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Esel1964
05-22-2007, 03:01 AM
The Japanese mini sub that sunk the HMAS Kuttabul (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/05/22/japan.submarine.reut/index.html?section=cnn_latest) has been found in Sydney Harbor.

It was the last of three mini-subs (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070521/kyodo/d8p8kvi00.html)involved in the attack on Sydney to be found.

It will allegedly be left as a protected tomb to the two Japanese sailor's remains onboard.

Siwarrior
05-22-2007, 03:06 AM
yeh...was found in feburary i think
anyway quite interesting, if you go near the site sonar ( ?) bouys pick you up and then yo in gaol :P

Esel1964
05-22-2007, 03:27 AM
OH man,sorry to bring up 'old/news'.I just saw a piece about it,on tonight's "news"-they had the U/W footage,divers and all-as if it just happened.
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major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:27 AM
Didn't know this.
I'm only just realising whow much war acivity there was around mainland Australia. It's probably just me being ignorant, but I get the feeling that we don't hear too much about what went on there up here in Europe.

Siwarrior
05-22-2007, 05:01 AM
sorry man didnt mean to burst your bubble

anyway couple of months back there was a report on the finding of it, apparently the guys who found it had been looking for it for a long time ( 10yrs+ ?) and now, (yes) it is a war site and as you might have seen some navy divers took some soil from near the wreck for the relatives of the japanese sub pilots
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Beaufort-RAF
05-22-2007, 06:42 AM
This is the depot ship HMAS Kuttabul that was sunk with 21 deaths.


http://static.flickr.com/52/139513041_6bb7f941bf.jpg

WTE_Ibis
05-22-2007, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by major_setback:
Didn't know this.
I'm only just realising whow much war acivity there was around mainland Australia. It's probably just me being ignorant, but I get the feeling that we don't hear too much about what went on there up here in Europe.

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Darwin, which is the largest city in Australias north had more bombs dropped on it than Pearl Harbour.
Of course the damage to the war effort was much less.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//Darwin.doc

http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/darwinbombing/ (http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/darwinbombing/%5B/URL%5D)[/url]

http://www.answers.com/topic/bombing-of-darwin

[URL=http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//Darwin.doc].

[URL=http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/darwinbombing/]

major_setback
05-22-2007, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
Didn't know this.
I'm only just realising whow much war acivity there was around mainland Australia. It's probably just me being ignorant, but I get the feeling that we don't hear too much about what went on there up here in Europe.

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Darwin, which is the largest city in Australias north had more bombs dropped on it than Pearl Harbour.
Of course the damage to the war effort was much less.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//Darwin.doc

http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov.au/articles/darwinbombing/

http://www.answers.com/topic/bombing-of-darwin

[URL=http://premium1.uploadit.org/Ibissix//Darwin.doc]
. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am at this moment reading Bill Bryson's travel book Down Under . I was surprised to hear Bryson tell of American airmen/troops stationed in the Darwin area during the war. I hadn't realised before that that there was so much activity there.

Ernst_Rohr
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
The US Navy's Asiatic Fleet squadrons which used to be posted in Manilla were all moved to Australia following the Japanese capture of the Phillipines.

Australia became the one of the two major repair/resupply/depot site for the Pacific War, the other one being Pearl Harbor. Australia had the advantage of being a lot closer and a lot bigger.

There was a pretty signifigant American contingent there all the way through the war, up until the surrender of Japan.

Australia and the Aussies had a much larger role in the war then the are often given credit for, which just isnt right. Per capitia, they had one of the largest commitments to WW2.

Gibbage1
05-22-2007, 02:05 PM
Why do I get the feeling that these mini-subs were more dangerous for there own crew, then its targets? From the few attacks I know of (Pearl, and this), there success reccord is rather poor considering the losses (100% loss).

Dagnabit
05-23-2007, 12:20 AM
My Father Inlaw, was in the Red Arrow Division, and they were in Australia for a bit. And then they went North into New Guinea. I heard they surprised the Japenese when they took apart a 105 Howitzer and humped it over some mountains to strike the IJA from a totally inexpected direction.
My father Inlaw said that the Aussies, treated the GIs like Royalty. Taking them into their homes where they insisted that they sleep in their own beds, and they would "make do", and also feed them good steak while they ate mutton themselves. He said you would never meet nicer people than the Aussies.
Dag

Feathered_IV
05-23-2007, 03:49 AM
Yes indeed. Our foreign visitors must never suspect a thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif.

WTE_Moleboy
05-23-2007, 06:08 AM
This site contains good records of Japanese raids on mainland Australia during WWII and some other interesting information. http://ozatwar.com/

Beaufort-RAF
05-23-2007, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
Why do I get the feeling that these mini-subs were more dangerous for there own crew, then its targets? From the few attacks I know of (Pearl, and this), there success reccord is rather poor considering the losses (100% loss).

A couple attacked Diego Suarez in mid '42 and damaged HMS Ramillies and sank a tanker.

However one disappeared and the sub that successfully attacked was beached and the crew hunted down and killed.

Esel1964
05-24-2007, 12:55 AM
The National Museum of the Pacific War (http://www.nimitz-museum.org/) in Fredericksburg,TX has Japanese mini-sub Ha-19 (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japsh-h/ha19.htm) (one of the five Pearl Harbor mini's) on display in a life-size diarama,that makes it seem as though you're on the deck of I-24,while the mini's prepping for launch.You can touch it,and more.

If you're ever in the Austin/San Antonio area of TX,this place is well worth a full-day side trip;esp. if you like German food and/or beer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

djetz
05-24-2007, 08:01 AM
The first mini-sub that was recovered from Sydney Harbour is displayed at the National War Museum in Canberra.

To any Australians (or tourists) that haven't been there and have an interest in the World Wars: go. It's worth a trip to Canberra by itself. It's an amazing and deeply moving place.

They also have a Lancaster, G-George. One of the very few that you can see in person. Let me tell you: those things are BIG.

http://www.awm.gov.au/events/online.htm

Have a look at the online exhibitions - there are many great pictures of rarely seen aspects of both world wars, and there is right now an online exhibition about the Japanese attacks on Australia in 1941-43.

Daiichidoku
05-24-2007, 08:20 AM
Australia was important enough of a theatre to the Japanese....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/propaganda.jpg

Daiichidoku
05-24-2007, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by djetz:
They also have a Lancaster, G-George. One of the very few that you can see in person. Let me tell you: those things are BIG.


our Lanc in Kanada flies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

and we now have a fully restored (but static) war pedigree'd Halifax

djetz
05-24-2007, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Daiichidoku:

our Lanc in Kanada flies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

and we now have a fully restored (but static) war pedigree'd Halifax

Cool! You won't hear any argument from me about the contribution of Canada. I have nothing but respect for our Canadian comrades.

Daiichidoku
05-24-2007, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by djetz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:

our Lanc in Kanada flies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

and we now have a fully restored (but static) war pedigree'd Halifax

Cool! You won't hear any argument from me about the contribution of Canada. I have nothing but respect for our Canadian comrades. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

had to gfo and spoil it with reasonable, sane words

thsi IS UBI, dotn forget http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


anyhow, all of "commonwaelth" guy KNOW what a good job they did for "British Empire"

most Britons know it too (excpet he commanders at the time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

djetz
05-24-2007, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Daiichidoku:

had to gfo and spoil it with reasonable, sane words

thsi IS UBI, dotn forget http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Ha! We can always team up to bait Americans http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif