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Bearcat99
02-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Or if you just want to try something that may allow you to combine all your sticks on one interface.

Total Game Control v 3.5 (http://www.digitaltransforms.com/index.html)

Pinnacle Game Controller 4.0 (http://www.download3k.com/Games/Tools-Editors/Download-Pinnacle-Game-Profiler.html)

I have not tried them yet.. but the write ups read very well and sound promising. As soon as I install my XP-64, which I bought last year when I went 64 bit, but I decided to go back to XP-32 because I couldn't get my MSFFB2 profiler to work in it... and I depend on that profiler, I will try both demos. Once I reinstall 64 I will try this.. but if anyone has the same issue and is running Vista or XP-64 try this and see....
There is a free trial download.

Thanks to Swivet & bolox00 for finding these programs in this thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2511056336) there.

Bearcat99
02-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Wow.... I cannot believe that with 85 views there has not been one response .... is there ANYONE with a MS joystick and Vista/XP-64 that wants to create a profile on their stick? I know there are several MS users out here... Maybe I worded this thread wrong.

Sokol__1
02-17-2008, 09:06 PM
BC,

I try Total Game Control and dont found advantages over freewares SVMapper or Joy To Key.
In Total Game Control certain keys are reserved for specific funtions. Ie: Insert, Home, Page Up... for things like Increase (CD) Volume, Refresh (web) Page...

I try too "axis as button generator", but dont find pratical use in IL2, try to control Misture and FOV ZOOM. The function dont allow "bands".

Pinacle Game Controler dont open in my PC.
His installation are more intrusive, need reboot after install.

Sokol1

bolox00
02-17-2008, 09:47 PM
agree with sokol that sv mapper is a better program, i linked total game control because it claims 64bit compatability. sokol can you confirm 64bit compatabilty for svmapper?

not too suprised at no response with less than 100 views http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif- original thread was at ~300 views when i replied- only just caught it myself having been away for a couple of weeks .
this is a fairly esoteric subject (however vital http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )- most people tend to read, maybe bookmark then look for the latest 'cheerleader' thread,- doubt it would have been any different in ww11 either http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

STENKA_69.GIAP
02-18-2008, 05:45 AM
In preparation for a future move to Vista I've been researching and testing installation of the 4.0 MSFFB 2 software with Vista - which I understood to be the prerequisite for functioning FFB (?).

So far no luck with install. One guy in a thread says he's done it by renaming a filename referenced in a .ini file correcting the case - but no explicit explanation and a broken link. Another guy that says he has the answer (which he says no one else will ever find) and that he'll tell me If I send him 11 Euros on paypal first... was I born yesterday?

From the number of frustration threads running I would guess that all this interests many but that answers are few.

It does seem annoying that there seem to be so many clever people around with time on their hands to make viruses, hacks, mods and other stuff that polute the online world BUT nobody that has solved how to move the use of a sidewinder beyond XP.

Ooops.... I said the forbidden words...

Interested in any positive results.

Bearcat99
02-18-2008, 10:43 PM
My main thing with this was that it is supposed to be 64 bit compatible.. is SV mapper compatible with XP-64? How about Joy to Key? Can you do bands with Joy to key?

tagTaken2
02-19-2008, 12:25 AM
It'd be great if Vista supported the MSFFB2 software, but a separate XP gaming partition is going to be the answer for some time. I only took off my Win98 partition in 2003.
Eventually all the MSFFB2s will die, and we'll all learn ways to deal with it.
In one way it amuses me... all the people who stockpiled 3 or 5 sidewinder sticks will most likely have trouble using them in another 5 years.

Bearcat99
02-19-2008, 09:28 PM
Well here is my update. Out of the two I prefer the Pinnacle. Considering that they are both the same price.. the pinnacle is more to my liking. The GUI is nice.. you can even import a picture of your stick if it is not on the list. As of right now I have managed to get the same functions that I had on my MSFFB2 in XP on XP-64. Now I have a combo setup with a modified X-45 , Saitek pedals, and the MS stick is my flight stick.. but I had a macros on there to set my RCU .... and I also had some functions like F1, F2, F3 on the hat switch that I would use in conjunction with the SHIFT & CTRL functions. It works very well. I am not sure if I can band the rudder axis yet like you can with the Saitek SST or the CH software .. I haven't tried it but it loooks like you can using the edit axis feature. I see where you can break an axis up into zones.. from 2 to about 7 or so.. and it looks remarkjably like a banded axis to me. There are assignmetn windows for commands.. the rudder pot on my 7 year old MSFFB 2 is kindof spikey so I will pass on that.. but it looks like it does work. My initial impression of the software is very good.. it is versatile.. it just takes a bit of patence.. IMO it is more than worth the $19 purchase price.


Originally posted by tagTaken2:
It'd be great if Vista supported the MSFFB2 software, but a separate XP gaming partition is going to be the answer for some time. I only took off my Win98 partition in 2003.
Eventually all the MSFFB2s will die, and we'll all learn ways to deal with it.
In one way it amuses me... all the people who stockpiled 3 or 5 sidewinder sticks will most likely have trouble using them in another 5 years.

Die they will... but not for a while.... since this software works in Vista & XP-64 anyone with a MS joystick of any kind, or any other brand for that matter can now profile it with at the very least the same level of functionality that they got from the original MS software. In fact.. I would recommend this software to anyone who owns a MS stick regardless to the OS they are running... that way when ever they do upgrade they will already be familiar with it.

Bearcat99
02-26-2008, 05:35 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Especially after
This thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/2421050504?r=1171050504#1171050504) and
this thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/1021043504?r=9451017504#9451017504)

ASM 1
02-28-2008, 07:33 AM
.. the rudder pot on my 7 year old MSFFB 2 is kindof spikey so I will pass on that.. but it looks like it does work. My initial impression of the software is very good


OoOoOoO... have downloaded the pinnacle software, am on vista x64.. now I have to find my FFB2 and 1946 DVD lol. I even have a Saitek X45 that I stole from a friend, is it possible to tie that in as well ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
02-28-2008, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by ASM 1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">.. the rudder pot on my 7 year old MSFFB 2 is kindof spikey so I will pass on that.. but it looks like it does work. My initial impression of the software is very good


OoOoOoO... have downloaded the pinnacle software, am on vista x64.. now I have to find my FFB2 and 1946 DVD lol. I even have a Saitek X45 that I stole from a friend, is it possible to tie that in as well ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://star.walagata.com/w/bearcat/100_2686_0.JPG
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif Best of all worlds IMO... and outstanding FFB HOTAS with rudder pedals... & TIR.
Saitek has pretty good XP-64/Vista profiling software.. but I am certain you can tie the pinnacle in with the X-45.... It will definitely show up in te game controller menu... Pinnacle is the bee's knees man...... it is actually better than the original MSFFB software and does everything the Saitek software does.. in fact it is probably more versatile because it seems the new Saitek software locks certain keys in a s switches.. where as I dont thin the Pinnacle will.... I will have to actually try a X-45 setup in Pinnacle as well.. but for now I just use it for my MSFFB2.

ASM 1
02-28-2008, 06:41 PM
Woot! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif Only thing I have noticed on the X45, the Joystick is USB but the throttle has some sort of serial port which plugs in to the side of the stick... I take it that means I will have to chain the lot up ? or will the serial type doofrey plug in to a gameport (not sure if my board has one, will check)

*Runs for his 1946 DVD*

Sorry, I'm dragging this OT but I really want an excuse to start playing again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bearcat99
02-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Nah the throttle has to plug into the stick...

ASM 1
02-29-2008, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Nah the throttle has to plug into the stick...
Good cos I can't find my gameport PCI slot backplane thing for my mobo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Bearcat99
04-03-2008, 08:13 AM
After much more in depth testing I have another update.

While the Pinnacle SW is good... it has a GUI which I like and it is a bit more versatile than the TGC but it is also very resource hungry when compared to the TGC. See the shot below.

http://star.walagata.com/w/bearcat/profiles.jpg

I have found that if you want a very complicated profile then the Pinnacle is the way to go, but if all you want to do is profile your MSFFB2 stick in a 64 bit system.. the TGC is a much better though less pretty program.

Sintubin
04-03-2008, 02:59 PM
@Bearcat I have

I have a microsoft FFB2+saitek X52 trothle, Track-ir track-clip pro and rudder pedals pro from saitek also

My op system is vista and xp

i want the nice FFB in vista also

wich one software should i download please

because you posted two links

And my english is very poor , so its hard for me to understand it

i diden play Il-2 because i could not use the FFb control in Vista (((

and i realy want to get back in the cocpit again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

thx

Monterey13
04-03-2008, 03:21 PM
Geez Bearcat! I have about a third of the processes running that you do. What a list!

Bearcat99
04-04-2008, 07:29 AM
Yeah I have to tweak that...

Bearcat99
04-04-2008, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Sintubin:
@Bearcat I have I have a microsoft FFB2+saitek X52 trothle, track-ir track-clip pro and rudder pedals pro from saitek also

My op system is vista and xp
i want the nice FFB in vista also
wich one software should i download please
because you posted two links
And my english is very poor , so its hard for me to understand it
i diden play Il-2 because i could not use the FFb control in Vista (((
and i realy want to get back in the cocpit again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
thx

I dont think the TGC has FFB.. but the Pinnacle does.... I use FFB in the sim but I only use the stick forces.. not the gunshake...

Bewolf
04-04-2008, 08:02 AM
Very neat! Just what I was looking for for my 64 bit System. Gotta say so, XP 64 is a dead horse. Never had that many driver problems then with this SOB. Vista 64 works much better for me in this regard.

WTE_Galway
07-29-2008, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Bewolf:
Very neat! Just what I was looking for for my 64 bit System. Gotta say so, XP 64 is a dead horse. Never had that many driver problems then with this SOB. Vista 64 works much better for me in this regard.

One would think MS could at least support one of their own products in Vista.

I agree about XP 64 versus Vista 64. XP 64 was dreadful we wasted weeks trying to get it to function on one of our DTP machines with professional scanners, drawing tablets etc and it even had trouble with some very common design software. The MS support suggestion was either complain to the manufacturer and if that fails replace over $5000 worth of perfectly good equipment.

Despite the obvious issues with Vista ... Vista 64 > XP 64

STENKA_69.GIAP
12-05-2008, 04:02 AM
I have been testing out my MS FF2 on Vista 64.

The driver self installs OK.

With FF switched off in input section stick works OK but of course no FF.

With FF switched on FF works for effects but stick has vertualy no centering effect and wallows around like an old woman.

Effectively am left with no way of adjusting centering force or effects force.

Have downloaded and am testing Pinnacle software to see if it can control centering force. For the moment I can't find any way of doing so.

Can anyone confirm if Pinnacle can adjust centering force?

Bearcat99
12-06-2008, 01:30 PM
If you turn off FFB in the sim you will get the stick forces back. I noticed that even on XP with the original MS SW.. when you wnidow or AT out of the sim you loose your stick forces... That is why I turn FFB off in the sim. Basically it came down to a choice between stick forces and the FFB bells & whistles (gunshake etc... ) and for me it was a no brainer.

I just needed something to set up a profile for key settings & macros on my MS stick.. so thats why I needed some kind of profiling SW that would work in XP64.

Codex1971
12-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
One would think MS could at least support one of their own products in Vista.

The problem there is that MS discontinued support for their sticks years ago, but I think they failed to realise just how good the FFB & FFB2 was for flight sims in general.

FA_Kook
12-23-2008, 02:46 PM
Has anybody found a way to the adjust ffb force and return to zero tension with XP or Vista?

Bearcat99
12-23-2008, 03:14 PM
I thionk the Pinnacle sw had FFB support..

Sokol__1
11-17-2009, 02:51 PM
Xpadder

[quote]
- Rumble (force feedback) and advanced fine-tuning options[/quote.

http://xpadder.com/index.html

Sokol1

DD_crash
06-17-2010, 08:06 AM
Sorry to raise a dead thread, but I need to know if FFB works with Win7 using Pinnacle. My Logi 940FFB has just died but I have a Guillemot that I would like to fit with a X52 handle. I think the guillemot uses the same FFB as the sidewinder. Any ideas if it is do-able?

Bearcat99
06-19-2010, 06:45 AM
I thionk it worked with Vista sh it should work with Windows 7..