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Haigotron
07-07-2006, 11:37 AM
what are the power settings on the i16 while clinging to the underbelly (underwing too) of its TB3 mother?

i heard someone tell me that they put full power to help the TB3..but isnt the purpose of being carried to not waste any gas and increase the i16's range?

do you prop feathers (or prop 10%) and hang back under the wing?

or do u put prop to 50% and a bit of throttle to pretend ur making a difference?

dbillo
07-07-2006, 11:57 AM
IIRC, when I tried this, I noticed the AI on the other wing throttled up, so I did the same. As far as range goes, while you are attached, the TB-3 keeps the I-16's fuel tanks topped up, so when you release, you've got full range available.

p1ngu666
07-07-2006, 12:18 PM
dont think it makes much difference http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Willey
07-07-2006, 01:53 PM
IRL you'd keep going, top speed was ~270-280 on the deck with 2 I-16s attached. Fuel was given through by the carrier plane. But in FB the I-16 throttle has no effect, apart from the cooling, so I'd even switch the engine off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Haigotron
07-07-2006, 04:42 PM
what you say about the topping off would make sense in RL...

but i was also afraid of the ingame performance..its none the less cool to detach and fly off from the TB3, as the bomber's engine noises slowly fade away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But also ingame, the maps arent really big enough to actually feel the range difference with or without a TB3 correc? IOW, can the i16 go anywhere on the map w/o the need of the Tb3 (ingame)?

SlickStick
07-08-2006, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Willey:
IRL you'd keep going, top speed was ~270-280 on the deck with 2 I-16s attached. Fuel was given through by the carrier plane. But in FB the I-16 throttle has no effect, apart from the cooling, so I'd even switch the engine off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I-16 engines can't be restarted in the air, IIRC? I forget, but anyhow, Last time we messed about with this setup, we had one one each side and would dogfight each other, then detatch, dogfight the I-16s, while the TB3s went at each other.

We had hours of fun when this feature was first introduced. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Esel1964
07-08-2006, 10:02 PM
I'll admit,though I've been flying IL-2 since FB was new;I don't experiment near enough to find the hidden "goodies".I had no clue the TB-3 SPB/I-16 hookup was possible.
I've got 4.04,is the TB-3/I-16 hookup avilable on the standard 4.04,or do I need an add-on?

If it's standard,how do I find it?
I fell into the habit of flying a couple of planes,and ignoring the rest,I guess I need to 'get around' more. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Oh well,live and learn-that's why I started coming to this forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

SlickStick
07-09-2006, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
I'll admit,though I've been flying IL-2 since FB was new;I don't experiment near enough to find the hidden "goodies".I had no clue the TB-3 SPB/I-16 hookup was possible.
I've got 4.04,is the TB-3/I-16 hookup avilable on the standard 4.04,or do I need an add-on?

If it's standard,how do I find it?
I fell into the habit of flying a couple of planes,and ignoring the rest,I guess I need to 'get around' more. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Oh well,live and learn-that's why I started coming to this forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Sure, the easy way is just be in an online dogfight map with two friends and with those planes in the list.

1. Assign a key or stick button in Controls to "Attach/Detach Aircraft."

2. Have one person spawn on the ground with the TB3 SPB and two others with the I-16s.

3. Position the TB3 to allow the I-16s to roll under the wings with clearance on the sides (so they don't crash into something getting there).

4. As they are under the brackets on the wings, they hit "Attach/Detach", leaving the engines running. (I also like to take bombs on the I-16s, just to cause more destruction before dogfighting, hehe).

5. The TB3 takes off and flies to destination, where the I-16 pilots then hit "Attach/Detach" when they are ready to release from the momma bird. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Haigotron
07-09-2006, 08:32 AM
Its like watching a discovery channel bird documentary... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LStarosta
07-09-2006, 09:36 AM
Haha, this reminds me of some fun me and JG7_Rall would have. We'd get this kid to come flying with us and either Rall or I would take the TB3 while the other kid would take an I16. We'd hook up the I16's and take off towards some hills or something, and I'd tell the naive kid that his keeping his engine on was having adverse effects on my flight performance, so he shut it off, but Rall kept his on. Then I'd approach a hill in a 45* dive and release the airplanes. Rall would pull up, while the other kid face planted into the side of the hill. Fun stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Esel1964
07-09-2006, 10:22 PM
Slickstick-
Many thanks for the info. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SlickStick
07-09-2006, 10:31 PM
My pleasure. I may be a little fervent about honor and integrity, but I'm not really a bad guy.

I'm just drawn that way. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Esel1964
07-09-2006, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
My pleasure. I may be a little fervent about honor and integrity, but I'm not really a bad guy.

I'm just drawn that way. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

I actually resemble my avatar,the wings are a kit I found on ebay! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Siwarrior
07-09-2006, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
Haha, this reminds me of some fun me and JG7_Rall would have. We'd get this kid to come flying with us and either Rall or I would take the TB3 while the other kid would take an I16. We'd hook up the I16's and take off towards some hills or something, and I'd tell the naive kid that his keeping his engine on was having adverse effects on my flight performance, so he shut it off, but Rall kept his on. Then I'd approach a hill in a 45* dive and release the airplanes. Rall would pull up, while the other kid face planted into the side of the hill. Fun stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

awe thats mean http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


but funny http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

MadRuski
07-09-2006, 11:50 PM
so could the hook up be done in single player? any chance of attaching on to the TB while it is in flight?

justflyin
07-10-2006, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by MadRuski:
so could the hook up be done in single player? any chance of attaching on to the TB while it is in flight?

I've never tried it in single-player, but it may be possible to create a mission with the I-16s already attached? Not sure if you would be able to change between the TB3 and the I-16s though, since two of them at least would have to be A.I.

As for in the air "Attach/Detach", I've never seen it done and I'm 99.99% sure it only works on the ground.

Talamir
07-10-2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by justflyin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MadRuski:
any chance of attaching on to the TB while it is in flight?

As for in the air "Attach/Detach", I've never seen it done and I'm 99.99% sure it only works on the ground. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My friends and I love the TB-3 and I-16 combo so we screw around with it often. We've tried re-attaching mid-air, and the results are often hilariously fatal to all parties. Unless there is a very specific spot the I-16 must be in, I'm pretty sure it is not possible.