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BBB_Hyperion
04-01-2005, 01:23 AM
Finaly the Mine Shell is back and its close to mk108 as exspected.

http://www.butcherbirds.de/hypesstorage/40mg15120overdone.jpg

ImpStarDuece
04-01-2005, 01:32 AM
Well its GREAT to see it fixed but it shouldn't even approach the Mk 108 in power.

The 20mm Mingenschloss (sp? has a round that is 82 mm in length and a weight of 162 grams and a HE charge of about 35 grams (or 22%). The 30mm Mk 108 round (30x90mm) has a weight of 480 grams and a HE charge of about 120 grams (or about 25%).

Given a heavier shell even with the 108s lover velocity the 30mm shell should do about 3 1/4 times the damage of a 20mm Mine shell.


Still, if its in the game i'm not going to complain. Perhaps we can FINALLY move a few of the chips of some peoples shoulders.

Hetzer_II
04-01-2005, 01:37 AM
YES YES YES YES YES...

Now red side will learn to fear the 190....
Think about the combat potential of the new born D9.... awsome......

BTW: Some more power for the 0.50?


Thx!!!!

Von_Zero
04-01-2005, 01:53 AM
are you serious about this or is another april's fool joke? I thought that other testers were under NDA, and couldn't reveal anything about it, so this make it very suspicious... no offense. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

GUARD4000
04-01-2005, 01:59 AM
are u serious?I mean the 4.0 is out?

JG53-Falkster
04-01-2005, 02:04 AM
It's great to fly in those new clouds, and it's a pleasure to hit planes with the new mg151 bullets!

good job oleg

Nubarus
04-01-2005, 02:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
its close to mk108 as exspected. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As expected?

Are you seriously trying to convice people that the 20mm HE round should have nearly the same power as a 30mm HE round?

What a load of cr@p. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hristos
04-01-2005, 02:22 AM
And I already thought how the board needs another one of my threads http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Nubarus
04-01-2005, 02:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hristos:
And I already thought how the board needs another one of my threads http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess not, we have seen what they are about.
Pornographic manga drawings and ***** enlargement adds.

EFG_Zeb
04-01-2005, 02:47 AM
No offense meant Hyperion, but this could be a sceenie of Mk 108 for all I can see... I am not convinced... Besides it is april 1st isn't it?

Badsight.
04-01-2005, 02:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nubarus:
As expected?

Are you seriously trying to convice people that the 20mm HE round should have nearly the same power as a 30mm HE round?

What a load of cr@p. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>lol , not a happy camper here

carguy_
04-01-2005, 02:52 AM
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Von_Rat
04-01-2005, 02:53 AM
what took you soon long to post this. it was already apiril 1st for 23 minutes before you posted.

i see you already have some nibblers on the bait.

BBB_Hyperion
04-01-2005, 03:40 AM
Ok you have done it made a video.

http://rapidshare.de/files/1087200/mg15120yak.avi.html

Its a free host service so click on link scroll down and press free then wait the time and you can download the avi. Its in xvid compression.

Its really a f4 with mg151/20.

Badsight.
04-01-2005, 03:48 AM
thats a mean poker face you have Hyper : )

Hetzer_II
04-01-2005, 03:50 AM
Gott sei deiner Seele gn¤dig, wenn DAS ein Aprilscherz sein sollte....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Vipez-
04-01-2005, 04:41 AM
I believe you Hyp, I got confirmation from Oleg by mail long time ago, that Minegrenade will be added eventually in next patch..

Plus look at the tracers from the first pic, showing red tracers from MG17, so its F-4 or G-2 definately http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Unless you have tricked with Photoshop / Paintshop Pro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great news anyway.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think we can actually see the Real butcherbird in the skys now, instead of vegetarian bird (not talking about A-8/a-9 with MK108s..)

Nubarus
04-01-2005, 04:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Badsight.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nubarus:
As expected?

Are you seriously trying to convice people that the 20mm HE round should have nearly the same power as a 30mm HE round?

What a load of cr@p. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>lol , not a happy camper here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am glad it is fixed but it should not have nowhere near the same power as a 30mm HE as Hyperion suggests.

THAT is what I was refering at but I guess that is too difficult for you to understand.

Kannaksen_hanu
04-01-2005, 05:02 AM
Nobody will swallow this April-joke; this is too absurd.

GUARD4000
04-01-2005, 05:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
I believe you Hyp, I got confirmation from Oleg by mail long time ago, that Minegrenade will be added eventually in next patch..

Plus look at the tracers from the first pic, showing red tracers from MG17, so its F-4 or G-2 definately http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Unless you have tricked with Photoshop / Paintshop Pro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great news anyway.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think we can actually see the Real butcherbird in the skys now, instead of vegetarian bird (not talking about A-8/a-9 with MK108s..) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah,it is mg151/20.But i can do that with 3.05 too.I dont need any PS,just turn off the realistic weapons.And in fact,even with full realistic settings a few hits on the wingroot can take a wing off.The pic and the video can prove nothing.

What i really care about is when can i get the patch.Anything else about the patch is a April 1st's joke.

Badsight.
04-01-2005, 05:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Nobody will swallow this April-joke; this is too absurd. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nubarus did http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif , Hook - Line - & Sinker , damm near pulled BBB_Hyper in http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nubarus:
THAT is what I was refering at but I guess that is too difficult for you to understand. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>arr ha har har haaaar , come on you can do better that that

dude you need to get off the horse , its too high for you

seriously , you are highly strung & need to lighten up

tigertalon
04-01-2005, 05:12 AM
This is great news!

I have an idea: we have been flying with hampered Mg151/20 for 2 years now, how about overmodelling it to the same extent for next two years, just for the offset? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He he, looks like Fw190 is seriously gonna be the ultimate killing machine (as it should be).

reddevil49
04-01-2005, 07:06 AM
Ha Ha.lol Ok you can jump up and shout April Fools now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Vipez-
04-01-2005, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GUARD4000:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
I believe you Hyp, I got confirmation from Oleg by mail long time ago, that Minegrenade will be added eventually in next patch..

Plus look at the tracers from the first pic, showing red tracers from MG17, so its F-4 or G-2 definately http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Unless you have tricked with Photoshop / Paintshop Pro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great news anyway.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think we can actually see the Real butcherbird in the skys now, instead of vegetarian bird (not talking about A-8/a-9 with MK108s..) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah,it is mg151/20.But i can do that with 3.05 too.I dont need any PS,just turn off the realistic weapons.And in fact,even with full realistic settings a few hits on the wingroot can take a wing off.The pic and the video can prove nothing.

What i really care about is when can i get the patch.Anything else about the patch is a April 1st's joke. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you are a pessimist, i am an optimist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hristos
04-01-2005, 08:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nubarus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hristos:
And I already thought how the board needs another one of my threads http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess not, we have seen what they are about.
Pornographic manga drawings and ***** enlargement adds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're such a grumpy old man ;D

faustnik
04-01-2005, 09:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nubarus:

Are you seriously trying to convice people that the 20mm HE round should have nearly the same power as a 30mm HE round?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nubarus,

Please go to this site, I think it might help:

http://www.d-barb.com/

That's gotta hurt.

crazyivan1970
04-01-2005, 09:57 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DarthBane_
04-01-2005, 11:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nubarus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
its close to mk108 as exspected. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As expected?

Are you seriously trying to convice people that the 20mm HE round should have nearly the same power as a 30mm HE round?

What a load of cr@p. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, your head Noobarus is full off cr@p. Go back to your noob sig pic plane and wait to be baptised by new d9.

ploughman
04-01-2005, 12:32 PM
Is it Saturday yet?

NorrisMcWhirter
04-01-2005, 01:32 PM
Working 151/20? I'll believe it when I see it first hand.

Now, I don't like to be a pessimist but what Oleg giveth with one hand, he taketh away with the other.

So, Hyper..what else did he pork? There isn't much left on the 190 front what with femtometre^2 holes causing bad handling or fuel leaks if the sun shines on the plane in the wrong way....even worse view? mk108 as powerful as the 7.92mms...? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers,
Norris

BBB_Hyperion
04-01-2005, 02:13 PM
Ok i give up 1st april is almost over thanks for your cooperation the video has been downloaded 58 times the topic has been viewed over 900 times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Its all faked stuff even when i made a small error on first picture no one noticed yet it seems http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif So enjoy the rest of the day and be more critic to stuff posted on the internet. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MG151/20 is not even close to MK108 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Nubarus
04-01-2005, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DarthBane_:
Nope, your head Noobarus is full off cr@p. Go back to your noob sig pic plane and wait to be baptised by new d9. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you think of it all by yourself or did your daddy had to help you again?

RedDeth
04-01-2005, 07:11 PM
what a low life

jugent
04-02-2005, 01:30 AM
Its sounds as a april-fool statement.
I´ll be sure about that when I see it happend. I have years of sceptisism in the matter Maddox team make good things for axis planes in general and Fw in particular.
German planes dont taste good in Maddox-games

BBB_Hyperion
04-02-2005, 02:15 AM
Well dont worry i used 1.2 Il2 for filming there the guns had the mine shells . So we can exspect that the effect will finaly return (when not any ballacing things come into gear). Was quite surprised how much difference the guns have towards offical last version. Its no mk108 but could rip off plane wings in 1 pass with fw thats hardly possible with last offical version(only high angle pass maybe) and as it was shown in the video with good angle you can even rip the wing off with only 1 motor cannon . The controls and precision in 1.2 is somewhat less cause you need to keep ball centered for accurate gunnery (that was on realistic btw).

Jagdklinger
04-02-2005, 05:50 AM
Even in jest, the MG151 can result in drawn swords... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm surprise this thread hasn't been locked - all the other funny ones seem to have been. Obviously it is OK to make fun of each other, but don't lampoon Oleg or you're a goooner.

Must say this was blatantly obvious from the start - when I read the title "MG151 finally fixed in 4.0" I gave a bitter laugh, rolled my eyes, and didn't bother to read it till today. Well done, BBB_Hyperion - a nice haul for a well-executed gag. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I enjoyed reading the impassioned posts you provoked.