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07-25-2006, 03:04 PM
Bf 109T "Tr√¬§gerflugzeug" (Carrier Aircraft)
Prior to the war the German Navy had become fascinated with the idea of the aircraft carrier. Borrowing ideas from the British and Japanese (mainly the Akagi), they started the construction of the Graf Zeppelin (not to be confused with the airship Graf Zeppelin) as part of Plan Z in 1936. The air group for the carrier was settled on Messerschmitt Bf 109T fighters and Ju 87C dive bombers. The ten Bf 109T-0 were originally Bf 109E-3, which were modified by adding a tail-hook, catapult fittings, structural strengthening and increased wingspan (to 11.08 m). Also the landing gear track was a little wider. Thus prepared, the Bf 109T probably would have been proven much better for carrier operations than the British Supermarine Seafire, a hardly modified landplane that suffered from a bad accident rate flying from carriers.

Following the flight tests, especially the catapult tests, a series of 70 T-1 with DB601N engine was to be produced at Fieseler in Kassel, but after seven T-1 were built, the carrier project was canceled. The remaining 63 of 70 T-1 were built as T-2 without carrier equipment and all T-1 "upgraded" to T-2 standard. These planes were assigned to JG5 "Eismeergeschwader", deployed in Norway. The armament of the Bf 109T consisted of two MG 17 above the engine and one MG FF/M cannon in each wing.

Wing span of 11,08 m
Wing area 17,50 m‚¬≤

What do you think? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

07-25-2006, 03:48 PM
Cool, it would have made mincemeat of the Swordfish and Fulmars... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

07-25-2006, 04:25 PM
I always liked the H myself

* Bf-109H-0: High-altitude fighter variant, derived from "Frederick" but with extended wings, and DB-601E engine with GM-1 nitrous oxide boost.

* Bf-109H-1: Field evaluation version of Bf-109H-0.

07-25-2006, 04:30 PM
yeah the H is neat, but we are talking of a
Wing span of 11,08m/Wing area 17,50 m‚¬≤ Bf109E
that operated in Norway for a long time

07-25-2006, 05:17 PM
With the extended wingspan would have lost half it's poor roll rate at higher speeds. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

07-25-2006, 06:48 PM
Any mentioning of an enlarged fuel tank for sea duties? BF-109's had horrible range... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

07-25-2006, 07:11 PM


07-25-2006, 07:26 PM
Second carrier was to be the Graf Herman, skippered by Herman Graf. Together they could have spelled doom for the Yamato. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

07-26-2006, 07:13 PM

07-26-2006, 10:48 PM
Little known fact is that Bf109-T2 was the first plane to shoot down a B-17 over Europe.

07-27-2006, 04:06 AM
tell us more

07-27-2006, 04:13 AM
most propably a RAF Fortress Mk.I raid against Oslo

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b17_6.html (http://home.att.net/%7Ejbaugher2/b17_6.html)

07-27-2006, 05:46 AM
Concentrate on the larger wings. Forget about the extra weight.

07-27-2006, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
Concentrate on the larger wings. Forget about the extra weight.

consentrate on th 109T2 not 109T1