so in real life. Could have been so we'll
- assume for realism in FB that we have top notch
- mechs who spend countless hours sighting our guns in
- every chance they get lol.
-

In real life you could see the tracers & walk them onto the target Unlike FB /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-11-2003, 11:23 PM
The gunsite wasn't mounted as far to the right as it is modelled in the game. It did get further and further to the right as the models went from E - K, however they only differed marginally. When speaking to a Luftwffe ace, i asked him what the deal with that was, and he said it was because MOST pilots were right-handed...having it mounted on the right seemed to help, especially when closing the LEFT eye. For take-offs and landing, the sight was turned sideways on its axis, out of view completely.

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