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mynameisroland
06-29-2007, 09:34 AM
This might be very old news but Ive always wanted to know:

Why does the Fw 190 D9 44 go so fast at medium/high altitude? What model of the D9 does the IL2 versions speed match and is the speed accurate?

Compare (not infallible - I know) says it can hit 730 kmh(slightly less) at 5,500m - roughly, which is 453 mph at 18,000ft ?

badatflyski
06-29-2007, 09:59 AM
i would rather say: medium altitude, from 7000m it's what i "would" call high altitude,you know, where the poneys flew, or the bolts, above the B17 formations http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

neural_dream
06-29-2007, 10:13 AM
When I was testing aircraft for my guide I had reached 715km/h at 5900m as max.

Xiolablu3
06-29-2007, 11:03 AM
WHat we need is a FW190 performance test to compare with.

Anyone got a link?

Brain32
06-29-2007, 11:11 AM
Dora is too fast at alt and too slow at around 2000-3000m.

mynameisroland
06-29-2007, 11:15 AM
It has always been around 20kmh too slow at 2000m/3000m iirc, but always been too fast up high too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xiolablu3
06-29-2007, 11:17 AM
I'd gladly trade that alt performance for the extra boost at 2000-3000. Thats always the height I am tangling with La7's on the Berlin map Ukded2.

Excellent planeset BTW that map, S! to whoever made it.

Me262/Fw190D9/109K4C3/Ta152 vs La7 B20/Yak3/Yak9U

Brain32
06-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Hey I remember that one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, once I took Me262 and all was fine got 4 kills rather quickly and then broke my wings on a pull-up from a dive - doh

tigertalon
06-29-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
I'd gladly trade that alt performance for the extra boost at 2000-3000. Thats always the height I am tangling with La7's on the Berlin map Ukded2.

Excellent planeset BTW that map, S! to whoever made it.

Me262/Fw190D9/109K4C3/Ta152 vs La7 B20/Yak3/Yak9U

This map is one of tipical examples why I begged so much for a limited number of spawns per airfield... because in the beginning everyone picks a Me262 and that's not really funny if you fly red, but when they run out of them (mostly to wing snaps and engine burnups) it becomes even. If only one would be able to put a me262 on one base, and assign, say only 2 spawnpoints there so there would not be more than 2 262s in the air at any moment, all the rest would have to fly props. Much much more historical IMO.

Xiolablu3
06-29-2007, 11:34 AM
DO you think?


I usually see a few people pick 262's, then get bored with them after one flight and go back to good old prop planes like the FW190.

Sure it can be tough for reds when there is a Me262 pilot who knows his stuff, but I have had great success shooting down Me262's on that map with an La7.

The Me262 really cannot afford to turn with the La7's and then hes got the problem of one hit crippling him, or setting himself on fire. ALso with exteranls and F6 enabled the La7 has every opportunity to see him coming if hes on the ball.

I havent played it too much recently, but the last time I played it, that map was an excellent struggle for both sides.

I really think that without the Me262 that it would be a bit too much in favour of the yak3 and La7. Which are as fast as the German planes but can also turn on a dime. Lets face it the 109K4C3 is bassically useless at the speeds the fights occuron that map. I took one last time I played it and it just couldnt manouvre at all, as we were travelling at 600+kph all the time in ordere to stay safe.

As it is now, I really dont mind which side I fly for as both have advantages over the other.

mynameisroland
06-29-2007, 11:36 AM
I always fly the D9 45 on that map and do very well against La7s and Yak3/9s. Nowadays I take the Arado as well or the P63/IL10 for Red side.

Xiolablu3
06-29-2007, 11:38 AM
Me too, I prefer it even to the 262 as its much safer.

Often with the Me262 you can simply kill yourself by one mistake of moving the throttle too fast or one little flak hit setting fire to the engine.

I will take one for a try now and again, but always fall back to the Dora. As long as you stay fast, in the vertical, and use teamwork, the Dora is very effective vs the late Russian planes.

If there is an ME262 there to help as well then thats even better.

The 262 can force him to manouvre to avoid and get him slowed down ready for the better manouvring Fw190s to pounce.

On the red side, I like the good ol' La7 B20. Take a couple of little bombs to take out some AAA or trucks, then cover the incoming IL10's and A20's at the target area.

badatflyski
06-30-2007, 03:43 AM
not a really good quality but anyway:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/badatflyski/FW190/d9speed2chart.jpg