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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 03:06 AM
Just curiouse ?? Is the Prop Ptch moddled right for this bird seems there is little or no differance between 100 or 80 Prop Pitch ??? I can tell a huge differance in the Dora v the 190s shouldnt they be simular ?

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 03:06 AM
Just curiouse ?? Is the Prop Ptch moddled right for this bird seems there is little or no differance between 100 or 80 Prop Pitch ??? I can tell a huge differance in the Dora v the 190s shouldnt they be simular ?

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 03:08 AM
CEM in FB is incomplete according to oleg. As for the Fw 190A/F prop pitch, it is constant speed prop, when you change the so called pitch all you are doing is changing maximum RPM's.

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 04:19 AM
LMBO....

I like your Hurricane Story & I hate thoes Infernal ac as well....

Hmm So does the Dora have this Constant speed Prop ?

It must not ?

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 05:08 AM
Yes, but it has the provision for maneul control as well. Unfortunatly the auto mode is messed up. It causes the D9's to constantly over rev at anything over 103% and the result is a reduction in top speed. For example, the D9 late has a top speed at sea level of 603 km/h TAS with 110% + boost, radiator closed and auto prop pitch. Under the same conditions it reaches 634 km/h at 103% + boost. The D9 early has the same problem, but not as bad. With manuel pitch control you could probebly make them go faster, but I'm too lazy to try that.

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XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 06:45 AM
The FB FW190A(F) series does use a Constant Speed Prop, just like a P47 or La5fn. This is historically correct, But the FW190 Kommandergerat system is not modeled (at least not fully, auto fuel mixture for example is correctly modeled). This system was fairly unique in that it controlled prop pitch, manifold pressure, fuel mixture and spark advance all from one lever (through a complex series of hydraulic and physical linkages). The '1 lever control' of historic FW190's is not modeled in FB 190's.

XyZspineZyX
06-27-2003, 02:48 PM
Manual P.P. does give you a little more top speed in d9,and also helps reduce that maddening delay when working the throttle back and forth,I think Manual p.p. is a must as things are now,Im sure that a working auto would have a very similar effect,hopefully the patch will get it working.

XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 07:50 PM
Undoubtedly you must use Manual PP in the Dora 44

But how about the A9 A8 A5 Are we supposed to use manual PP for this ac is there any advantage ?

Ive tested it & its very hard for me too tell

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Message Edited on 07/06/0302:00AM by Locust_161st

XyZspineZyX
06-28-2003, 09:49 PM
Turn fighting a Yak 3 is a bad idea, but it seems to be able to stick with the Yak-9's and La-7's fairly well at 350-450 km/h. You will eventually loose do to energy bleed, but you can dive away and extend at will.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 09:06 AM
Off topic but why are the gunz so week ?

This was a bomber Interceptor Correct ?

Yesterday I got a yak real good He musta Had over 100 Holes off all sizes But he never died in the air

Eventualy he ran out of fuel & crashed on his way home but for a bomber interceptor this thing should have some power not this toothpics /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 09:43 AM
All guns under 37mm are currently screwed up according to Oleg. That is one of the things at the top of the list for things that need patching.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 12:09 PM
there is no such thing as manual pitch control in a plane with CSP, all you can adjust is RPM, the pitch itself cannot be directly controlled.