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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 08:41 AM
Name the undermodelled crafts in here and explain why you think the specific aircraft is undermodelled. Facts are appreciated.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 08:41 AM
Name the undermodelled crafts in here and explain why you think the specific aircraft is undermodelled. Facts are appreciated.

--BE REASONABLE PLEASE--

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 10:35 AM
I smell hot gas and fire incoming into this thread.

I bet all this has been written many times but guess we can put em into one more thread /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

1) Auto radiator on Bf109 series works little too well, in fact it keeps the radiator open allmost all the time degrading performance.

2) Prop pitch of Bf109 needs tweaking, Bf109 series cannot get near the promised speeds with auto prop pitch and auto radiator on.

3) Lagg3 is undermodelled, it lacks realistic damage model.

Pls do consider before you flame, I only fly LW in VEF so these are the things I have noticed. And VEF is in year 41 so I wont go into FW190 planes since havent flyed em with 1.11.

Iam sure VVS side has some probs too, but I leave it to more wiser people who fly VVS.

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 11:37 AM
P40s cannot achieve speeds listed in object viewer, too slow at all altitudes.

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 12:19 PM
I 16 cannot reach designed max Speed at low level

LaGG3 is much tougher than it seemed in reality

FW 190 can stand up to 5 Hits by 37mm of P39

IL2 is weak against all weapons carried by fighters

IL2 gunners did not shot at enemy, when he is on tail of the plane



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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 01:13 PM
Mig damage model...

Maybe I am wrong but AFAIK these planes did not have armoured tanks and were pretty fragile overall...

As it is now Mig is one of the hardest plane to bring down...

So maybe a little fix needed here?

Lagg3 and Fw190 damage models are wrong too, both planes are quite a flying tanks...but still...Fw190 has a radial engine and should be a bit more rugged while seeing the inline Lagg engine receive bursts of any caliber without any rusult looks a bit funny...

Also Fw190 has this nice bug that after being hit by one rifle shot its performance goes down the dump and it´s virtually out of action

Also a have noticed that a shower of shells hitting rudder and elevators does no damage either (tested offline therefore no chance for any unregistered hits) I have seen this happen mostly on Lagg, La and Mig series but it may be common for all the planes

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 02:28 PM
Well the FW190 is supposed to be a tougher plane and I think its modeled mostly correct...but its got areas of strangeness like the rudder soaking up lots of damage.

Someone mentioned before that the Lagg was a tougher plane. I don't see it used much online so I don't have the expeience chewing it up like I do other planes but whenever I've flown it I've been shot down like all the rest.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:46 PM
DrWolle wrote:
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- I 16 cannot reach designed max Speed at low level
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What? I can easily archieve 410 kmh on sealevel, as the object viewer states.. at the same time Brewster top speed is 30 kmh too low, only doing some 400-410, when it should do atleast 430..

Lagg3 DM and FM to be fixxed.. currently it does not overheat, and holes in wings/fuselage/engine does not affect it's perfomance at all.. and it turns like a Yak. No energy bleed.


-CSL_Kocour :
- Also Fw190 has this nice bug that after being hit by one rifle shot its performance goes down the dump and it´s virtually out of action


FW-190 tail section invulnerable to damage. Agree.. and agree, one rifle bullet hit to wings (from shkas or UBS) is enough to put FW190 out of action basicly.. it looses incredible amount of perfomance.. so FW-190 to be able to fight effectivily you must not absorb damage ( at all), that does not seem as the würger beeing so rugger as she really was..

Auto RPM on german planes does not work as it should.. you won't get the max perfomance, as you should.. particularly this goes for Emils.. i dont seem to be able to get the same max speed with E4 or E7 as the object viewer states..

Lot of small things too should be fixxed.. like more weapon variants.. more bombs.. (they have been modelled, why not implemented in game?).. and VVS rockets to be less efficient.. and so the rockets have some sort of affect on the perfomance of the light figher carrying rockets, like Lagg3 or Yak..




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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:25 PM
Hi Vipez,

- What? I can easily archieve 410 kmh on sealevel, as
- the object viewer states.. at the same time Brewster
- top speed is 30 kmh too low, only doing some
- 400-410, when it should do atleast 430..

You've been shown tracks of it hitting 430kmh sustained 10m off the deck.

Short memory?

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10-21-2003, 05:32 PM
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