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raaaid
09-19-2005, 10:24 AM
i always shoot my k4 gunpods half second more than necessary to make planes explode

ive always thought myself to be a good person but this laughing i get when i make the foe explode makes me think this game brings up the dark side of some of us

raaaid
09-19-2005, 10:24 AM
i always shoot my k4 gunpods half second more than necessary to make planes explode

ive always thought myself to be a good person but this laughing i get when i make the foe explode makes me think this game brings up the dark side of some of us

Hoarmurath
09-19-2005, 10:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">am i a mean person for liking making foes explode into pieces? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


yes

Platypus_1.JaVA
09-19-2005, 10:34 AM
.Only if Osama bin laden (Or George B. it depends on your nationality) is your target. Otherwise, YES you are a mean person http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

polak5
09-19-2005, 10:51 AM
I think ive overkilled a pilot once or twice before but only when i lost my kool. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

horseback
09-19-2005, 11:16 AM
Only if you're doing it from a safe distance. Otherwise, it's just a subconscious expression of your death wish.

cheers

horseback

tigertalon
09-19-2005, 11:25 AM
Altough we fly in virtual sky, I always try to give my victim a chance to bail.

Saunders1953
09-19-2005, 11:57 AM
If that laughing is of the maniacal, cackling sort, then I'd seek professional help, Raaid. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

zaelu
09-19-2005, 11:58 AM
If you imagine in that plane a person that is begging for mercy wile you laugh... Yes.

Kernow
09-19-2005, 12:31 PM
The most annoying thing is to be in an obviously crippled or 'dead' aircraft - just trying to bail or get height to bail - and yet still to be getting pinged by some irritating little tosser.



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

edit: and another thing - it's even worse when that irritating little tosser is a 'kill stealer' and not the one who did the damage.

Kuna15
09-19-2005, 12:35 PM
I never really thought about this issue. I try to hit bandit untill he is mortally damaged. If that means pilot kill in the process, that's too bad. For him.

Anyway it is a game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ankanor
09-19-2005, 01:58 PM
I don't do it on purpose, but most of the time ovekills happen(I'm flying FW190) For me the best "kill" is to hit a wingtank and set it on fire. There is time to bailout and I know he's not going anywhere.

raaaid
09-19-2005, 02:09 PM
well this is a war game and if you like it you like at least some part of war besides i cant understand how people like bombing, is beyond me

but on the other hand i take it just as a game i know i just will get the other guy pissed off while i have fun,sometimes the other way around, just like any game

besides with so many kill stealers i aprecciate my foe exploding

BaldieJr
09-19-2005, 02:14 PM
Hey.

Check this out.

Its a video game.

Its not real.

But its dishonorable to shoot people in chutes online. Just ask.

raaaid
09-19-2005, 02:15 PM
but have you read enders game?

then i would be a freaking monster

Tully1
09-20-2005, 01:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">am i a mean person for liking making foes explode into pieces? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No, but you're a strange one for asking this question about a combat simulation.
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SeaFireLIV
09-20-2005, 06:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
am i a mean person for liking making foes explode into pieces? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes. I might say, "wow" or "He went up there!" , But never find the need to laugh.

Also, you waste ammo that maybe needed for able enemies.

Depends though, is this offline, online - with realistic or non-real settings. With realistic settings you don`t get that many explosions anyway.

ImpStarDuece
09-20-2005, 06:35 AM
Raaid, you are a mean person for ignoring the basics of punctuation, grammar and capitalisation.

Now, off to the Grammar Nazi thread with you.

stef51
09-20-2005, 09:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
...this laughing i get when i make the foe explode makes me think this game brings up the dark side of some of us </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not something I would worry about. What I do worry is if you continue firing at all the pieces. At that point, I consider that the person has a mad state of mind....of just got a very bad day at work. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Stephen

neural_dream
09-20-2005, 10:01 AM
No, that doesn't prove you are a mean person.

I'd never do it though. But why do YOU do it? Dream leans back, legs crossed, thoughtful face http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif, plays with his mont-blanc and asks again.
Why do you think this cruel act in a computer game brings you esoteric happiness? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

JuHa-
09-20-2005, 10:26 AM
So you don't like killstealers?

Willey
09-20-2005, 12:33 PM
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Willey
09-20-2005, 12:33 PM
Cherry http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
09-22-2005, 05:01 PM
Not mean, it's fun to fly through the cloud of your opponent's exploded pieces, although it can be very annoying to have a Zero blow up right in your face and knock out your engine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Triggaaar
09-22-2005, 05:14 PM
If I win, 1 on 1, I cicle to shoot the parachutist. It's war.

Triggaaar
09-22-2005, 05:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
But its dishonorable to shoot people in chutes online. Just ask. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Why? If I had flown in a real war, I'd want to be shooting them (not for fun, but because they are the enemy, will fly again).

Kernow
09-23-2005, 03:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Triggaaar:
If I win, 1 on 1, I cicle to shoot the parachutist. It's war. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it's a game. One you'd like to think is played for enjoyment by (reasonably) like-minded individuals who don't need to ****-off their fellow simmers in order to have fun.

Not only is it a warcrime to shoot 'distressed airmen' but war is bad enough without needing to behave like a complete b*****d.

GazeH0und
09-23-2005, 05:42 AM
What does it matter online when someone shoots a chutist? Does it take longer to rejoin game? Do you lose score?

neural_dream
09-23-2005, 06:10 AM
You get a KIA instead of a Bailed Out. If you do not play very seriously then there's no difference at all. But it's really bad for those who care about their online stats (i think the majority) and those who play with special rules for themselves (when killed stop for the day and stuff like that). Most online players fire until the enemy plane is obviously disabled and don't try to kill helpless pilots. However the existence of online gamers who kill chutes or try to blow them up, adds to the immersion of the game. Mature gamers shouldn't be angry with them. After all, it's their fault that they got killed and not the chute killer's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

zaelu
09-24-2005, 04:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Triggaaar:
If I had flown in a real war, I'd want to be shooting them (not for fun, but because they are the enemy, will fly again). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is not your enemy gangsta boy... is just a fellow human being that just hapens to be in a diferent country with leaders narrow minded enough to push their citizens to do their worst in a "war". Being one of their marionettes is a ugly thing, thinking in peace time like one is worst.

Maybe you will not qualify for aircombat in a real war... maybe you will be a foot soldier. What then? What humiliations your foe will have to endure just to let him go from this world?

Having fun with the enemy that can't fight back anymore... pffft, whats the name for that?

SeaFireLIV
09-24-2005, 05:33 AM
Honour is honour.

If you consider yourself honourable, then you won`t shoot a defenceless person hanging in his chute in a game, just as you wouldn`t in reality...

I`m not telling you to be honourable, just telling you what honour means.

arcadeace
09-24-2005, 05:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kernow:
No, it's a game. One you'd like to think is played for enjoyment by (reasonably) like-minded individuals who don't need to ****-off their fellow simmers in order to have fun.

Not only is it a warcrime to shoot 'distressed airmen' but war is bad enough without needing to behave like a complete b*****d. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It doesn't seem to me you really see it as a game. I haven't flown online but I wouldn't shoot them, just because I wouldn't want to rub it in. But come on, it isn't war.

Kernow
09-24-2005, 10:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Arcadeace:
...But come on, it isn't war. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was my point.

Wilburnator
09-24-2005, 01:36 PM
I'll admit to a little satisfaction if I can dive in at 700 kph and blow someone up with a 1 second burst at close range, but only because I usually miss in that circumstance. I generally stop firing if I blow off a wing or tail, stop his engine, start him on fire, or if I see the canopy pop off.

I understand it's only a game and a virtual "death" doesn't actually mean anything, but I'm there to have fun with like-minded people, not be a jerk.

Badsight.
09-24-2005, 03:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But its dishonorable to shoot people in chutes online. Just ask. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>only to the anal-retentive types

its they could let go of the pucker for 2 seconds they would realise how much fun it is

bagging either the pilot or chute alone is especially fun , & if you do the same to me ill write "S!" & "Good Shot!" back : )

zaelu
09-24-2005, 04:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight.:
only to the anal-retentive types

its they could let go of the pucker for 2 seconds they would realise how much fun it is

bagging either the pilot or chute alone is especially fun , & if you do the same to me ill write "S!" & "Good Shot!" back : ) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If a game with the goal of raping women will be made someday you will say that it could be fun?

What if it will be online and you are "The She"? You will say salute?

Maybe for you is fun to shute kills, that don't make this fun universaly... but genelaly is a bad thing in real world like raping is...

and... not everyone needs lax pills.

Max.Power
09-24-2005, 04:25 PM
I like this Zaelu guy.. not because I share his sentiment but because I like the way he illustrates his point.

I don't shoot parachutes for the same reason I don't kill steal. I think that, under some circumstances that I don't fully understand, if you bail out and survive you get more points and it doesn't count as a kia on your stats. I like my stats, and so I try not to do anything I would not like to have done to me. Honour and all that asside, I just don't shoot parachutes because I'm not out there to piss people off.

It kind of annoys me when that aircraft I'm shooting at explodes.. because I shoot usually at a VERY high speed difference and from close range... so by the time the server's done transfering information to all whom it concerns, I'm blowing by the target which explodes and usually does some damage. I'd rather just make the aircraft unflyable. This is especially annoying when it takes off a wing or something, because there's no getting out for me. I just watch the ground come up to greet me with the canopy off and the wind in my hair.

Badsight.
09-24-2005, 05:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zaelu:
that don't make this fun universaly... but genelaly is a bad thing in real world like raping is.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>wtg , thats a load of BS & you know it

your analogy of sexual violence is related to shooting a virtual man in what way ? this is a game , it isnt real life

but shooting pilots in their chute is something they did IN REAL LIFE

please , the guy is little & it takes skill to hit him , if you cant handel seeing that virtual guy hit without getting upset , you must have issues with getting shot in the first place , well this is a combat game - getting shot is the normall thing that happens

why is it ok to blow you up with cannon but not ok to shoot the pilot ? its the same thing except harder to do!

the ONLY reason not to do it is because some people are so UPTIGHT that they get mad over it . some of these people dont like getting shoy down in the first place , well they got to get over it or play FS 2004

zaelu
09-24-2005, 06:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I play shooters too. And I don't shoot flowers there.
Is not that you kill a man, you kill a helpless adversary. Knowing this makes me stop my guns. I did kill humans bailing out... one just the other day, but I feel it like an accident, he bailed just in front of my buffalo from a rufe. I did kill AI bailing out from planes just to target practice... no problem. You say a principle is a BS, I can say the fact that you hide behind a game to satisfy an obscure need to kill or revenge is BS too.

Maybe I seem like overreacting but I see everytime somebody say that he kills chutes he has a statisfaction on saying it. "Hey, I'm a cold bloded killa!" This for me is repulsive.

And I know also that it is a game... I wouldn't play GTA series if I didn't make this diference.

SnapdLikeAMutha
09-25-2005, 08:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Triggaaar:
If I win, 1 on 1, I cicle to shoot the parachutist. It's war. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really smart. If you start doing that, guaranteed people will cotton on and start doing that to you. Plus, IRL if you shoot down a parachutist over your own territory that denies your intelligence service a POW for interrogation. Does the game award bonus points for 'captured' enemy aircrews? If not perhaps it should...

BaldieJr
09-25-2005, 08:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Is not that you kill a man, you kill a helpless adversary. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. You kill nothing. You stop a computer animation.

Those of us with both feet on planet earth agree: chute shooting in a video game causes zero guilt and is great fun.

I'm with badsight. Shoot my chute. I think its funny.

zaelu
09-25-2005, 11:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
No. You kill nothing. You stop a computer animation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you play online to stop animations? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr: Shoot my chute. I think its funny. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll pass over... is funnier.

Anyway, I think we are talking about some nuances here that maybe we cannot define well enough, and we are wasting time. So... kill what you like as long is just a game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif