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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 07:01 PM
Oleg:
I'm a retired mil pilot and have to give you two thumbs up on the very best in flight sim technology...even better than most multi-million $ military simulators. That's my kudo to you and your team, now my request...go the extra mile with the Pacific campaign and give us and the dreaded axis (Japs) carriers to operate off like CFS2. I believe you will sweep the flihjt sim community competition under the rug and the IL2 lovers will weep with joy. Since I was bold enough to ask for that, a bent wing F4U would be SH__ Hot!! Thanks for the countless hours of fun and learning.
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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 07:01 PM
Oleg:
I'm a retired mil pilot and have to give you two thumbs up on the very best in flight sim technology...even better than most multi-million $ military simulators. That's my kudo to you and your team, now my request...go the extra mile with the Pacific campaign and give us and the dreaded axis (Japs) carriers to operate off like CFS2. I believe you will sweep the flihjt sim community competition under the rug and the IL2 lovers will weep with joy. Since I was bold enough to ask for that, a bent wing F4U would be SH__ Hot!! Thanks for the countless hours of fun and learning.
Ghost27

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 07:29 PM
Welcome!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

and i think there will be a pacific add-on.
Maybe in da future.

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 07:42 PM
ghost, what did you fly?

I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.

XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 07:45 PM
the Graf Zeppelin, german carrier, is being modelled /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif but i dunno what oleg thinkgs about it .../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 07:59 PM
and check netwings, all addon aircraft should be on there.

I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.

XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:40 PM
The FB engine cannot accomodate carriers

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10-18-2003, 09:03 PM
You know what they say: you can wish in one hand, and crap in the other, and see which one gets full first.

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 09:56 PM
It's probably got a lot to do with the code and data properties of objects in the sim. Can you taxi onto a bridge? I.E. can an object support a plane or will there be a collision or will the plane fall through it? Somehow it does seem that only unmoveable terrain will support planes. Graphics are not realities in VR's, they are only window dressings.


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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 11:38 PM
Hej COOL! what did you fly? i'm an aircraft mechanic!!!

Most of the time, the grease monkeys and the pilots are making fun of the other ones /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Let's hear what you flew! it might be one of 'mine' aircraft. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


blueghost27 wrote:
- Oleg:
- I'm a retired mil pilot and have to give you two
- thumbs up on the very best in flight sim
- technology...even better than most multi-million $
- military simulators. That's my kudo to you and your
- team, now my request...go the extra mile with the
- Pacific campaign and give us and the dreaded axis
- (Japs) carriers to operate off like CFS2. I believe
- you will sweep the flihjt sim community competition
- under the rug and the IL2 lovers will weep with joy.
- Since I was bold enough to ask for that, a bent
- wing F4U would be SH__ Hot!! Thanks for the
- countless hours of fun and learning.
-
- Ghost27
-
- BG27



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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 06:06 AM
Carriers would really be the icing on the cake....

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 07:51 AM
no no no no no no carriers are for cfs2. go and play that.

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:20 AM
Urm....no.

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 10:15 AM
we already know that battle of britain is coming out first and thats due in the middle of 2005 . then a year and a half to two years later they will start thinking of a pacific sim. and longer to complete about another two years. itll be the hardest sim yet to do. so were talking bout approximately 2008 to 2009 till we get carriers in a BOB engined game. so can we hold off on carrier posts till at least 2007 ? youve got about five years to wait

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 03:49 PM
Chief carries are a must in any theater even the BoB. they would be a great addon or at least model it so the possiblity of adding is not so hard in the future.

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 04:48 PM
It is very true, yes, Carriers would be awesome in FB, but the game engine cannot support it that well at all. A carrier would have to be some form of an elevated runway that moves with the ship, also, you would need separate key combos for the gear and also for the tailhook, then you have to model catching a tailhook and slowing down in enough time to actually stop on the carrier, and apart from that, if you dont' stop in time, and accidentally hit another aircraft, you blow up! Not to mention the low poly ships might not look so good. I'm not even sure they're completely to scale, try taking a pilot and having him bail over the Marat and have him land on it, see if he's to scale.

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:32 PM
could just have a stationary carrier :\
i was thinking of trying to bodge one up out of houses and bridges but u get damage from touching them, no mater how gentle
other option is to hack the height/position of concreate blocks (they have no cliping) and use recon with landing
ull go thru blocks to land/see or whatever
just haveto start in mid air :\

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 10:34 AM
Carriers would be Nice but Oleg has already answered that there will be no carriers in the Next Sim.

We are getting the Zero and a Pacific Map it would seem from Oleg however.

Way ahead of any BOB Sim which is a looooong way off yet, we will be flying in the Pacific in FB before Christmas with any luck.

You do not need Carriers for the Pacific yet guys, major campaigns where fought in the Pacific War with out Carriers being involved.
New Guinea Campaign, Burma, Indo China etc,

Sure the Carriers fought some Major Battles, but there was far more to the Pacific War than Carriers and large expanses of Ocean, despite what some ******s post in this Forum to the contrary.

( Lets face it they would have to be ******s to make posts like that eh!)

Doh!

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 11:48 AM
Bobsqueek wrote:
- The FB engine cannot accomodate carriers
-

Its wrong opinion. FB engine can include almost anything. Just need real time....which we haven't currently


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T_O_A_D
10-21-2003, 01:38 PM
Oleg_Maddox wrote:
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- Bobsqueek wrote:
-- The FB engine cannot accomodate carriers
--
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- Its wrong opinion. FB engine can include almost
- anything. Just need real time....which we haven't
- currently
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- Oleg Maddox
- 1C:Maddox Games
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I hate time! When you need it faster its slower when you need it slower its faster but it never changes speed. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Its good to hear though Oleg that if the time aloud it could be done. That leaves a open hole for Hope. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:29 PM
Oleg_Maddox wrote:
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- Bobsqueek wrote:
-- The FB engine cannot accomodate carriers
--
-
- Its wrong opinion. FB engine can include almost
- anything. Just need real time....which we haven't
- currently
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- Oleg Maddox
- 1C:Maddox Games
-

So we could have carriers in FB? So we could have a MED scenario in FB?

Olegggggggggggg what have you said!!!??? Give us an addon based on MED with "Ark Royal", Swordfish, Spitfire, D 520, C 202 and SM 79.

How you can say that FB is at the end of its life when the FB graphic engine could accomodate carriers?!
For my opinion, we could have an other year (after the CD addon) with others addon.
FB an old sim..........i don't believe.

MED and PACIFIC (if you want, only for multiplayer but plaiable, at the same time, also offline) would be great meanwhile we are waiting for the new generation sim.....

Really i can't understand you when you say "we don't have time". I hope in your "currently".

Oleg, if you read, FB is absolutely an incredible sim again, but uncompleted. We need more addons before Battle of Britain. Take care of this.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:03 PM
I doubt that i will get into the BOB sim at all. Insted
i'm looking forward to Olegs WWII RTS game. We'll see what the BOB sim has to offer before i make my mind up there.
As for FB i would love to see this sim contenuie on. i think it has a longer life span than what has been said.
I plane to keep playing FB till my computer breaks or untill it's compleatly dead. Long after every one else has abandond Fb i'll still be playing it. lol
As for carriers in the PTO...that woudl eb cool i suppose... but as stated above there really isnt any need for them as there were many other battles in the PTO with out them like the Phill. I would love to have a Luzon map for FB /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Or Henderson Field.

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10-21-2003, 04:19 PM
Well its been in my mind for ages that if you can crash into a ship you could land on the thing if the damage modelings changed to allow contact with undercarriage parts arrester hooks etc.
Going to be interesting to see you attempt t/o with some weather with current code.

I hope the carriers stay out for now.

And we get "Forgotten Battles" with "Forgotten Aircraft" as most sims have P47 P51 it would be great to have the aircraft always overlooked that played important roles other than the standard B17 P51 won the War scenario, whos going to fly the P51 correctly? most will jump in a DF room and moan "it dont turn its guns are weak its too slow" instead of a high altitude long distance bomber escort.

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 05:10 AM
I love carriers so much, that I would be willing to pay for an add on that only added them. $20 bucks for carriers online would be a great deal, after all, I pay that much for some DVDs that I only watch once (2 hours). I play FB all the time (unlimited hours). A lot of computer games are overpriced peices of crap, Olegs flight sims are underpriced in my view (but I'm a hard core flight sim nut that still plays Falcon 4 SP3).

Oleg, if you do not have enough time to put carriers in the game, why not hire some new programers or allow the people who want them added to do the work for you. Heck, I bet there are skilled programers out there that would love to see carriers in the game that would model and program them for you, then you could sell them.

Sad thing for me is that I only have 1 more year of college left and so by the time a full fledge Pacific game does come out after BOB, I will no longer have the time to play video games /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 08:42 AM
I plan Med after BoB. as well as many other theatres. But MED must be the first.

MED is more complex than BoB in terms of different types of planes, ships, tanks, cars, etc....It so great mix of different things! So we need mush more time to make it than BoB, however the BoB is a basis for MED, becasue there will be all neccessary elements for the new things, that need to be in MED....

And if you all think that MED is a Desert - you are completely wrong... there are so different terrain in different areas! I was in Tunis, Egypt, etc... And trust me - the terrain there looks not like in planned in the past Desert Strike...

Own new Pacific sim we also plan, but much later.


Veltro wrote:
-
- Oleg_Maddox wrote:
--
-- Bobsqueek wrote:
--- The FB engine cannot accomodate carriers
---
--
-- Its wrong opinion. FB engine can include almost
-- anything. Just need real time....which we haven't
-- currently
--
--
--
-- Oleg Maddox
-- 1C:Maddox Games
--
-
- So we could have carriers in FB? So we could have a
- MED scenario in FB?
-
- Olegggggggggggg what have you said!!!??? Give us an
- addon based on MED with "Ark Royal", Swordfish,
- Spitfire, D 520, C 202 and SM 79.
-
- How you can say that FB is at the end of its life
- when the FB graphic engine could accomodate
- carriers?!
- For my opinion, we could have an other year (after
- the CD addon) with others addon.
- FB an old sim..........i don't believe.
-
- MED and PACIFIC (if you want, only for multiplayer
- but plaiable, at the same time, also offline) would
- be great meanwhile we are waiting for the new
- generation sim.....
-
- Really i can't understand you when you say "we don't
- have time". I hope in your "currently".
-
- Oleg, if you read, FB is absolutely an incredible
- sim again, but uncompleted. We need more addons
- before Battle of Britain. Take care of this.
-
- Regards, sorry and thank.
-
-
-
-
-
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-
-



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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 10:47 AM
Great news to here.

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 11:15 AM
bump!

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XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 11:25 AM
Oleg_Maddox wrote:
- I plan Med after BoB. as well as many other
- theatres. But MED must be the first.
-
- MED is more complex than BoB in terms of different
- types of planes, ships, tanks, cars, etc....It so
- great mix of different things! So we need mush more
- time to make it than BoB, however the BoB is a basis
- for MED, becasue there will be all neccessary
- elements for the new things, that need to be in
- MED....
-
- And if you all think that MED is a Desert - you are
- completely wrong... there are so different terrain
- in different areas! I was in Tunis, Egypt, etc...
- And trust me - the terrain there looks not like in
- planned in the past Desert Strike...
-
- Own new Pacific sim we also plan, but much later.

New Pacific sim? Good news! long wait tho /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 12:03 PM
Yes it now does sound like a long wiat until Pacific campaigns can be developed by Oleg and his team.

However, from a historical perspective I thinks it great news the MED pack may be developed first, as indivdual Australian RAAF SQNs (as opposed to flying with the RAF in the BOB etc) first started a lot of there operations in the middle east theater.

Bring it on Oleg.

Cheers and thanks for the update.

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dux-1
10-22-2003, 02:38 PM
The Med! the Med is coming!!

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 04:38 PM
~S~ Oleg....thanks for teh good news. It's good to see u posting again in here. I am especially glad to hear that FB is far from dead and that you and your Devteam have lots planned.

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 04:58 PM
Oleg... did I say, I love you man! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ... as in you're my hero! way /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif You're making my dreams come true! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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10-24-2003, 11:00 AM
First Carrier done! Thanks Air_Hog
Hope to see it in FB soon.

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XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 10:28 PM
Oleg, about carriers, is posible to add the hangars of them so we can start the mission there?
Normally all sim with carriers have a flat roof and when you land you finish the mission there, will be great if after land the plane fold the wings and get down in the elevator instead of just disapear.