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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 06:50 PM
...IT IS GREAT!

I have used the single mission USSR/P47/P47/N1 as benchmark and test mission. Same setting as before and it looks and runs great. I love the new dust effect from planes taking off. And the new sounds is unbelivable (I don't know if they are new, but as a Audigy 2 owner who knows? The P47 sounds like a plane with a big engine now ;-)


I can't wait to find more new things!


Cougar

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 06:50 PM
...IT IS GREAT!

I have used the single mission USSR/P47/P47/N1 as benchmark and test mission. Same setting as before and it looks and runs great. I love the new dust effect from planes taking off. And the new sounds is unbelivable (I don't know if they are new, but as a Audigy 2 owner who knows? The P47 sounds like a plane with a big engine now ;-)


I can't wait to find more new things!


Cougar

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 06:58 PM
Can´t wait to test it but tonight it´s my turn to cook so it will take a while...

btw - are you Danish?

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:08 PM
to be honest im not that happy, my main bird, the 109, has better arnament, but its so slower and climbs not good at all, i kinda feel sad you know, planes outclimbing my 109
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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:09 PM
Skyhawk44 wrote:
- to be honest im not that happy, my main bird, the
- 109, has better arnament, but its so slower and
- climbs not good at all, i kinda feel sad you know,
- planes outclimbing my 109
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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:10 PM
Skyhawk44 wrote:
- to be honest im not that happy, my main bird, the
- 109, has better arnament, but its so slower and
- climbs not good at all, i kinda feel sad you know,
- planes outclimbing my 109

In Beta8, they were fine. Dunno about patch, hasn`t d/l them yet... Try climbing at 270 kph IAS (Red numbers in bottom), that`s the best climb speed for them. Use Radiator 4 or 2.

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:15 PM
I agree - the new sound is terrific - but I can't climb at all in a 109 E7/B....how am I supposed to BnZ now?!

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:17 PM
This all sounds quite abstract about the 109 - how about posting some numbers?

Try different climb rates for different aircraft

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:34 PM
Yes M0ns I Danish, and you?


The next thing to test for me is the internal voice comm, if they fixed the ability too talk in coop on the brifeing screen.

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:35 PM
I'm not a complete expert on aircraft performance here - I just know that my trusty old E7/B doesn't climb as fast as it used to. But then it could be that I have to be more conscientious of my radiator flap settings (as mentioned above) - I usually leave it Open during dogfights - but I think I might have to adjust according to the situation - but this isn't a problem - in fact, its one of the coolest parts about this game - theres always something new to learn!)

If anyone can post some good rules to follow with radiator settings pertaining to 109s in climbs and descents during DFs I'd appreciate it!

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:44 PM
Anyone else thinking that the Fw's ("DON'T SHOOT ME") turn a little too well? It feels arcadish, or perhaps one can get used to it. Afterall, We've been plagued by the heavy elevator long enough.

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 07:56 PM
The pre~patch 109-Email and I~16 were both outclimbing the K4. I am glad to see Email whining starting. That makes me Happy. Now, for the I~16 and Hurricane whining.

Still, if you wanna see real whining, one will be forced to wait till for the releace of the P~51. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 08:03 PM
LOL! - The first time anyone called me a whiner! I feel like I've been welcomed into the community! I don't care really how it flies - if its more realistic (and I'm one of those that gives Oleg the benefit of the doubt) then I'm all for it.

I'm actually someone who REALLY likes the changes in the patch - my sound has improved 200%.

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 08:19 PM
JRH147 wrote:
- I'm not a complete expert on aircraft performance
- here - I just know that my trusty old E7/B doesn't
- climb as fast as it used to. But then it could be
- that I have to be more conscientious of my radiator
- flap settings (as mentioned above) - I usually leave
- it Open during dogfights - but I think I might have
- to adjust according to the situation - but this
- isn't a problem - in fact, its one of the coolest
- parts about this game - theres always something new
- to learn!)
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- If anyone can post some good rules to follow with
- radiator settings pertaining to 109s in climbs and
- descents during DFs I'd appreciate it!
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Oh. Now I understand, so THIS is the source of the rumors "109s don`t climb well anymore". Well the 109E had a climb rate of 15-16m/sec at low altitudes, that should mean you should be able to climb 1000m in around 60 secs, if you climb at ~270kph IAS, and radiators half open (setting 4), 100% fuel.

Keep in mind that in V1.1 Emils they climbed some 30-40% better than in reality. I think it`s only that they were corrected.

As for radiator settings for 109s, I usually do the following:

Automatic when cruising or waiting for targets to appear.
Rad4 for sustained climb, except for zoom climbs in which I
Close them fully until slowed down to sustained climb speed.

Rad2 if in level run, or dives.

Rad Auto, or 2 or 4 in manouvering fights. Auto seems to be a good idea, since it makes my job easier. 2 and 4 depeneding on need for speed or engine temperature.

Fully open after dogfights, too cool engine quickly down, then Automatic, before next fight begins. It keeps coolant at 80deg.

Remember that leavign them Open slows you down greatly during high speed (up to 80kph minus!!!), but in slower fights, the penelty is much less.

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XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 09:08 PM
Im 100% with you JRH147. I haven't flown any planes for real and therefore trusts Oleg and his crew 100%.

But one thing I know something about is what I want from a flightsim and THAT does IL-2FB deliver 10000%. Different aircraft, great sound, FM that seems belivable, great graphics and the wonderfull damagemodel. I'm in heaven.

Did I mention the sound ;-)

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 09:39 PM
Yea, I think IL2 is great. Never flew a plane, FM seem good and believable. Some ppl whine because its not 100% of what they read in some report....pff....sit down and enjoy.

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 10:26 AM
Start playing and stop whinniiing. Its souch a great game!

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 10:48 AM
The thing that bugs me is that people get frustrated if someone else has a problem with the patched planes, they are NOT whiners!!!!!
The thing that bugs me is that the 109 has been so downgraded that it doesnt climb like it did, and im not talking about the K4 only! BnZ is made so difficult that the elevator controls feel like stone when recovering from a bnZ climn (this was not SO bad in 1.0)
The only plane that is super now is FW, a flying tank with armor like a T34 and superb arnament, its also one of the fastest planes now /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 10:58 AM
Skyhawk44 wrote:
- The thing that bugs me is that people get frustrated
- if someone else has a problem with the patched
- planes, they are NOT whiners!!!!!
- The thing that bugs me is that the 109 has been so
- downgraded that it doesnt climb like it did, and im
- not talking about the K4 only! BnZ is made so
- difficult that the elevator controls feel like
- stone when recovering from a bnZ climn (this was not
- SO bad in 1.0)
- The only plane that is super now is FW, a flying
- tank with armor like a T34 and superb arnament, its
- also one of the fastest planes now /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
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I agree totaly, the 190 needed improving but why downgrade k4 in the process http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:03 AM
Skyhawk44 wrote:
- The thing that bugs me is that people get frustrated
- if someone else has a problem with the patched
- planes, they are NOT whiners!!!!!
- The thing that bugs me is that the 109 has been so
- downgraded that it doesnt climb like it did, and im
- not talking about the K4 only! BnZ is made so
- difficult that the elevator controls feel like
- stone when recovering from a bnZ climn (this was not
- SO bad in 1.0)
- The only plane that is super now is FW, a flying
- tank with armor like a T34 and superb arnament, its
- also one of the fastest planes now /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Any chance we'll get to see some stats? Or maybe a track or a pic (or two)?
Could you please ellaborate your statements?

U say the only plane that's super is the FW. U mean out of ALL planes? Or just the LW?
Have you managed to test ALL planes thoroughly in one day?

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:55 AM
The Fw is not super, trust me. Sure it rolls a little too well and the elevators are very effective, but what good does it do you when all your speed is lost in a matter of seconds as soon as you start turning? You'll black out in no time anyways. She has to be flown in the same way as before, with gentle control inputs, just in order to remain fast, and that is you life line. Staying fast!

Anyways the historical evasive manouvers works now, thanks to the high rollrate and impressive instantaneous turnrate! Sustained turnrate doesn't excist! Right now servers are crawling with 190's but give it time and many will notice it's not what it seems to be!

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 11:59 AM
Cougar_DK wrote:
- Yes M0ns I Danish, and you?
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Yup! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:04 PM
btw - it seems that the FW190 A series all perform a whole lot better now - I haven´t made test with data & all - it just feels better. Only problem is the sound - it´s really messed up /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif & it´s gotta be a code-thing because I´ve tried all settings now & it won´t work right...

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:20 PM
Talking about the good Elevator control of 190, i cant use the tiny elevators and i stall , i dont elevators of 190 is good at all...

XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:26 PM
Me 262 performance at high altitude is totally OFF

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XyZspineZyX
08-13-2003, 12:43 PM
Skyhawk44 wrote:
- Talking about the good Elevator control of 190, i
- cant use the tiny elevators and i stall , i dont
- elevators of 190 is good at all...
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My joystick is a cordless Freedom 2.4. I adjusted the pitch settings like this.

10,17,25,33,42,50,58,65,75,82

Pitch control is now much smoother and she's not as snappy as she is with the default settings.
It is still possible to highspeed stall but only if you use to swift inputs.



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