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SpartanHoplite
03-19-2005, 07:31 AM
I'm not from the U.S. or Europe, but it would be hard not to notice the frequent jabs the Europeans throw the Americans around here regarding the U.S.'s well-know weight problems. So, I read the article from the Associated Press (AP) below this morning with some amusement, and thought I'd share, for what its worth:

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Obesity in men bigger problem in some European countries than in U.S.

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - The proportion of overweight or obese men is higher in some European countries than it is in the United States, experts said Tuesday in a major analysis of Europeans' expanding girth.

The International Obesity Task Force estimated that Finland, Germany, Greece, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Malta have all now exceeded the United States' 67 per cent in overweight or obese males.

"The time when obesity was thought to be a problem on the other side of the Atlantic has gone by," said Mars Di Bartolomeo, Luxembourg's minister of health.

In Greece, 38 per cent of women are obese, compared with 34 per cent in the United States.

The report was released at the launch of the 25-country European Union's plan for action on the problem in its member states.

The International Obesity Task Force, a global coalition of obesity scientists and research centres advising the EU, had previously estimated in 2003 that about 200 million of the 350 million adults living in what is now the European Union may be overweight or obese.

However, a closer evaluation of the figures in the latest analysis indicates that may be an underestimate of the scale of the problem, according to the group.

Studies have shown that being even slightly overweight can dramatically increase the risk of certain diseases, such as diabetes. Obesity is also linked to heart disease, high blood pressure, strokes, respiratory disease, arthritis and some types of cancer.

"We can have disastrous effects from (obesity) on health and the national economy," said EU Health Commissioner Markos Kyprianou.

Up to eight per cent of the current health-care costs in the EU can be attributed to the effects of being overweight or obese, he said.

To counter the worsening trend, the EU is banding together with the food and marketing industries, consumer groups and health experts, to assess national and industry efforts to counter the trend.

It is the EU's monitoring of the food industry's efforts that makes the European Union's approach to the obesity problem "totally novel," said Philip James, chairman of the International Obesity Task Force which advises governments around the world on how to tackle the problem.

"The industry is being challenged to demonstrate, transparently, that it is going to be part of the solution," James said in a telephone interview after the launch of the program in Brussels.

"They have to say how much more money they will add to help solve the obesity problem. They have to put forward a plan on how exactly they are going to contribute year by year, and their contribution has to get bigger every year."

The food industry hopes to better inform consumers by offering detailed nutrition labels and customer-care lines. The EU head office also wants the industry to produce healthier, tastier foods to compete with high-fat, high-sugar foods.

But the problem is not limited to the adult population.

The IOTF estimates that among the EU's 103 million youngsters the number of overweight children rises by 400,000 each year. More than 30 per cent of children aged between seven and 11 are overweight in Italy, Portugal, Spain and Malta.

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SH

SpartanHoplite
03-19-2005, 07:33 AM
The link, for those who want it:

http://healthandfitness.sympatico.msn.ca/News/ContentPosting.aspx?contentid=e5d28fba6cc94950a3e4 27babe715bf7&show=True&number=6&showbyline=False&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc

SH

flyingscampi
03-19-2005, 08:39 AM
Lip up fatty

Spartan_GR
03-19-2005, 08:53 AM
Ahm ... i am from Greece http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and sadly i must say that the article above says the truth. Indeed, especially in the last 10-20 years you see a lot more fat people than before. Our way of life is changing ... Junk food, more stress in the lives we're living, less free time ( so you have to eat something quickly - and most of the times this "quick" food is fattening ), all those things are contributing to the problem...

Monty_Thrud
03-19-2005, 09:01 AM
Will this be modelled in the new FM?.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

han freak solo
03-19-2005, 09:12 AM
^^ Yeah, like will it be like taking off with drop tanks filled up just because the pilot is a porker?

Will the canopy be able to close?

Will we have to agree to a "truth in weight statement" before we can fly a particular ride?

Would this become an error screen message?
"REQUEST DENIED - YOU ARE TOO LARGE TO FIT IN THE Bf-109. WE SUGGEST YOU TRY THE P-47 OR BECOME A BOMBER PILOT. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

VW-IceFire
03-19-2005, 10:01 AM
Its a problem in most Western nations. We eat too much.

Still...I suspect there's a greater proportion of grossly overweight Americans (greater levels of extreme weight) than there are in Europe which may have its greatest distribution in the generally overweight (rather than extreme).

But give them some time and more McDonalds and that could change.

People eat far too much. Need to eat healthy snacks, drink more water (2L a day!), and exercise. I think full time employers need to provide a exercise session for their companies every day. Boost productivity.

TheGozr
03-19-2005, 10:08 AM
Yes it's true that all western countries are getting bigger in one sens. but don't forget fat over there is considerate almost normal over here in cal and skiny in the mid US . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BaldieJr
03-19-2005, 10:28 AM
I weigh 170 lbs and I'm from the US.

huggy87
03-19-2005, 10:49 AM
Something else that favors the europeans is their better public transit system. America is a very car dependent nation, our country is very spread out and most of our cities are sprawling with poor or nonextistent public transit. Folks here will go to the store to buy enough food for weeks at a time (think of all the preservatives). When I lived in Switzerland and Germany, folks would generally walk to the store and only buy enough groceries for 3 days to a week. I worked at a major supermarket one summer in Bern, and there was not even a parking lot!

F0_Dark_P
03-19-2005, 11:07 AM
i was choked when i weigh my self yesterday, i eat chips and candy to often and on mc donalds etc, but i only weigh 68kg, but then i do 60 pushups eavry day, without them i think i wouldent be in this shape i am in now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Waldo.Pepper
03-19-2005, 11:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by han freak solo:

Will the canopy be able to close?

Would this become an error screen message?
"REQUEST DENIED - YOU ARE TOO LARGE TO FIT IN THE Bf-109. WE SUGGEST YOU TRY THE P-47 OR BECOME A BOMBER PILOT. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

heywooood
03-19-2005, 11:55 AM
yep...and the ol' seat pan used to be extra deep to allow for parachute...now that space is needed for Hugh Jass...no room for the 'chute.

Jagdklinger
03-19-2005, 03:20 PM
Han Solo Freak - "REQUEST DENIED - YOU ARE TOO LARGE TO FIT IN THE Bf-109. WE SUGGEST YOU TRY THE P-47 OR BECOME A BOMBER PILOT."

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

When the first P-47 landed at Australia, the pilot was asked "Where's the rest of the crew?" To me, the defintivie all-American plane...

ploughman
03-19-2005, 03:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I weigh 170 lbs and I'm from the US. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes Baldie, but you're only 7. When you're full growed you'll be Zep sized like all your trougher mates.

ploughman
03-19-2005, 03:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I weigh 170 lbs and I'm from the US. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes Baldie, but you're only 7. When you're full growed you'll be Zep sized like all your trougher mates. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://w3.ag.uiuc.edu/AIM/Graphics/fat.gif

ploughman
03-19-2005, 03:36 PM
Well I screwed that post up didn't I? Baldie, I'm sure you're svelte, how's the hair?

han freak solo
03-20-2005, 04:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I weigh 170 lbs and I'm from the US. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes Baldie, but you're only 7. When you're full growed you'll be Zep sized like all your trougher mates. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only 7... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Chuck_Older
03-20-2005, 04:17 PM
Nice sig pic, SH http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SpartanHoplite
03-20-2005, 04:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Nice sig pic, SH http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe... You deserve most of the credit for that one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But I did try to have it somewhat reminiscent of that great AVG formation flying colour photo...

SH

blakduk
03-20-2005, 08:54 PM
There are plenty of fatties getting around most nations of the world- what i want to know is, are we required to change our Avatars, or can i continue to delude myself that i am still thin and gorgeous?
BTW, what is the weight limit for a WW2 vintage parachute? I need to know because i seem to need to use them frequently in this game.

TheVoodooPriest
03-21-2005, 02:13 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/VoodooPriest/euro_vs_america.jpg

Sorry, I just couldn't resist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but I had to admit that I was a real fatty till the end of december and then i suddenly lost 27 kilograms of weight. Now I'm quite comfortable with my new 78 kilos.

madsarmy
03-21-2005, 02:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by han freak solo:
REQUEST DENIED - YOU ARE TOO LARGE TO FIT IN THE Bf-109. WE SUGGEST YOU TRY THE P-47 OR BECOME A BOMBER PILOT. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or the Bombhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

huggy87
03-21-2005, 08:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheVoodooPriest:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/VoodooPriest/euro_vs_america.jpg

Sorry, I just couldn't resist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but I had to admit that I was a real fatty till the end of december and then i suddenly lost 27 kilograms of weight. Now I'm quite comfortable with my new 78 kilos. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow! 27 kilos in two months. Did you cut off a leg? BTW, this has been brought up before, but the girl on the left is actually american.

triggerhappyfin
03-21-2005, 09:03 AM
Europeans FAT???

OH NO....NOT ME!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/main.jpg

F0_Dark_P
03-21-2005, 10:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Nahoj/doritos.jpg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ploughman
03-21-2005, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
but I had to admit that I was a real fatty till the end of december and then i suddenly lost 27 kilograms of weight. Now I'm quite comfortable with my new 78 kilos. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That sort of happened to me once. I went to India and exposed myself to their exceptionally cataclysmic gastro-intestinal flora and fauna. Next thing I know I'm thin again.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TheVoodooPriest
03-22-2005, 06:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheVoodooPriest:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/VoodooPriest/euro_vs_america.jpg

Sorry, I just couldn't resist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but I had to admit that I was a real fatty till the end of december and then i suddenly lost 27 kilograms of weight. Now I'm quite comfortable with my new 78 kilos. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow! 27 kilos in two months. Did you cut off a leg? BTW, this has been brought up before, but the girl on the left is actually american. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, it doesn't really matter which girl is the real american, what counts is that it's a funny pic. And concerning my loss of weight: Just get yourself a cancer and see how much weight you can lose.