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TopGunBkk
01-18-2007, 02:12 PM
You?ve probably never heard of Iva Toguri and, if you have any association with the name ?Orphan Ann? at all, it?s probably to the Little Orphan Annie comic strip. On the other hand, you probably have heard of ?Tokyo Rose? and think you know all about her: the sultry, Japanese radio propagandist who taunted ?our boys? in the Pacific during World War II.

You?re in good company, too. When National Geographic interviewed Trinh (?Hanoi Hannah?) Thi Ngo on the 20th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War, it compared her anti-American broadcasts to the ?Tokyo Rose? program. The problem is that there never was anyone called ?Tokyo Rose? on Radio Tokyo or any of its subsidiaries. She, like ?Kilroy,? is a myth based on the frustrations and fears of young men waging war in difficult circumstances far away from their homes.

There were Japanese women broadcasters, over a dozen of them, and a few of them, most notably Foumy (?Madame Tojo?) Saisho and Myrtle (?Little Margie?) Lipton, even broadcast along the lines attributed to ?Tokyo Rose;? but no such person ever really existed.

This wouldn?t be much of a problem as problems go, were it not for the fact that a real person was unjustly arrested, tried, convicted, fined, and imprisoned for broadcasting as ?Tokyo Rose;? a real person who, by rights, should have been hailed as an American hero and, to the day she died, remained one of the most loyal Americans I have ever known.

This is her story..............

Got several broadcasts...for those of you who dont know who she was.There were 8-9 japanese women doing a music dj show from Tokoyo.

She say things like your banged up in the hospital, I bet your girl is with that handsome
man next to her on the train.

One tokoyo rose believe it or not was an american.....she went to japan to see her aunt.
She tried to leave just before dec 7, but the us govt said they had no proof she was american citizen.

She was forced to work and landed a job at radio tokoyo, forced to say these things.
After the war, she was deported to the usa for treason did 7 years.I dont know if she ever got a pardon.After all that she said she still loved america but was disappointed.

BSS_CUDA
01-18-2007, 02:22 PM
American hero? hardly,
Falsy imprisoned? probably

Iva Toguri was issued a pardon by Gerald Ford in 1977 and died September of last year<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Kettenhunde
01-18-2007, 02:30 PM
I dont know if she ever got a pardon.


In 1976 she recieved a full pardon from President Gerald Ford. There is even a proposal for a memorial to be built in Washington DC to Iva Toguri.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Kettenhunde
01-18-2007, 02:34 PM
American hero? hardly,


Actually she some of the resistance techniques she used are taught today. The exaggerated voice she used and most GI's came to laugh at is one of them.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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BSS_AIJO
01-18-2007, 02:53 PM
I used to shop at the Toguri store in Chicago, across the street from the Punk'n Doughnuts. 8^)
It turns out I had known her for 15 odd years without actually know who she really was. She was a good person and the pardon came very late.

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Nimits
01-18-2007, 03:51 PM
Part of the problem was that she intially did claim to be THE Tokyo Rose, obviously not understanding the hard feelings that had developed against "her."

Bearcat99
01-19-2007, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by TopGunBkk:
You?ve probably never heard of Iva Toguri and, if you have any association with the name ?Orphan Ann? at all, it?s probably to the Little Orphan Annie comic strip. On the other hand, you probably have heard of ?Tokyo Rose? and think you know all about her: the sultry, Japanese radio propagandist who taunted ?our boys? in the Pacific during World War II.


You are obviously new here. Don't sleep on this bunch. You wont find a more informed, knowledgeable, and expressive group of guys on any game forum anywhere. From history to physics... from aeronautical engineering to literature... theater to current events (We don't discuss them but we know about them... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) this community is by far one of the most erudite around. Oh.... and whats with all the question marks?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Blutarski2004
01-19-2007, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
You are obviously new here. Don't sleep on this bunch. You wont find a more informed, knowledgeable, and expressive group of guys on any game forum anywhere. From history to physics... from aeronautical engineering to literature... theater to current events (We don't discuss them but we know about them... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) this community is by far one of the most erudite around. Oh.... and whats with all the question marks?


..... Informed? Knowledgeable? Erudite? ... Maybe yes, maybe no.

Expressive? ... Absolutely.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bearcat99
01-19-2007, 07:15 PM
Yeah thats right... While it is true we have our share of the clueless.... there are tons of folks here who are indeed well informed etc etc etc.....

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LStarosta
01-19-2007, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Oh.... and whats with all the question marks?

Informed? Knowledgeable?

Then you wouldn't need me to tell you that he probably copy+pasted it and the characters it was typed in didn't transfer over to this forum. Compare the style of writing in the initial text and the bits towards the end of the post.

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Gibbage1
01-19-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
You wont find a more informed, knowledgeable, and expressive group of guys on any game forum anywhere. From history to physics... from aeronautical engineering to literature...

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01-20-2007, 12:07 AM
Or people who think that they think other people think they think they are informed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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johnbn
01-20-2007, 01:15 AM
Informed? Knowledgeable?

Then you wouldn't need me to tell you that he probably copy+pasted it and the characters it was typed in didn't transfer over to this forum. Compare the style of writing in the initial text and the bits towards the end of the post.

Absolutely spot on LStarosta, just have a look at his other post.

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01-20-2007, 01:35 AM
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Bearcat99
01-20-2007, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by johnbn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Informed? Knowledgeable?

Then you wouldn't need me to tell you that he probably copy+pasted it and the characters it was typed in didn't transfer over to this forum. Compare the style of writing in the initial text and the bits towards the end of the post.

Absolutely spot on LStarosta, just have a look at his other post. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasn't talking about the thread's author.... I was talking about some of the forum members here.... none who posted in this thread though.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

There are some folks here who do know what they are talking about more often than not.... and it can be about a wide range of topics... but I wasnt referring to the author. I was responding to his... "You probably never heard of......" Even if it was a cut & paste job.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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01-20-2007, 04:12 AM
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01-20-2007, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
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Neither was I. I was talking about you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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DuxCorvan
01-20-2007, 04:17 AM
You probably never heard of Adolf Hitler, but he was an ill-tempered guy with a tiny moustache and just one ball to play.

No, no, he's no the inventor of potato salad. But he improved it.

BSS_CUDA
01-20-2007, 08:02 AM
I've heard of him, short guy, funny mustache, bad comb-over, nasty temper, didn't he own a Bratwurst stand outside of Berlin in the 30's?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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you NEVER NEVER leave your wingman.

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Rudeljaeger
01-20-2007, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
I've heard of him, short guy, funny mustache, bad comb-over, nasty temper, didn't he own a Bratwurst stand outside of Berlin in the 30's?

That was Himmler. As DuxCorvan said Hitler was the potato-salad guy.

Rudeljaeger
01-20-2007, 08:13 AM
Seriously, all I read from the first post was "comic strip", so where is it?

DuxCorvan
01-20-2007, 08:28 AM
That's a typo. It's in fact a 'comic strip-tease'. You can't find it in the internet unless you are above 18, and you can't be, for you're trying to post 'seriously' in the GD forum.

They call it 'comic' for it includes Potato Salad Adolf and his final one-ball show.

But the chicks are HOT. Pity that you can only see the PG, TV broadcast, version.