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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 03:16 AM
Anyone else having problems with the Level Stabilizer while flying the HE-111, I put on the stabilizer at 2500m but the plane always drops down to about 2300m, If this is supposed to be a LEVEL Stabilizer why is'nt it stabilizing my level altitude, The Level Stabilizer should be an autopilot that does'nt follow any waypoints but just flys straight & level at the altitude you set it at, When i'm in the cockpit i'm the pilot BUT when i'm looking through the bombsite i'm theBombadier & should'nt have to worry about keeping the plane straight & level, It's hard enough trying to find & accuratly bomb the target without having to fly the plane as well, Any other HE-111 pilots agree.

"An attack against a unit of Flying Fortresses was something like controlled suicide...Sometimes 50, Sometimes 80 machine guns were firing at you... You attempted to close your eyes & continue to fire, Frightened to death, Frightened to death."

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 03:16 AM
Anyone else having problems with the Level Stabilizer while flying the HE-111, I put on the stabilizer at 2500m but the plane always drops down to about 2300m, If this is supposed to be a LEVEL Stabilizer why is'nt it stabilizing my level altitude, The Level Stabilizer should be an autopilot that does'nt follow any waypoints but just flys straight & level at the altitude you set it at, When i'm in the cockpit i'm the pilot BUT when i'm looking through the bombsite i'm theBombadier & should'nt have to worry about keeping the plane straight & level, It's hard enough trying to find & accuratly bomb the target without having to fly the plane as well, Any other HE-111 pilots agree.

"An attack against a unit of Flying Fortresses was something like controlled suicide...Sometimes 50, Sometimes 80 machine guns were firing at you... You attempted to close your eyes & continue to fire, Frightened to death, Frightened to death."

Oberst Johannes Steinhoff (176 kills)

XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 04:08 AM
It will hold the planes attitude level but you still need to trim to maintain altitude.

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XyZspineZyX
08-25-2003, 04:25 AM
I fly the 111 on a regular basis and its really not that big of a deal. Mine will drop a little as well but it will stabilize and hold that. Its just a minor adjustment on the bomb site. Make sure the plane is trimmed out to fly level before engaging it. Like I said it may drop some but it will stabilize. And its not really an autopilot. You still have to keep an eye on the plane while setting up the bomb site. Bomb site settings only take a few seconds. You can put the altitude and speed into it before takeoff or during flight well ahead of the target. Then when near the target make a few minor adjustments, lock the automated site and return to cockpit. I try to watch the site until bomb release just to make sure, but usually no more input is required. And to find a target you need recon photos and landmarks. Bodies of water, cities, road crossings etc. If you are in a mission you should have this info. Bomber pilots didnt just go out wondering around looking for targets. It was always a well planned mission. Most of the targets in this game are industry which are easy to find. Anything else needs to be planned. Photos of the target,bombing speeds, altitudes, landmarks, getting to and from the target area were all part of the briefing.

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 04:42 AM
I know what you mean its a pain in the *** when the wind takes your Heinkel all over the place, "Automation" just keeps the altitude, like Hobnail says you do have to trim the plane. I use to have my trims set in my numeric pad keys as well as a second POV hatswitch i have but its still a pain in the ***. My solution is this:

Tweek the hell out of your joystick so its completely like a wet noodle, much like actual control sticks, I'm pulling back on mine till its busting just to take off, you can leave it and the plane will fly itself, big movement of the control stick to have little effect on your planes airleons etc..this way your plane is easier to fly. I use to have mine very touchy, you know one twist of the wrist and you're doing barrel rolls to no end, till I actually got to fly a real plane, a Twin engine otter up north with my brother who has fishing camps. Big heavy plane, its smaller than a real Heinkel but he let me fly it a bit, the only big difference is that you really feel the movement, the gforce, just up and down with the yoke a bit its like dropping 50 feet in seconds, oh you feel it. Any way the controls seemed that they needed more movement to have effect than on the compute game, so having mine very loose is way more realistic.

Hiel Hitler! The fatherland will dominate the Russian horde, those subhuman slime will die by the millions!

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:31 AM
"Hiel Hitler! The fatherland will dominate the Russian horde, those subhuman slime will die by the millions!"

Nice sig psychopetey. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are too young to understand how many Russian civilians were exterminated by the Nazi regime through labor or outright execution. I suggest you remove it before me or someone else reports it and it gets removed for you.

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 09:56 AM
Wow, that's a stupid sig!

It seems the level stabiliser in 1.1b works less than in 1.0, that's to say it needs a lot more trim.
I don't mind, as my goal is to be able to fly & bomb at the same time.

'Smoke and a pancake?'

fluke39
08-27-2003, 10:02 AM
Forgive my ignorance but i always thought the level stabiliser was "level autopilot" - until i found this had nothing to do with leveling the plane - but refers to the "positions" in the plane as "levels"

what is the level stabiliser's exact name in the control menu? i have not been able to locate it (is it called "level stabiliser" ??)

edit: yes i would rethink your sig if i were you psychopetey - there are probably far more sensitive people around than ofzo and AKD /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


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Message Edited on 08/27/0309:10AM by fluke39

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 10:12 AM
I use the level stabilize all the time in my bf-109, even though I don't think it actually had one. I think this is turning stuff over to your 'pilot' so you can think about what you are doing and look around. It holds it perfectly level, but you will loose altitude if you don't have enough thrust.

fluke39
08-27-2003, 10:25 AM
is there a key assigned by default to the "level stabiliser" - or do we need to assign a key - if so is it actually called "level stabiliser" in the control menu ??

Anyone?

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 10:26 AM
IIRC just 'level stabiliser' /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 12:40 PM
fluke39 wrote:
- is there a key assigned by default to the "level
- stabiliser" - or do we need to assign a key - if so
- is it actually called "level stabiliser" in the
- control menu ??
-
- Anyone?
-

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 06:13 PM
fluke39 wrote:
- is there a key assigned by default to the "level
- stabiliser" - or do we need to assign a key - if so
- is it actually called "level stabiliser" in the
- control menu ??
-
- Anyone?
-
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- src=http://mysite.freeserve.com/Angel_one_five/flu
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You need to assign a key to "level stabilizer." Look near the rudder controls. It's buried in there.

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