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VFA-195 Snacky
03-23-2005, 12:30 AM
With all the patches and flight model talk I was curious at what point the sound engine of the game would be upgraded. Pacific Fighters looks amazing and is the most realistic looking sim to date, but the sound quality (to be very blunt) stinks!

Just about every aircraft sounds alike. Inline engines sound exactly the same as rotory engines. German aircraft sound very much like allied aircraft. Gun sounds are all generic.
Is there an upgrade to the sound in this game in the future?

Am hoping for something along the lines of this
http://p-38online.com/flyby2.wav

flyingscampi
03-23-2005, 03:38 AM
You'll have to wait for the next generation of maddox sim I suspect. The sound engine in this series doesn't use sample sounds like the Microsoft sims.

I think the Daimler Benz DB601 sounds almost exactly the same as the Briggs & Stratton 4hp lump in my lawnmower http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you try the original IL-2 Sturmovik demo the engine sounds are slightly better than they are now for some reason - you get a supercharger whistle on the 109 for example.

HotelBushranger
03-23-2005, 04:45 AM
Ooooh! A WHISTLE! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Thank god for that!

But yes, some nice pretty sounds to shoot down the IJA to would be nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
03-23-2005, 09:06 AM
It was always the weak point of this sim, the sound...

han freak solo
03-23-2005, 10:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>you get a supercharger whistle on the 109 for example. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I MISS THE WHISTLE!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

I have the original IL2 still on the hard drive just for the WHISTLE!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Cess-SGTRoc
03-23-2005, 10:58 PM
Yea, I never quite understood why they took the turbo sound out. And if you will check, the motor sounds for some of the other aircraft where alot better.
I loaded up some of the old games and patches to try this out this week, and I found that right after FB came out and about 1 or 2 patches into it the sound qualty went down.
I fact I am testing now, but it looks like it was taken out about the same time they took the 4800 hz out of the sound setup menu. And they took out a few other settings also.
But if you look in you config file you can still turn on some of those, but not the 4800 rate.

Hmm. Does anyone else remember why he did this?

marcocomparato
03-23-2005, 11:44 PM
the game was upgraded for OpenAL at that point (opensource EAX)

the game uses sound shaders, theyre not as real and gritty as the MS sims, but frankly, its the sound thats choking most of those games using DirectSound which is a CPU hog (EAX and OpenAL uses true hardware acceleration)

What Oleg has done is given you the ability to have multiple planes in the air at once at a very hi framerate and low latency and pre-cache spec. this sim runs across a wider low-end compatibilyt spectrum and THATS WHY SO MANY PLAY IT.

smart

Sigi_di_Capri
03-25-2005, 04:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by flyingscampi:
The sound engine in this series doesn't use sample sounds like the Microsoft sims.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And lets hope they'll continue to use synthesized sounds in future projects. If done well it can be a lot better than sampled sounds.

flyingscampi
03-25-2005, 05:17 AM
Hey I was just explaining why the sounds couldn't be changed like the MS sims - I'm really looking forward to the new synthesized, performance efficient sounds in BoB!

If they sound like the RealAir Spit XIV in FS2004 then I'm a happy bunny but not at the sacrifice of performance or physics.

Bolt40
03-27-2005, 09:06 AM
Yes you'd think someone who goes all out to make a good sim..would add the authenic engine sounds..thats whats lacking among other things in the game .. Aces High2 doesnt top IL2 on graphics..but at least u can download authenic engine sounds / gunsights / skins and they DONT affect gameplay . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif